Teh Snaps

One of my friends roommate want to line up with me. He said he was going to spank me because he had a V8! I just smiled at him and said lets go. The first run I missed 3rd gear so that one was FAWKED! So we lined up one more time! We both punched and he got the jump on me because of the FAWKING front wheel drive, but once I got traction half way in to 2nd gear I started to catch up. Went to about 110 and by that time I was 2 car lenghts ahead

mclarenf3387

Your friend can't drive. A stock GT would beat you with the mods you have.

Nice kill none the less.

CL Platano

Nice kill...lets see the new shoes

Joe5.0

coupe or vert? He should beat you from a stop, but if he isnt that great of driver i can see it happening.

I pulled a 14.1 @ 99mph outta my dad's 110% bone stock 00 GT 5 speed.

tommyguy2

temps?

Joe5.0

Why the eye roll? I dunno, it was spring time, like 3 years ago.

Some guys with only pulling the air silencer and a great launch (like 1.9 60') have pulled 13.9's out of stock 2V GT 5 speeds.

Just because most people cant break mid14's with their bolt-on GT doesnt mean the car cant, it means the drivers suck.

BTW that 14.1 @ 99 was without even shifting out of 3rd.

tommyguy2

makes kind of a big deal. You can't compare what a stock 2V GT 5spd will run at 30 degrees, to what it will run at 80 degrees. People like throwing out all sorts of non-sae corrected times.

at 70 degrees I've only seen 14.4-14.5s run at the track, with bolt ons!

I've seen countless drivers drive the GT at 70 degrees at the dragstrip. None of them came close to 14.1, especially with their weak ass 95-96mph traps. at 30 degrees however, I saw 13.9's out of the same cars.

Joe5.0

Well his put down 235rwhp 285rwtq, like i said bonee stock, so maybe it had a bit more power than most GT's of that gen.

And any modded 99+ GT with boltons not running 13's is either bad weather, bad driver, or no traction. Period.

I have a buddy with a 01 GT coupe automatic. With exhaust (no headers), shift kit, UD pulleys, and bumped timing has ran 13.8 @ 100mph. Every time down, not really affected by weather too much.

tommyguy2

a cls with a cai will not get crushed by a stock 99+GT. both cars are close enought in the 1/4, that its a game of reaction times.

tommyguy2

read this article about a stock cls6 at the strip, in hot and humid alabama:

http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...ticle_id=41042

there are also videos for you to see it run.

Joe5.0

Are you blind? I OWN a CLS6. I know what they run. I arguably have one of the fastest 1/4 times for my mods, also. So I know what they run, and what they are capable of.

And yes, I agree that a CLS6 with an intake vs. a 100% stock 99+ GT 5 speed is a drivers race. Most races are drivers races, since any shitty driver can make a fast car slow.

I have beaten LS1's in my mustang, doesnt mean my car is faster.

A stock 99+ GT 5 speed SHOULD beat a stock CLS6. It is lighter, has more hp & tq, and has more available traction. That doesnt mean every driver of them knows how to take advantage of that. From a roll the CL-S starts to have the advantage because of gearing, higher redline, and power curve.

tommyguy2

bearly! ok, you wanna know the stock times?

68 degrees, low humidity.

2.29 60's for both cars:

cls6: 14.6 @ 95-96mph

99+GT: 14.4 @ 95-96mph.

theoretically, if they both started the race at the exact same time, the stang has the lead by the quarter by 2 cars(every tenth of a second is a car lenght, by the 1/4). however, on the streets, its nearly impossible to have identical reaction times, especially when your honkin' it off. If the CLS6 honks off, and therefore gets the jump, there is no way in hell the stang will win.

Teh Snaps

All i got to say is that A bone stock GT HORSEPOWER of that year =

Teh Snaps

Need to get WRAPING FIRST

Joe5.0

260hp =260hp

Which, btw is what your CL-S has. Does that mean that CL-S 260hp =

What if someone said fwd & 3600lbs = ??


And tommy if thats what you and a buddy ran the same day, thats great. But those times mean absolutely nothing to someone who can actually drive.

Joe5.0

BTW here's some backup:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._gt/index.html

Teh Snaps

Ok well there you go a SPORT CAR vs Sports Coupe... Funny how a Jap car has a v6 and putting down the same horsepower as a V8.....

imposss

I fucking hate this american mustang shit with v8 engine rear wheels drive it cant even beat 3.2 Acura. Spent 3 times more for gas and have less fun, comfort, design Acura Mustang

abouelmm

couldnt say it any better, i like the way you think,
but still the gt's are bad asses still, i wouldnt mind having one at all

mclarenf3387

But they have something called torque.

Teh Snaps

I do agree with on that, but if i cant get put down to connect it =

Like I said he beat me on the jump but he was having to shift way before I did in each gear.

Joe5.0

Wow, you're a complete moron.

How many real race cars use Fwd V6's? Get a clue retard.

And you're argument is that heavy, low tq fwd V6's are more fun than lighter higher torque, rwd V8's? Good luck with that opinion, o wise one.

Buddy4679

My girl has an 00 Mustang GT 5spd, and I have to say its a formiddable opponent. It weighs less and has the same power, so it all depends on the driver and their abaility to drive. She wont race me since racing isnt safe...in her opinion, but I have run both my CLS6 and her GT pretty hard and they both hold their own.

9722CL00Z28

GT's are slow. Back in the day 98-02 camaro's ran 13.5 to 12.8 stock. Oh well I can remeber when I ran 12.01's. My 97 CL makes a great daily driver.

F23A4

Garlic:Vampire
Kryptonite:Superman
Torque:Hondas

RUF87

Nice Kill Snaps

Too bad your thread ended up in a pissing contest and far too few

BTW, I get a kick out of those type of comments. Any experienced racer knows you can't compare one car's results to the next and say that is how everyone elses runs will end up like. Then you have track conditions, temps, maintenance variations, yada yada yada . . . and then there's the street race where even more factors come in to play . . . and the best one is . . . well this "insert trade rag results here" says my car will beat your car, like we don't have a chance . . .

BTW, I've beaten V8 GTs with my TLS Automatic . . . so much for trade rag results

Ruf
02 WDP TLS w/ Black Interior
1/4 mile: 14.4 @96MPH

Joe5.0

14.4 is pretty good, and would give most average stock 5 speed GT drivers a race.

RUF87

Well to be fair and balanced, I don't always hit the shift points right or even might be a bit slow to react :killer: anyway, on those runs where I miss timed the shift I ran 4 10ths slower . . . the point is it's easy to see how another car that's .5 secs faster could be beat . . . ya got to have the A game or you'll get beat.

Ruf

Teh Snaps

I will have to say that RUF can drive!!!! I have seen this fool in action

All Mine

All I've been able to pull off is a 14.8@97.1 That's pretty much our stock time, isn't it?

Teh Snaps

I pulled a 14.5 in my auto but that was with Headers Intake and Exhaust! Ruf has a certain driveing style that gives him the edge! He has mastered the gate shifting. Everytime I did that my timing would be off. Im itching to see what i pull in my 6-speed. Getting the launch will be interesting!

numbaonestunna

I call BS. No self respecting track opens their doors when the ambient temperature is below freezing. And I've runa 13.96@101 at 64 degrees farenheit out on my old '01 GT with magnaflow catback, Steeda CAI, and Pro 5.0 shifter. 1.98 60 foot on stock gatorbacks. Any questions?

FunkeeTown

my buddy has an 04 mustang gt bone stock and it's not even a race. that thing just pulls pulls pulls. of course the only reason why he bought it is because i used to spank his 93 rx7 with my 2000 trans am. now i have an 01 clp and he has a muscle car...funny how things change. maybe when i get my headers/turbo... riiiiight.....