Waiting to kiss before marriage
06-15-2008, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
How can any of that be relative here when the OP has not so much as kissed a woman?
Originally Posted by darksom1
Separate the jokes and the attacks from both sides, and you still get a guy afraid of intimacy, and all that entails. People whose actions are fostered by religious beliefs, don't foresee possibly overcoming the "problem" down the road. It is no problem. It is a way of life to them. The OP has said that if he dates more, then he will possibly overcome his objection to kissing. That is not borne of religion, but of angst and lack of nerve.
Originally Posted by darksom1
No 1Louder, I am stunned that you don't see that. Perhaps if you had not assumed the role of supporter so quickly because of religious piety, then you might have been able to forego the usual "humor" demonstrated here, and been able to see the situation for what it is yourself: Just a sheltered guy with a misunderstanding of the birds and the bees because he hasn't hunted much. You give his "urges" too much credit. Take another look.
06-15-2008, 11:28 PM
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Do you mind me asking where you go to school? I notice you are from IN and was wondering if you were from one of the ultra-conservative universities located there...
Secondly, you have realized by now that hardly anyone is able to take you seriously. You are asking a question about something which i am sure 99.98% of people in America would never consider.
Here's a forum i found on Google where you will probably get much more sincere answers from people of your type....
http://christianforums.com/archive/i...t-4582299.html
Secondly, you have realized by now that hardly anyone is able to take you seriously. You are asking a question about something which i am sure 99.98% of people in America would never consider.
Here's a forum i found on Google where you will probably get much more sincere answers from people of your type....
http://christianforums.com/archive/i...t-4582299.html
06-16-2008, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Louder
Maybe for the OP getting to first base is the equivalent. I'm not proposing addiction is the issue here, but it's a line he's drawn and does not want to cross it. Fairly simple - everyone does it. I imagine you have your lines too... :wink:
As for me...no comment. Haha!
06-16-2008, 04:53 AM
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Gay. Period.
06-16-2008, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1Louder
So if the OP were an alcholoic talking about not drinking at all, I suspect everyone would be supportive. What bothers me is that because it's related to sex, all of a sudden he's repressed, gay, has issues, whatever. It's both devaluing the standard the OP has chosen, and also critized the manner in which he'll achieve it.
The problem with your analogy is if an alcoholic stops drinking alcohol, people understand, because it's a normal reaction. If you take it wayyyy out of proportion as in the case with the OP's worries about kissing, people are not going to understand.
What the OP is doing is the equivilant of saying "I am an alcoholic so I have decided to give up drinking liquids altogether. I will now only take liquid through an IV daily" So most people would think thats nuts and suggest non alcoholic drinks or water. If the person responds with "water and other non-alcoholic drinks can be mixed with alcohol so I am afraid that I will not have enough self control to drink anything without putting alcohol in it." Most people are going to reasonably suggest there may be some mental health issues going on here and that the person might want to look into professional help.
06-16-2008, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by TzarChasm
What the OP is doing is the equivilant of saying "I am an alcoholic so I have decided to give up drinking liquids altogether. I will now only take liquid through an IV daily"
06-16-2008, 10:53 AM
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I just don't see how one could think they have so much game and such a magic hand that once they start kissing someone the panties automatically drop and you're "up in dem guts" 5 min later! I wish it was that easy!! It takes a lot of game/effort to go from kissing to home plate.
I don't think the OP ever mentioned...have you ever kissed a girl? Tried it and decided to wait? or don't want to try it? I think that can help us get a better idea of what's going on here.
I don't think the OP ever mentioned...have you ever kissed a girl? Tried it and decided to wait? or don't want to try it? I think that can help us get a better idea of what's going on here.
06-16-2008, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike 350Z
I just don't see how one could think they have so much game and such a magic hand that once they start kissing someone the panties automatically drop and you're "up in dem guts" 5 min later! I wish it was that easy!! It takes a lot of game/effort to go from kissing to home plate.
I don't think the OP ever mentioned...have you ever kissed a girl? Tried it and decided to wait? or don't want to try it? I think that can help us get a better idea of what's going on here.
I don't think the OP ever mentioned...have you ever kissed a girl? Tried it and decided to wait? or don't want to try it? I think that can help us get a better idea of what's going on here.
But as far as him thinking that just because he gets all hot and bothered that means the panties go down...consider the source! You can be playa playa in your mind all you want, but stepping up to home plate will be a reality check for him...if he ever gets there!
06-16-2008, 11:32 AM
#213
Originally Posted by Mike 350Z
I just don't see how one could think they have so much game and such a magic hand that once they start kissing someone the panties automatically drop and you're "up in dem guts" 5 min later! I wish it was that easy!!
(and a very slutty girl
)
06-16-2008, 01:07 PM
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Great. Now he's loose.
Hmmmm....I kissed my first boy in second grade, my first girl in third....and look how well I turned out! hahahahahahahah
This is soo f'in funny!
This is soo f'in funny!
06-16-2008, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gypsygirl
Hmmmm....I kissed my first boy in second grade, my first girl in third....and look how well I turned out! hahahahahahahah
This is soo f'in funny!
This is soo f'in funny!
I wonder, at this rate, how long it would take the OP to get his dick sucked? I also wonder if he will only kiss a girl that has never been kissed before? Because if not, then he is kissing her and all of the guys she kissed...This has 40-yr old virgin written all over it...
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06-16-2008, 08:11 PM
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I think I have another theory about this. Are you just one of those really shy kids? If you are thats okay a lot of kids are. Is it just now that since you have never been with a girl you feel like your behind and this would be easier? A lot of people just arent good with other people but dont feel like your so far behind that its too late to start now. Pratice makes perfect.
06-16-2008, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
What the fuck does that mean?? Nobody better not figure that out before me!
06-16-2008, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
It's a reference to the home-schooled social retard that won the national spelling bee a year ago.
ROFLMAO!!! Does this mean I'm stupid as fuck?????
Ok, I give...what is it Mike? LOL!
06-16-2008, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
Is it "Bam I scored"??
ROFLMAO!!! Does this mean I'm stupid as fuck?????
Ok, I give...what is it Mike? LOL!
ROFLMAO!!! Does this mean I'm stupid as fuck?????
Ok, I give...what is it Mike? LOL!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...K2yf2oDw&hl=en
06-16-2008, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
06-16-2008, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
I found it painful to watch. Only saw like 2 minute in...
06-16-2008, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
This poor kid. This what happens when home school goes wrong...
06-17-2008, 08:41 AM
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Have you guys noticed that the similar threads to this one, indicated at the bottom of this page, most of them are about gay marriages? Hahahaha!
How's that for a conclusion?
How's that for a conclusion?
06-17-2008, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by darksom1
Have you guys noticed that the similar threads to this one, indicated at the bottom of this page, most of them are about gay marriages? Hahahaha!
How's that for a conclusion?
How's that for a conclusion?
Those threads are deemed similar by the software because of the aspersions of latent homosexuality cast herein upon the OP.
06-17-2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by svtmike
It is.... illogical.
Those threads are deemed similar by the software because of the aspersions of latent homosexuality cast herein upon the OP.
Those threads are deemed similar by the software because of the aspersions of latent homosexuality cast herein upon the OP.
06-17-2008, 11:43 AM
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I don't think i have ever really posted in the rambling sections before except for the fitness section but i just wanted to say something to the OP if he is still reading this.
I am a fellow Christian as well and i just want to tell you that you are looking in the completely wrong place for views on this subject. You need to understand that a high % of the people on this forum are never going to view this subject as you do for obvious reasons. I honestly do not know why you would post this question in a forum such as this because you HAVE to know what the responses would be. I do however commend you for making this decision and sticking to it. I, as a fellow believer, understand where your coming from but i have chosen not to follow this particular "kissing" path. I come from a huge church and i honestly can't say that i have met any girl that would not be ok with you having kissed a lot of girls before....having slept with a lot of girls is a different story.
There is a lot of other things i could say to elaborate on this subject but this is honestly not the place for it as you can see by the responses. Either way, good luck and just keep praying about it.
I am a fellow Christian as well and i just want to tell you that you are looking in the completely wrong place for views on this subject. You need to understand that a high % of the people on this forum are never going to view this subject as you do for obvious reasons. I honestly do not know why you would post this question in a forum such as this because you HAVE to know what the responses would be. I do however commend you for making this decision and sticking to it. I, as a fellow believer, understand where your coming from but i have chosen not to follow this particular "kissing" path. I come from a huge church and i honestly can't say that i have met any girl that would not be ok with you having kissed a lot of girls before....having slept with a lot of girls is a different story.
There is a lot of other things i could say to elaborate on this subject but this is honestly not the place for it as you can see by the responses. Either way, good luck and just keep praying about it.
06-17-2008, 04:51 PM
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Great. Now he's loose.
Originally Posted by darksom1
Hmm...my kind of girl...my kind of girl indeed!
I wonder, at this rate, how long it would take the OP to get his dick sucked? I also wonder if he will only kiss a girl that has never been kissed before? Because if not, then he is kissing her and all of the guys she kissed...This has 40-yr old virgin written all over it...
I wonder, at this rate, how long it would take the OP to get his dick sucked? I also wonder if he will only kiss a girl that has never been kissed before? Because if not, then he is kissing her and all of the guys she kissed...This has 40-yr old virgin written all over it...
It seems to me that most people that I know had their first kiss when they were pretty little, just for the butterfly affect if nothing else. Hell they even show pictures of that on Hallmark cards.
I wonder what kept him from receiving that little piece of childhood? He couldn't have made this "mature" decision at the age of a child, could he?
06-17-2008, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gypsygirl
I wonder what kept him from receiving that little piece of childhood? He couldn't have made this "mature" decision at the age of a child, could he?
06-18-2008, 10:00 AM
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and let me know when you get an answer.
06-18-2008, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TonysTSeX
Kabota....
It is such a pleasure to hear from a young man.. who shows such character and integrity in his youth..
Always remember one thing bro...
"...The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. For through me your days will be many, and years will be added to your life.." -Proverbs 9:10-11
Keeping yourself until marriage is a thing to be honored in you young man.. don't let anyone tell you different. I hear a measure of wisdom in you that I don't hear in many guys your age. Most guys are out "living it up".. and having sex with the first girl who gives them an opportunity. Which, sadly, is many girls these days. What these guys don't understand is that this trains them to go from one partner to the next. If you get tired of one.. its ok.. no commitment.. just move on to the next! This is a very selfish life. What honor is there in that? What integrity is a man showing by living in such a way? It's taking without giving back.. or any commitment. What they don't realize is.. when they marry, they remember this pattern and how carefree it was...and many cheat on their wives because of this. Is this the kind of lifestyle that you can honestly say that you can look back on and be proud of? More importantly, is this the kind of life that you as a Christian man.. wants to lead? When you wait for that one woman that God will send into your life.. it teaches you to learn patience, self-control, commitment, sacrifice and selflessness. All qualities of a real man. I'll tell you what most men these days don't hear to often. Integrity and Honor and Responsibility are values to strive for. Kabota..God has called you out of this worldliness.. and has called you to live a life for His good pleasure. In Him, you will find an abundant life.. a life worth more than living according to your sexual desires or your every whim. In Christ... you are a 'new creation' and its only in Him that you will find true life!
You don't want to kiss cause it might lead to something else, right? Your concern is a healthy concern. We all know that passionate kissing in many cases, leads to touching, which can lead to petting.. which can lead to many things I won't mention. But, As long as you keep God first in your life... you will do fine. If your young, you should date in groups.. (its about keeping yourself from temptation.. thats a good thing!). You want a wife? Keep asking God to make you into the man that He wants you to be (not just for you..but for the benefit of your future wife/family).. pray to your Father in heaven who hears you and in His time.. He will Bless you. Remember, the bible says that it is a wise man who keeps his way.. and pursues righteousness.
It is such a pleasure to hear from a young man.. who shows such character and integrity in his youth..
Always remember one thing bro...
"...The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom, and knowledge of the Holy One is understanding. For through me your days will be many, and years will be added to your life.." -Proverbs 9:10-11
Keeping yourself until marriage is a thing to be honored in you young man.. don't let anyone tell you different. I hear a measure of wisdom in you that I don't hear in many guys your age. Most guys are out "living it up".. and having sex with the first girl who gives them an opportunity. Which, sadly, is many girls these days. What these guys don't understand is that this trains them to go from one partner to the next. If you get tired of one.. its ok.. no commitment.. just move on to the next! This is a very selfish life. What honor is there in that? What integrity is a man showing by living in such a way? It's taking without giving back.. or any commitment. What they don't realize is.. when they marry, they remember this pattern and how carefree it was...and many cheat on their wives because of this. Is this the kind of lifestyle that you can honestly say that you can look back on and be proud of? More importantly, is this the kind of life that you as a Christian man.. wants to lead? When you wait for that one woman that God will send into your life.. it teaches you to learn patience, self-control, commitment, sacrifice and selflessness. All qualities of a real man. I'll tell you what most men these days don't hear to often. Integrity and Honor and Responsibility are values to strive for. Kabota..God has called you out of this worldliness.. and has called you to live a life for His good pleasure. In Him, you will find an abundant life.. a life worth more than living according to your sexual desires or your every whim. In Christ... you are a 'new creation' and its only in Him that you will find true life!
You don't want to kiss cause it might lead to something else, right? Your concern is a healthy concern. We all know that passionate kissing in many cases, leads to touching, which can lead to petting.. which can lead to many things I won't mention. But, As long as you keep God first in your life... you will do fine. If your young, you should date in groups.. (its about keeping yourself from temptation.. thats a good thing!). You want a wife? Keep asking God to make you into the man that He wants you to be (not just for you..but for the benefit of your future wife/family).. pray to your Father in heaven who hears you and in His time.. He will Bless you. Remember, the bible says that it is a wise man who keeps his way.. and pursues righteousness.
You have absolutely no right to be judging anyone. If you want to quote the bible, why not quote the rest of it, even if it's not conducive to your argument? Like Matthew 7:1: "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Guess what partner, you just fucked up. Is it fire and brimstone for you?
I had 13 "partners" before I met my wife. She had 6. We spent 7 months kissing and fooling around before we had sex. 7 months. Yeah, that's kind of a long time in most people's eyes these days, but that's what it was. We were both very good at our roles by then. We matched up sexually, but we had 7 months to match up emotionally as well. Now we're married, done in a Church with my FATHER marrying us (he's a DEACON) and we have a 2 year old son, baptized.
I haven't strayed from my wife, and she hasn't strayed from me. My life before her and her life before me doesn't make a fucking pattern. We met people we liked, we met people we loved, we gave ourselves to the others. Our relationship is probably BETTER as a result of that, not worse. Sampling what we know of other people gives us a better understanding of what we wanted in each other. Our 5th anniversary is this July.
Don't stand on your fucking high horse and preach to us about intolerance or not judging anyone who lives a different lifestyle than you do because at the same time, you're doing it to everyone else. Honor and integrity my ass. You need to look up those words and do the one fucking thing most Christians I know can't do: look in a fucking mirror. Your arrogance absolutely astounds me.
06-18-2008, 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete1burn
You are an arrogant, pompous son of a bitch. You are judging every single male out there who has had sex with multiple partners before marriage, and then going a few LEAPS forward and stating that any guy who does it has no honor and no integrity. And it's selfish? Hey, every woman I've been with has been more than happy with what I gave her, and never accused me of being selfish.
You have absolutely no right to be judging anyone. If you want to quote the bible, why not quote the rest of it, even if it's not conducive to your argument? Like Matthew 7:1: "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Guess what partner, you just fucked up. Is it fire and brimstone for you?
I had 13 "partners" before I met my wife. She had 6. We spent 7 months kissing and fooling around before we had sex. 7 months. Yeah, that's kind of a long time in most people's eyes these days, but that's what it was. We were both very good at our roles by then. We matched up sexually, but we had 7 months to match up emotionally as well. Now we're married, done in a Church with my FATHER marrying us (he's a DEACON) and we have a 2 year old son, baptized.
I haven't strayed from my wife, and she hasn't strayed from me. My life before her and her life before me doesn't make a fucking pattern. We met people we liked, we met people we loved, we gave ourselves to the others. Our relationship is probably BETTER as a result of that, not worse. Sampling what we know of other people gives us a better understanding of what we wanted in each other. Our 5th anniversary is this July.
Don't stand on your fucking high horse and preach to us about intolerance or not judging anyone who lives a different lifestyle than you do because at the same time, you're doing it to everyone else. Honor and integrity my ass. You need to look up those words and do the one fucking thing most Christians I know can't do: look in a fucking mirror. Your arrogance absolutely astounds me.
You have absolutely no right to be judging anyone. If you want to quote the bible, why not quote the rest of it, even if it's not conducive to your argument? Like Matthew 7:1: "Judge not, that ye be not judged." Guess what partner, you just fucked up. Is it fire and brimstone for you?
I had 13 "partners" before I met my wife. She had 6. We spent 7 months kissing and fooling around before we had sex. 7 months. Yeah, that's kind of a long time in most people's eyes these days, but that's what it was. We were both very good at our roles by then. We matched up sexually, but we had 7 months to match up emotionally as well. Now we're married, done in a Church with my FATHER marrying us (he's a DEACON) and we have a 2 year old son, baptized.
I haven't strayed from my wife, and she hasn't strayed from me. My life before her and her life before me doesn't make a fucking pattern. We met people we liked, we met people we loved, we gave ourselves to the others. Our relationship is probably BETTER as a result of that, not worse. Sampling what we know of other people gives us a better understanding of what we wanted in each other. Our 5th anniversary is this July.
Don't stand on your fucking high horse and preach to us about intolerance or not judging anyone who lives a different lifestyle than you do because at the same time, you're doing it to everyone else. Honor and integrity my ass. You need to look up those words and do the one fucking thing most Christians I know can't do: look in a fucking mirror. Your arrogance absolutely astounds me.
I'm surprised he didn't ask Kabota for a donation. LOL! maybe he PM'ed him about it!
06-18-2008, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete1burn
You are an arrogant, pompous son of a bitch....
I don't think "Tony" was aiming this at you or anyone else in the thread (at least I hope not) - advice for the OP given he said he was a Christian earlier. This clearly is NOT the place to be giving the OP advice from a religious context (probably not the right place to be asking this question to begin with).
...and I wish people with user names like TonysTSeX would not pound the Bible in their posts...
06-18-2008, 04:46 PM
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I still think the OP just got behind on this because of shyness and now is afraid of it and thinks this is an easy way out. He can do this but its going to be really hard to find a girl to go along with it.