360, PS3: Street Fighter IV **Character Trailer (page 2)**
03-23-2009, 03:52 PM
#201
Can you explain zoning to me? I'm tired of getting my ass kicked by little kids on live.
03-23-2009, 03:53 PM
#202
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Just got my X-Arcade Dual, and so far its great!
I ended up picking it up used from someone locally off Craigslist.
Build quality is excellent. I had to take it apart to adjust one of the microswitches on the 2nd player joystick, and looking around, the construction is excellent.
Besides that, here are some additional notes.
The two sets of controls are kind of close together. If anyone plans on getting this, I would recommend getting the Tankstick as it has 2 controls, plus a trackball. The trackball is in the middle, so spaces the 2 players apart more.
The "1-player" button is kind of close to the first player control buttons. It sometimes gets accidentally pressed while playing which pauses the game.
In order to activate the controller on the system (like pressing the PS button), you have to press the "Control" (on the side of the unit), plus the "1-Player" buttons. Luckily the guy selling me the controller told me this, otherwise I would have been scratching my head for awhile...
The default config is for the joystick to be the D-pad. When in this mode, I cannot hold the joystick to the left for more than a couple of seconds. The fix for this is to press the "control" button, and to press the Triangle button. This will switch the joystick to be the left analog stick. The joystick can also be the right analog stick by pressing Control + R1 by the way.
The X-Arcade CAN work on a 360, but you will need an adapter called the XFPS. I don't have a 360, so cannot confirm this, but here is more info on that if you want:
http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=987
I ended up picking it up used from someone locally off Craigslist.
Build quality is excellent. I had to take it apart to adjust one of the microswitches on the 2nd player joystick, and looking around, the construction is excellent.
Besides that, here are some additional notes.
The two sets of controls are kind of close together. If anyone plans on getting this, I would recommend getting the Tankstick as it has 2 controls, plus a trackball. The trackball is in the middle, so spaces the 2 players apart more.
The "1-player" button is kind of close to the first player control buttons. It sometimes gets accidentally pressed while playing which pauses the game.
In order to activate the controller on the system (like pressing the PS button), you have to press the "Control" (on the side of the unit), plus the "1-Player" buttons. Luckily the guy selling me the controller told me this, otherwise I would have been scratching my head for awhile...
The default config is for the joystick to be the D-pad. When in this mode, I cannot hold the joystick to the left for more than a couple of seconds. The fix for this is to press the "control" button, and to press the Triangle button. This will switch the joystick to be the left analog stick. The joystick can also be the right analog stick by pressing Control + R1 by the way.
The X-Arcade CAN work on a 360, but you will need an adapter called the XFPS. I don't have a 360, so cannot confirm this, but here is more info on that if you want:
http://www.ocmodshop.com/ocmodshop.aspx?a=987
03-23-2009, 03:58 PM
#203
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Knowing combos and how to chain them from normal punches/kicks is also important. Since SFIII, the old days of being able to sit back and fireball-dragonpunch-and-repeat are kinda over...
I dunno, for some people, this is referred to as being "cheap". But, in my opinion, fighting is fighting and all bets are off. As a courtesy, the only thing I do is allow for the opposition to throw me if I throw them...but, that is something I learned from playing alot of arcade many years ago and getting alot of angry people complaining about my throws (although, my argument is: if I were Zangief, am I supposed to back off on a piledriver?!?)...anyhow, I digress.
I'm sure really good players like rise et al posting in this thread can also add in some tips!
03-23-2009, 05:16 PM
#204
here's some tutorial videos on how to start thinking about SF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cFs5mHQC4
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...55004BDD1CF15A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0cFs5mHQC4
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...55004BDD1CF15A
No throws was a given back in the day. I have to put in some more time on this game. It's been a while.
03-24-2009, 10:10 AM
#207
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Back then, no throws, no cornering were the unofficial rules. It's different now...watch any of the SF professional players and they are all playing with corner trapping and other things once considered "cheap"...
03-24-2009, 12:46 PM
#208
throws can be countered. tick-throwing a big part of the game. otherwise your opponent can sit and block all your attacks all day.
check out the #1 xbox live player "haru tejyo" in SSF2THD play as zangief. every time he lands a light kick, he goes into SPD; the opponent only has 1 frame to escape (pretty much nothing he can do about it). Is this cheap or strategy? Is it cheap to play as Dhalsim and never let your opponent get close to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0sPVHL3JYQ
At least with SF IV I think the game is balanced well enough for there to be less of a 'cheap' argument. I'm on the fence about the SSF2THD 'cheap factor' though. The timing is so strict on that game that an average player vs high level player would have no chance and would feel he was being 'cheaped'.
check out the #1 xbox live player "haru tejyo" in SSF2THD play as zangief. every time he lands a light kick, he goes into SPD; the opponent only has 1 frame to escape (pretty much nothing he can do about it). Is this cheap or strategy? Is it cheap to play as Dhalsim and never let your opponent get close to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0sPVHL3JYQ
At least with SF IV I think the game is balanced well enough for there to be less of a 'cheap' argument. I'm on the fence about the SSF2THD 'cheap factor' though. The timing is so strict on that game that an average player vs high level player would have no chance and would feel he was being 'cheaped'.
03-24-2009, 12:50 PM
#209
Great info, thank you guys.
03-24-2009, 12:52 PM
#210
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throws can be countered. tick-throwing a big part of the game. otherwise your opponent can sit and block all your attacks all day.
check out the #1 xbox live player "haru tejyo" in SSF2THD play as zangief. every time he lands a light kick, he goes into SPD; the opponent only has 1 frame to escape (pretty much nothing he can do about it). Is this cheap or strategy? Is it cheap to play as Dhalsim and never let your opponent get close to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0sPVHL3JYQ
At least with SF IV I think the game is balanced well enough for there to be less of a 'cheap' argument. I'm on the fence about the SSF2THD 'cheap factor' though. The timing is so strict on that game that an average player vs high level player would have no chance and would feel he was being 'cheaped'.
check out the #1 xbox live player "haru tejyo" in SSF2THD play as zangief. every time he lands a light kick, he goes into SPD; the opponent only has 1 frame to escape (pretty much nothing he can do about it). Is this cheap or strategy? Is it cheap to play as Dhalsim and never let your opponent get close to you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0sPVHL3JYQ
At least with SF IV I think the game is balanced well enough for there to be less of a 'cheap' argument. I'm on the fence about the SSF2THD 'cheap factor' though. The timing is so strict on that game that an average player vs high level player would have no chance and would feel he was being 'cheaped'.
I only stopped throwing because #1, I didn't want to get beat up in the arcade by angry poor losers and #2, it's not worth it arguing a point that everyone seems to believe in.
And oh, I'm all for "corner trapping"...hell, that's how certain characters can win (i.e. Blanka, Fei Long)...Man, I need to buy this game.
03-24-2009, 03:25 PM
#211
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A couple things I noticed about throws in SF4 is that you now have to press Weak Punch and Weak Kick together in order to do the throw. This makes it alot less likely to do "accidental" throws.
The other thing is that throws are now very weak and don't take much energy from your opponent. Although it is visually appealing to see the throw, it is not very effective unless you are just trying to get your opponent away from you.
The other thing is that throws are now very weak and don't take much energy from your opponent. Although it is visually appealing to see the throw, it is not very effective unless you are just trying to get your opponent away from you.
03-24-2009, 03:54 PM
#213
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It'll likely be an April pick-up...and by then, hopefully the Mad Catz Fightpads are out.
03-24-2009, 05:07 PM
#214
ps3 fight pads seem to be in stock when I've been calling around my area.
03-24-2009, 05:19 PM
#215
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03-26-2009, 11:59 PM
#216
Safety Car
Finally unlocked Gouken! 
took me all damn night; had no problem with the 1 perfect, 3 ultra finishers, and 5 first hits, but bitch ass Seth kept making me start over. I hate that fucker! Fuck Capcom for putting this asshole in the game. 
The only reason I haven't bought the game yet is because of Seth.
BTW, this was done on the PS3 version, I gave up playing the 360 version because the standard controller sucks for it. To me the PS3 version plays much better.
took me all damn night; had no problem with the 1 perfect, 3 ultra finishers, and 5 first hits, but bitch ass Seth kept making me start over. I hate that fucker! Fuck Capcom for putting this asshole in the game. The only reason I haven't bought the game yet is because of Seth. BTW, this was done on the PS3 version, I gave up playing the 360 version because the standard controller sucks for it. To me the PS3 version plays much better.
03-27-2009, 12:53 AM
#217
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^ How's your thumb...? 
03-27-2009, 09:02 AM
#218
Suzuka Master
Finally unlocked Gouken! took me all damn night; had no problem with the 1 perfect, 3 ultra finishers, and 5 first hits, but bitch ass Seth kept making me start over. I hate that fucker! Fuck Capcom for putting this asshole in the game. The only reason I haven't bought the game yet is because of Seth.
BTW, this was done on the PS3 version, I gave up playing the 360 version because the standard controller sucks for it. To me the PS3 version plays much better.
took me all damn night; had no problem with the 1 perfect, 3 ultra finishers, and 5 first hits, but bitch ass Seth kept making me start over. I hate that fucker! Fuck Capcom for putting this asshole in the game. The only reason I haven't bought the game yet is because of Seth. BTW, this was done on the PS3 version, I gave up playing the 360 version because the standard controller sucks for it. To me the PS3 version plays much better.
03-27-2009, 12:13 PM
#219
Safety Car
03-27-2009, 12:20 PM
#220
Safety Car
03-27-2009, 12:26 PM
#221
I could handle playing fighters on the dualshock d-pads for a little bit but I could never pull off a 360 on a d-pad.
Analog stick on the xbox360 pad was good when I used it for SSF2THD
Analog stick on the xbox360 pad was good when I used it for SSF2THD
03-27-2009, 12:29 PM
#222
Safety Car
03-27-2009, 12:42 PM
#223
Safety Car
geez sorry for the multiple posts. im doing this on my phone and it seems its always screwing up somethin.
03-31-2009, 01:39 AM
#225
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
A couple things I noticed about throws in SF4 is that you now have to press Weak Punch and Weak Kick together in order to do the throw. This makes it alot less likely to do "accidental" throws.
The other thing is that throws are now very weak and don't take much energy from your opponent. Although it is visually appealing to see the throw, it is not very effective unless you are just trying to get your opponent away from you.
The other thing is that throws are now very weak and don't take much energy from your opponent. Although it is visually appealing to see the throw, it is not very effective unless you are just trying to get your opponent away from you.
03-31-2009, 01:41 AM
#226
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
I'm at 32 or so here, I haven't beaten the challenges yet, I'm at LVL20 on the Survival challenge on normal difficulty. One of the 360 achievements is to beat the game with every character on medium difficulty or higher, and I'm half way done with that.
How much BP(battle points) do you have btw?
How much BP(battle points) do you have btw?
03-31-2009, 01:42 AM
#227
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
03-31-2009, 03:46 PM
#228
I'm at 32 or so here, I haven't beaten the challenges yet, I'm at LVL20 on the Survival challenge on normal difficulty. One of the 360 achievements is to beat the game with every character on medium difficulty or higher, and I'm half way done with that.
How much BP(battle points) do you have btw?
How much BP(battle points) do you have btw?
03-31-2009, 09:12 PM
#231
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
04-02-2009, 12:06 AM
#232
'10 Hyundai Genesis Coupe
Just got the achievement for beating the game with all characters on Medium or higher difficulty.
Tip: Use your best character to get to Seth and then use the character you haven't beaten the game with to beat Seth, it will count as beating the game with that character.
I did it the old fashion way for all the characters except one and then on the last one I tried the above method and it worked to get the achievement, it saves you guys from a lot of frustration. lol
Tip: Use your best character to get to Seth and then use the character you haven't beaten the game with to beat Seth, it will count as beating the game with that character.
I did it the old fashion way for all the characters except one and then on the last one I tried the above method and it worked to get the achievement, it saves you guys from a lot of frustration. lol
04-03-2009, 09:14 AM
#233
Suzuka Master
Ok, i just got the PS3 version yesterday at lunch and played for about 5 hours... my fucking thumb is purple and hurts like hell lol. Anyways, I haven't played this game (original SFII) since back in 7-8th grade where I used to always win local tournaments. I could do anything with every character. Now I feel like a complete newbie again.
I played online for about an hour and only won 2 of about 20 matches. lame
How do you actually beat the game or unlock new chars? Also, I'm having problems doing ultra moves.
I really want a fight stick.
I played online for about an hour and only won 2 of about 20 matches. lame
How do you actually beat the game or unlock new chars? Also, I'm having problems doing ultra moves.
I really want a fight stick.
04-03-2009, 12:25 PM
#234
here's a great guide to SF IV
http://mycheats.1up.com/view/supergu...ter_4/xbox_360
I heard some frys have been getting a bunch.
I found a TE fight stick at a gamecrazy; it's on ebay now...I hope to get $250 for it
http://mycheats.1up.com/view/supergu...ter_4/xbox_360
I heard some frys have been getting a bunch.
I found a TE fight stick at a gamecrazy; it's on ebay now...I hope to get $250 for it
04-03-2009, 06:38 PM
#235
Safety Car
Had to return my PS3 version back to blockbuster today 
I had it for over two weeks LOL. I may end up just buying it sometime soon.
I had it for over two weeks LOL. I may end up just buying it sometime soon.
04-04-2009, 01:27 AM
#236
Senior Moderator
So, played it at a friend's today...and finished it with Guile of all people. And yeah, my thumb's sore.
04-04-2009, 09:37 AM
#237
Safety Car
How did you like fighting that asshole Seth?BTW did you play the PS3 or 360 version.
Yeah I unlocked him too. To me he seems A BIT easier in VS mode rather than Arcade mode, but still cheap as hell. Also the red version of him looks downright weird.
Last edited by WdnUlik2no; 04-04-2009 at 09:41 AM.
04-04-2009, 01:16 PM
#238
Senior Moderator
And WTF on Seth. And certainly, even on Medium, you need to pay attention or the computer will spank you...but, when I took on Seth. Yeah, he handed my @$$ to me in the 2nd round (and 3rd)...
It took about 3 tries to beat him.