aces2412

I have a 09 TL advanced and just started looking. This may have been discussed but has anyone driven or compared the new Camry XSE to the TLX A-SPEC. Its sad to put these two in comparison but wow they look alike and the V6 in the XSE has more horses. Just asking, Thanks

jhb31

I know zero about the new Camry but the two cars I never want to be behind are a Camry or a Honda Odyssey. I will stereo type here and say they are hell to be behind 90% of the time. I know they can go faster but generally the drivers of those cars are brutal to be behind.

aces2412

I get it I never in a 1000 years would think about the Camry but the white with the black top is nice. Birds eye view camera etc heads up display... I just need to drive it to put it out from my choices.

ggesq

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I've driven both recently.....the Camry was very boring. Have you also considered the new 18 Accord? They should be hitting showrooms soon.

GhostTL09

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There is no 09' Advance TL

GhostTL09

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Also the Camry rides like a Camry so I wouldn't worry too much about a HP number. The TLX is going to give you an overall better ride quality. You just have to drive what you like and buy.

aces2412

Ha your correct. I have the MDX Advance. My TL is a Tech. That was embarrassing.

slimm1469

GhostTL09 is right, test-drive -- and not a 20-minute around-the-block -- and then choose. Personally, there are two cars I'd never buy, Camry and a Buick.

SebringSilver

Since you already have an MDX, get something fun to drive instead. Forget the Camry and get a Cayman GT4, or a Morgan 3-wheeler.

kurtatx

Come to Audi. We have candy.

aces2412

Audi..... my parents had 5000 back in the day. Lemon!. I would go BMW if not Acura.

pyrodan007

You complain about Audi yet BMW is your number two. Audi is tops in the reliability lists, far above BMW nowadays. Not saying they're bullet proof, but not like they used to be ... same like Acura.

GhostTL09

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I feel like even though reliability may be better, overall cost of maintenance is still expensive. How much are oil changes, transmission fluid changes, power steering fluid change, brake jobs, new shocks etc? That is where my pockets run short. Perhaps for many even if the car is "bulletproof" you're still getting shot in the wallet by basic maintenance. I could be wrong

BEAR-AvHistory

Maintenance is baked into the price (no free lunch) for 3/4 years & 50K miles. Only thing you pay for is tires, I use Tire Rack.Years on them have changed to 3 from 4. After that anyone who can't do their own work would be smart to use a BMW/AUDI independent specialist or an extended wattanty.

I ran one car, 2004 330CI ZHP 6MT, for 10 years. My total out of pocket excluding tires was under $1500. So far since 2004 outside of tires that is my only out of pocket expense on the German cars.

Flipster23

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Q Fiddy.

GS 3 Fiddy F-sport

aces2412

I was scared as a kid with my father dealing with the worst car we ever owned. Audi 5000. Junk! Then we had a BMW lease, father passed away and BMW wrote off the over milage and allowed us to turn it back in, with nothing owed. Thats why BMW is my #1 or #2.

Saintor

The ES is the real competitor to the TLX. Yet it may evolve in an upper category according to sine rumors. Due as a 2019 model.

The 2018 Accord might come as a surprise, probably next month. But 2.0Toy.

BEAR-AvHistory

Was just looking through the Lightning Laps edition of C&D saw a very interesting Camry add. Tag line was "this car does not come in beige". Looks like the image change is starting a Toyota.

kurtatx

You base your opinion of a brand based on a 25 year old car model? I guess this is an Acura board, so that makes sense.
Can't wait to see your next old, anemic 6 cylinder engine.

TacoBello

I'm going to have to stop you right there. How does a car built near 30 years ago have anything to do with today?


Acura reliability isn't what it used to be.

You're also doing yourself a disservice not even going in and sitting in, or driving an Audi.

Saintor

For sure it won't be an overrated 2.0Toy like yours.

kurtatx

The Audi A4 is rated 0-60 by Audi as 5.7 with the quattro AWD system. Nearly every reviewer, for example MotorTrend, got to 60 in 5.5 or less.

So, by definition, the A4 engine is underrated.

That pretty much sold me. The second you sit in it you feel like you're in something special.

SebringSilver

There's definitely something special going on at Audi these days.

I very recently picked up a 2018 Mk3 TTS which has the 2.0T. It's rated at 292 hp and does 0-60 in the low 4s. It's a very nice daily driver. The seats are unbelievable and the Virtual Cockpit is very slick indeed. But the coolest thing, literally, has to be the A/C controls which are built right into the vents themselves. The salesman actually convinced me not to get yet another R8 and give the TTS a try. So far, I'm loving it. Will still get an R8 later though, as I'll most likely give the TTS to my son when he gets his license next year.

hadokenuh

Slightly off topic, but what do you do for living? I mean, upgrade to an R8 and give the TTS to your son and I heard the cars cost more in Canada than in the US. Can you adopt me? LOL.

I too start to like Audi cars but the because of the whole VW and their reliability, I am still sitting on the sideline watching

Saintor

That sub-par engine makes the car sound like a fre*king Civic. It fits as much in a $45-50K car than Trump as a President. Yeah, this worse.

TacoBello

says the guy driving the crappiest car ever, with the crappiest transmission ever

complain about that engine noise. it's all you have! Don't choke too hard on the exhaust fumes of everyone passing your appliance vehicle

Saintor

Bipolar reply..

ggesq

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And we are done.