banana

Didn't know where to post .....

Hey guys, thought I would report the results I got from the drag strip I went to during my vacations.

Weather condition : Sunny day but quite humid (88°F, 79% humidity).
Track condition : Known to be a very sticky track....People usually get good 0-60ft
Car preparation :
- Rear tires inflated to 45 PSI, front to 25 (gave the best results in the past)
- Driver side roadlamp removed (right in front of air filter)
- Ice bags on the intake plenum between runs
- Koni dampers set to firmest level (helped a lot with 0-60ft)

Results (60ft et, 1/4 et, 1/4 mph)

#1: 2,23 sec, 14,30 sec, 99,64 mph (sooooooooo close to 100)
#2: 2,27 sec, 14,33 sec, 99,47 mph
#3: 2,21 sec, 14,29 sec, 98,23 mph
#4: 2,24 sec, 14,25 sec, 95,49 mph (had to brake)

I had to brake right at the end of run #4 because it was bracket racing and I was ahead the other driver. I was pissed to see that it was my best run even though I had to brake. This makes me think I could hit 14,20 or even 14,19 with the same setup.

Here's a couple pictures:

Lord Helmet

Nice times!


However...



Did you get your ass handed to you by the Goes Like Hell? Those little GLH Omni's are supposed to be killer quick.

609CLTYPES

nice runs, very close to 13's
what mods do you have?

banana

I meant blown Omni as in blown engine Omni On this pic it was stopped by the side of the track, but when it was running, it did about 13,9x I think

JaDia4

Pretty good runs, especially with only intake and suspension

banana

CAI, Headers, Pulley, Thermoblok spacers with TB coolant bypass ....



Last year, I did 14,59 @ 96,x MPH with headers and CAI, so the pulley and the spacers were a great improvement I think

609CLTYPES

i cant wait to mod my engine, im getting a aem cai soon... headers and pullies will come soon after that

Lord Helmet

Now I understand but 13.9's I believe! Those little farkers are quick! I've always been a secret admirer of the Omni GLH.

Again, nice times bud. Too bad you were doing the braket racing on that final run. It would have been sweet to see what she would have done.

00suprchrgdAV6

Do you have underdrive pulley or Sc ultra light pulley ( same size as stock)?

banana

I got the underdrive pulley. By the way, it seems like my AC got weaker after the install....maybe it's just me cause I had not used it for a while before.

pits200

And these times are from an Auto CL-S. Thats pretty darn nice...

00suprchrgdAV6

I had the underdrive pulley on before my s/c. The ac does get weaker. So does everything else at idle speed. Once on freeway or whatever it gets better. Its underdriving your accesories. Its worth it though.

tommyguy2

with 88 degrees and 79% humidity, I'd be lucky to see anything better than a 14.90! I also have the same mods as you except for the tb spacers. I have an '03 TLS btw. Are you using nitrous? it wuld help explain your otherwise abnormal times. the time kindda falls right in line with what a 75 shot can do.

rtatsutani

What kind of tires/rims? And for those conditions, those are great times, almost unbelievable... Small shot of NOS? Even a little 50 or something???

banana

I didn't think my times were so uncommon ! No, I don't have any nitrous .... I'm sure good track preparation (tire pressure, ice on the intake, removed driving light, firm damper, etc) helps a lot. Tires are pirelli Pzero Nero, 235 width. Wheels are 18" Enkei : 21 lbs.

I left my slips at my parents house, I'll post my best run on monday if I don't forget them this weekend...

There was a stock '06 WRX that did 14,20-14,40 that day .... does this sound "normal" ???

tommyguy2

You have to have used some nitrous. even a six speed with I/H/P would have a very heard time breaking 14.5, in 88 degree weather.

iisylentii

Come on man let us in on the secret. Did you take out the back seat and spare tire, And do you have a painted carbon fiber hood and trunk for that sleeper effect ?

juruki

iTrader: (2)

I think there was another auto that ran a 14.2 with similar mods... I cant remember his user name thou

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

Auto's are easy to launch. A 6MT is a bitch to get out of the hole.

banana

Ok, guys, I talked with people that were there and they said temperature was more like 77° F (I'm not familiar with Farenheit values and used a wrong conversion from 26°C). Here's my yellow (lost) timeslip which matches the pictures above (car number and event date).



I took out the spare tire and any junk in the car, but everything else was in.

and here's a picture of my engine bay from a couple weeks ago when I was installing the spacers (no nitrous there !!)

SIRSIG

no wonder, this run was July 16 1906 back then it was different. j/k man, you gotta let us know how you did it. did you torque break? did you launch around 2500RPM? your opponent 60' is better and it's said on top "winner" how's that?

banana

All in all, I have about 20+ passes at the racetrack with this car so I had the opportunity to experiment quite a bit with launching I think. My best 0-60 is about 2,21 (which didn't give the best 1/4 ET by the way). I know the best pressure for this wheel/tire combo and I found out that the best launch was done when torque braking very little (about 1500 rpm) and easing in the throttle (do not floor it right away, but don't take too long either !).

I know that they spray some sticky stuff on the track for added traction. This track is at sea level or VERY close to.

Don't know what else to say other than I use synthetic oil and water wetter .......


haha, I didn't even actually look at the date on the slip ....

banana

It says "winner" because it was bracket racing and I went quicker than my dial time. I put 14,3 but went 14,258 even though I slightly braked at the end, causing the 95mph trap, this automatically eliminated me.

tommyguy2

you have a wet kit. Its being jetted in with the fuel. Let me restate: it is absolutely impossible for a cls to run a 14.2 in those temps/humidity, naturally aspirated. In order for a cls to run a 14.2 in 76degree/88 humidity weather, you would need aproximately 290whp. I know because a friend of mine uses nitrous, and that is his dyno. at those conditions he runs a 14.2/14.1, with a 75 shot.

banana

Ok look, I don't have nitrous. No wet kit, no dry kit, no nothing related to nitrous. I don't think my car is much of a freak either since I ran 14,59 @ 96,xx mph with i/h and same preparation for the race, which I thought was not very good (was expecting 14.49). It would be absolutely pointless for me to lie about having nitrous..... This track is setup for 1/8th mile, and 1/4 mile events only happen twice a year. I'll get to run the 1/4 again only next summer. So far, the best I did at the 1/8th is 9,3@77 or 78, can't remember.

If you think it is all impossible, then the track might be in question (then all cars would be quicker than usual).

What picture would you like me to take to prove that I don't have any nitrous .... the trunk ? By the way did you see it was 77°F not 87° as I first thought

don't know what else to say ......

mattg

that's strange. because my car ran close to a second quicker with a 75 shot and similer conditions.

tommyguy2

yeah, and I have your mods, and I can't even break 15 when its that humid out.

tommyguy2

dude I don't mean to bust your chops here, but its just that the reason why I bought my car was because of people like mattg, and darrinb, reporting a 14.2 with just i/h/p. I bought the car put on the same mods, and it ain't even close. Nitrous doesn't even have to be a large shot. It can be a small shot as well. The only thing left to do is cooling mods, which go in this weekend. other than that, as far as naturally aspirated goes, this car was a dud for me. I actually wanted a g35 coupe 6mt. such a pity.

CleanCL

iTrader: (4)

290whp in a cl-s... even auto... could dip into 12s. im not sure tommy, you know what your talking about. there was hat guy in his CL-S6 w/ just an intake that ran a 13.9. typeR w/ the 3.5L dynoed about 250whp/240tq and ran a 13.3

i think a 14.2 is an excellent time for that car w/ those mods. and i can believe it. stiffen the motor mounts, lose some weight, and you could dip into 13s.

SIRSIG

there's so many factors involve. elevation, temp., tire pressure, etc... and not all cars created equal.

banana

I never said I could run 14,25 any day of the week, any season at any track. Maybe this track is wrong. Maybe there was something up with my car that I can't figure yet (maybe my tranny is dieing thus shifting harder....... ). The only thing I know, is that I don't have Nitrous. Period. So stop implying that I do, it's getting annoying. I always saw on this board that an auto cl-s with i/h could run 14,5. Have you ever considered the possibility that your track might be faulty ???????????? You should post your detailed timeslip, maybe we could give you some insight about what could be wrong.

banana

Exaclty what I think too .....

banana

See that green bottle ? That's sticky stuff for those high horsepower car racing at that track on 1/4 mile events.




Look at the results !!!!! Pretty cool picture with the helicopter in the background huh ?

SIRSIG

what's the elevation if you dont mind me asking? do they have some kind of convertion factors at the track? if you take a look on this site right below it, there's a formula to figure the altitude correction factor of the race track above sea level...

http://www.lacr.net/week.html

banana

As far as I know, there is no correction factor on these times .... (I didn't ask, and didn't hear anybody talk about it). As I said before, we are at sea level or VERY close to. The track is a couple miles away from the St-Laurence river, if there is anybody from Quebec on the board, they'll know what it is; It's a huge river flowing from the great lakes into the Atlantic ocean (around 30 miles wide at this point). When you go down the track, you feel like you're going to end up in the water if you continue past the return way.

You can see it (the river) in one of the pictures I have.

tommyguy2

that sticky stuff is not the reason you ran a 14.2. your 60' is still 2.XX, had your ET been due to your launch you would have had to have had a 1.7 60' to get your 14.2. A dead give away for your nitrous useage is your abnormally high mph. 99mph trap speed? with 90 percent humidity, and an auto cls? FORCED INDUCTION buddy! specifically Nitrous Oxide Systems.

banana

This is getting ridiculous, if you're trying to piss me off, you're doing a really good job . So now you think I have nitrous hidden in the seats (from your PM)? Come on !

The guys with 75 shots get mid 13 second pass. The guy in the other thread did 13,8 and there is still room for improvement. Every car magazine got about 14,9 from our car back in 2001. It is a known fact that a CLS with intake and headers has the potential for 14,5. Joe5.0 got 13,9 with his 6 speed, without headers on drag radials ...... I could go on and on about people getting around 14,3 with the mods I have. Why don't you post you slips ? Are you sure your actuator is fine ?

And about the humidity .... I don't carry a humidity meter to the track ... I'm not a freakin meteorologist ... I just looked at it before I left in the morning so it probably diminished through the day.

I'm tired of this ping pong game we're playing..... so you think I have nitrous ? Fine, it seems nothing will convince you I don't. I think you have made your point and so did I, we'll let the other people juge by themselves, they have all the required information to do so in this thread.

pfffff.....NOS hidden in the seats .....

banana

look at this:
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166965
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175262
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174487
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=155088
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=174052
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=172391
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169535
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177024
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178841
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179613
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182222
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=175340


need more examples ? Maybe all those peeps got nitrous hidden in their seats ??

609CLTYPES

Banana i believe you... Jealous ones envy

CleanCL

iTrader: (4)

this poor guy runs a good time and people give him the 5th degree.

he even has the slips to prove it. this forum is going bad places.