SuperTrooper169

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I'm really REALLY bored at work today so I decided to compare us to our competition. I got al the info from http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html. I figured the most universal comparison would be for a stock CL-S 6 speed or a modded CL-S auto. I included cars that we should beat, ones that would be a drivers race and sleepers. Some cars really suprised me for various reasons. Enjoy!

Cars we should beat...

1997 Audi A8 Quattro 6.7 15.0
1993 Audi S4 6.5 15.1
1999 BMW 750iL 7.3 15.5
2002 BMW X5 4.6is 6.5 15.1
1985 Buick Regal Grand National 7.5 15.7
1965 Chevrolet Corvette 6.2 14.9
1968 Chevrolet Corvette 327 7.7 15.6
1999 Chrysler 300M w/ Perf. Pkg. 7.7 15.9
1973 Dodge Charger SE 440ci 7.4 15.2
1992 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 6.7 15.2
1980 Ferrari 308 GTS 6.9 14.9
1968 Ferrari 330 GTS 6.9 14.9
1991 Ferrari Mondial t Cabrio 6.6 15.0
1974 Ferrari Dino 7.1 15.5
1999 Ford Contour SVT 6.8 15.2
2004 Ford Focus SVT 7.4 15.6
1995 Ford F-150 Lightning 7.5 15.7
1967 Ford Mustang (390ci V8 w/4spd) 7.4 15.6
1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 6.5 14.9
1984 Ford Mustang SVO 7.9 15.8
1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 6.4 14.9
1994 Ford Mustang GT 6.1 14.9
1992 Ford Taurus SHO 7.5 15.4
2002 Ford Thunderbolt SLP 4.0l 6.5 14.9
2006 Honda Civic SI 7.2 15.1
1995 Honda Prelude VTEC 6.7 15.1
2003 Honda S2000 6.3 14.9
1998 Jaguar XJ8 L 6.7 15.0
1965 Jaguar XK-E II 6.5 15.0
2001 Jaguar X-Type 3.0 6.3 14.9
2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee Ltd (5.7 Hemi) 7.0 15.2
1983 Lamborghini Jalpa 7.3 15.4
2001 Lexus IS 300 7.6 15.3
1995 Lexus SC 400 7.0 15.2
2000 Lincoln LS V8 7.5 15.7
1984 Lotus Turbo Esprit 6.6 15.3
1991 Lotus Elan SE 6.6 15.2
1990 Mazda RX-7 Turbo II 6.3 14.9
2002 Mercedes-Benz C320 6.8 15.1
1990 Mercedes-Benz 500SL 6.4 14.9
2003 Mercury Marauder 6.9 15.4
2004 Mini Cooper S, 6-speed Manual 7.2 15.3
1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX 6.4 14.9
1991 Nissan 300ZX Turbo (auto) 7.0 15.4
1995 Nissan Maxima SE (manual) 6.6 15.2
1968 Plymouth Barracuda 340ci 7.1 14.9
1992 Plymouth Laser RS Turbo 7.1 15.0
1973 Pontiac Firebird 455ci 7.3 15.0
1995 Pontiac Firebird Formula 6.7 15.1
1983 Porsche 911 SC Cabrio 7.0 15.5
1989 Porsche 911 Cabriolet 6.5 15.0
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo 6.6 15.1
2004 Saab 9-3 Aero 6.9 15.1
2004 Saturn Ion Redline 6.3 15.3
1992 Subaru SVX 7.3 15.5
2000 Toyota Celica GTS 6.6 15.2
1989 Toyota Supra Turbo 6.6 15.2
1996 Volkswagen GTI VR6 6.7 15.1
2004 Volkswagen GTI 1.8t (manual) 6.5 15.2
2002 Volkswagen Passat W-8 4Motion 6.9 15.4
1996 Volvo 850 R 6.9 15.3
1998 Volvo S70 T5 6.4 14.9

Drivers race...

2001 BMW 330i 6.1 14.8
1995 BMW 540i 6.2 14.8
1981 BMW M1 6.2 14.6
1995 BMW M3 6.2 14.6
1993 BMW M5 6.2 14.6
2004 Cadillac XLR 5.9 14.4
1994 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Conv. 6.2 14.5
2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Supercharged, 6.1 14.4
1988 Chevrolet Corvette Z51 6.0 14.6
2005 Dodge Magnum R/T AWD 5.9 14.5
2004 Chrysler Crossfire (6 speed) 6.4 14.7
1993 Dodge Daytona IROC R/T 6.3 14.8
1991 Dodge Stealth R/T Turbo 6.0 14.5
1994 Eagle Talon TSi AWD 6.6 14.6
1989 Ferrari Testarossa 6.2 14.2
1999 Ford F-150 Lightning 5.8 14.3
1993 Ford Mustang Cobra 5.9 14.5
1969 Ford Mustang Mach 1 428ci 5.7 14.3
2004 Honda S2000 5.8 14.2
2003 Infiniti G35 6.2 14.7
2000 Jaguar XKR 5.6 14.2
1968 Lamborghini Miura V12 6.3 14.5
1982 Lamborghini Countach S 5.7 14.1
2002 Lexus GS 430 5.8 14.3
2002 Lexus SC 430 6.2 14.6
1988 Lotus Esprit Turbo 5.8 14.4
2004 Mazda RX-8 5.8 14.49 (6 speed)
2006 Mazda MAZDASPEED 6, 5.8 14.6
1998 Mercedes-Benz C43 5.8 14.4
2000 Mercedes-Benz S500 6.1 14.5
2003 Mini Cooper S, John Cooper Works, 6.2 14.5
1992 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 5.8 14.3
1994 Nissan 300ZX Turbo 6.0 14.4
2005 Nissan 350Z 35th Anniversary Edition 6 Speed 5.8 14.3
2003 Nissan Altima 3.5SE 5.9 14.6
1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 5.8 14.3
1996 Pontiac Firebird Formula 5.8 14.3
1973 Pontiac Grand Am 455ci 6.6 14.6
2006 Pontiac Grand Prix GXP. 5.7 14.3
1995 Porsche 911 Cabriolet 6.4 14.5
1993 Porsche 928 GTS 6.1 14.5
1988 Porsche 944 Turbo S 5.5 14.2
1997 Porsche Boxster 6.0 14.5
2001 Qvale Mangusta 6.1 14.6
2002 Subaru Impreza WRX 5.7 14.4
1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo 6.1 14.7
2004 Volkswagon Golf R32 6.4 14.5
2004 Volvo V70R 6.06 14.43

Sleepers (that either keep up or beat us)...

1986 Dodge Shelby GLHS 6.5 14.8
1993 Dodge Daytona IROC R/T 6.3 14.8
1998 Lexus LS 400 6.3 14.8
2001 Mercedes-Benz S600 5.4 13.9
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT 5.8 14.4
2002 Nissan Maxima SE 6.0 14.7
1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 6.6 14.9
2004 Subaru Forester 2.5 XT, Turbo 5.3 13.8
1988 Toyota MR2 Supercharged 6.5 15.0

xxpnoiboi03xx

interesting

typeS6S

wow how much time did you really have at work. I want your job lol

Paclark01

That's an interesting list...

LIPPSTUH

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interesting... missing cars though... but you must have been REALLY bored...

thanks for the contribution

kings4987

yeah ^^^ i agree.. i also want your job

SuperTrooper169

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I'm a graphic designer and it's kind of the nature of the business to be dead one day and then swamped the next. It's not that fun sitting around with no work, believe me, I'd much rather be busy than bored.

wakipaki

we can beat several ferraris and porsches =)

abouelmm

where the hell do you work, furniture fair? lol good info tho..

tnobori1

I love shit like this! Thanks for doing it!

SuperTrooper169

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Furniture fair? Don't know what that is. I work for a small corporation that makes, of all things, auto accessories, replacement parts and repair kits & tools.


Hey, no problem, my bordem is your gain!

All Mine

Very interesting. The Grand Prix GTP stock won't beat us. But if you run across one with as little as an aftermarket SC pulley, watch out...

VIPCLS

good info.

gurlblu2001

I think its quite hilarious when guys with family cars try and compare (in speed) their cars with real sports cars. How in the H___ is an Acura CL going to run with a GSX Mitsubishi ECLIPSE? These cars are AWD and are very potent when driven properly.

Ironically. another member of this forum and I have a little "Grudge" match going in which he will pit his 03 CL-S 6 speed against my 1995 GS-T. We're both fwd so there goes my advantage right there.

Hes done quite a bit of work from what I hear and believe me, I'm not worried one bit.

After I dust him off, maybe I'll go to the garage and pull out my 99 cl 3.0 Auto. That would probably be a fair race.

LOL !

(Dont let the factory printed numbers get you into trouble on the street....you may walk home !)

SuperTrooper169

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Direct quote from the website I took the info from:

PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU CONTINUE.
This is a collection of 0-60 and 1/4 mile times that have been accumulated from many different sources over the years. These sources all include vehicle testing done by "the experts" at Car & Driver, Motor Trend, Road & Track, various written auto publications and from the auto manufacturers themselves. Our club does not do any of the actual testing of the cars, we just post the results that we find from the above mentioned sources.

Our list provides "factory stock" road test figures for most of the Makes & Models of "production" vehicles that are available in the United States.

When viewing this list, please keep in mind that day to day testing conditions are not always perfect (or even consistent) due to weather and track conditions! The results that "the experts" have provided may NOT reflect what your car is capable of doing under your conditions. This list is only meant to be a guideline, NOT THE GOSPEL!!! We are not trying to publish the exact (or even the best) numbers that a specific make and model of car can run every time out of the box. We are only posting this information as a basic guide so that anyone can use it as a base comparison. Every reasonable effort is taken to keep this list as accurate and up to date as is possible.

So, there you go. I'm not trying to convince anyone that we'd win a race every single time against the cars on the list, (which by the way include all kinds of vehicles, not just sports cars) but that if we encounter them on the street here's the likely hood of whether it'd be a good race or not.

As far as the CL-S being a family car, uh no, it's a 2 door luxury sports coupe, I don't know how exactly that makes it a family car. But wait a second, don't I recall you claiming to have a Lincoln that can outrun our CL-S in a previous thread? What happened to that car? That's not a family car? And now you have a 95 GS-T AND a 99 3.0 CL??? Hmm, sounds a little like to me. Anyway, just like the website says, it's not the Gospel, it's just a reference.

Let's say for example though, if someone doesn't know how to drive a Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX and they're facing a modded CL-S 5at or CL-S6, then yes they can definitely be beat. Just like a GXS, if driven properly, our cars can be potent too. Just because it's AWD doesn't mean jack if the race is from a roll. From a dig of course it makes a difference, but even so, it doesn't automatically mean the race is over. Just ask all those AWD WRX owners out there that think they're going to walk all over us and all they see is our tail lights.

USMC2.3CL

A couple of weeks ago I went to atco raceway in jersey and I saw a gsx with an upgraded blow off valve and a couple of mods and his best run was a 14.8 so I can really see a CL-S beating a gsx

VIPCLS

The reason I was wandering what could hang with the CLS is because I have a friend that has a G35 coup and says he is up for a race I know the HP specs and that it is RWD but he wants to see, anyway I have a intake so I know I am pushin about the same amout of horses and was lookin around on the threads to see if anyone has ever had a kill on one!

CLsuperhero

with just an intake no I don't think you could take him. get headers or all the bolt ons and then I would say it is a driver's race.

VIPCLS

Ok, just the info I needed to know to come to peace with myself appreciate it.

pits200

Anyway you look at it, it's still a Mitsubishi....

fiveoh-tl

Ahhh, bench racing at it's finest.

gurlblu2001

And now you have a 95 GS-T AND a 99 3.0 CL??? Hmm, sounds a little like to me.

Why does that sound like BS?

Is it BS to you because you can only afford 1 car payment? LOL !

I have a few more cars as well including a fast Lincoln Mark 8 and a race ready 1991 Eclipse GSX AUto.

Regardless, Im not gonna flame you back, just going to state that this friendly competition between me and the other board member will soon come to fruition.

He has done several mods to his ride from what I understand and says that I have no chance in hell to win.

Its $300/race best 3 out of 5. I will soon post a picture of my $900 being handed to me as well as the video and timeslips.

Who has money on the CL-S raise your hand? I'll cover all bets. And yes, when you're done talkin...its still a Mitsubishi.

gurlblu2001

You really shouldn't take me serious most of the time....Im usually just bustin your balls !

implicit

I ran a G35 Coupe in my CL-S 6spd when it was bone stock. Rolling from about 140km/h the G35 pulled slightly to about 190km/h (1/2 car length). By 220km/h I had almost a full car length.

We tried it once to 200km/h and two more times to 220... consistant results. This was about 2 years ago.

Cheers

VIPCLS

Thats what I like to hear so u did have a kill!

maying2001

I wanna race you in my Evo, that way itll by mitsubish vs. mitsubishi

skyline98

Wow, post started off well.

I dont know how it got to be the "ooh yea i could beat you in my (Insert Car of Choice Here), with (List of mods here) for ($$ here). Wow congrats!

Back to the original post. Sweet list. I can't wait to really get a good feel for the 2002 Cl type S. Purchased one last week and the dealer still has it for parts that need to replaced. Should pick it up this week.

And to the gentleman that posted about the G-35 thank you, that was my first choice but could not find one for the right price for purchase. Can't wait to pull up on one( cough cough at the track of course

Although i wouldnt pull up next to a 1985 Buick Regal Grand National and do anything but drool!!

weaselbob74

I 2nd that.

supaman8118

I heard dat! I'm on azine about 2.5 hours a day at my job too, but I can't see most of the pictures

MarbleGT

We need to sticky this and keep adding to it. Every other week I see someone new ask what cars we can beat.

MarbleGT

On a side note, this is kinda interesting to glance over.

skyline98

Although i didn't see the Type R anywhere on the list.

Any one have any type-r stories?

Being an Integra owner 2x over ( Just sold my track tegra last week ) I just love that car, never had a type R.

I've seen post where people have do the paper to paper race and say the type s should win.

Can any one confirm Type S or Type R.

SuperTrooper169

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Just found this:

2000 Acura Integra Type R 6.2 14.9

AznStylez

actaully i raced a eclipse GSX turbo and beat it little more over than my car length alot of people underestimate CL-S. and eclipse r all overrated

gurlblu2001

Ok, let me first start this post by saying this is not intended to flame, downtalk or embarass anyone on the board or reading this post:

I want to thank all who made it out to the Chicago Lakefront meet in April. Awesome turnout ! I met a lot of really nice people and saw some beautiful rides. If you were there, I was the big guy with the 1995 Green Mitsubishi Eclipse assisting with setting the cars up for pics.

We discussed a lil challenge that would be taking place between myself and another member and his 03 CL-S. Results were as predicted, but I have to take my hat off to him as it was his first time running his car at the track and he did very well !.

The family came out to cheer us on and we had a really great time !

My best run of the day was the first run 14.045 @ 103.69 vs his 15.740 @ 82.42.
Wthe exception of this run, he consistently got of the line better than I did with a best 60' time of 2.309 vs my best of 2.341. I had to run him down most races after he put 4-8 cars on me from the jump. (Too much power, too little grip) I must admit that I am a roookie when it comes to launching a FWD car. Next time out, I will bring a different set of tires, play with tire pressure and try different slippages of the clutch since I have one of the strongest clutches on the market for street cars in the ACT 2600.

His best ET of the day was a proud 14.461@96.59mph. Very respectable.
One note about his runs, he later found that he was only running on 5 cylinders all day, so things may have been a bit different had all 6 been firing properly.

The 14.04 is in no way indicative of how fast this car actually is. I ran a best mph of 106.59 that day after launching like a girl with wheel hop and windshield wipers activated. I was only boosting at 15psi and running 1 level hotter plug than I should have. With the boost cranked up to 25psi, a cooler plug, race gas, decent launch via different rubber, this is easily a low 12 second car.

I can almost gurantee 11's by fall.

gurlblu2001

AznStylez

sooo.....he was ahead by 4-5 car lengths at begining? then u took off from there? usually figured CL's take off slow from the begining but get its moment aorund 30 mph and takes off from there

gurlblu2001

LOL ! No.

We started at the line evenly, took off at the same time and he got me out of the hole consistently, 4 out of 5 times. The CL is not necessarily faster out the hole, call it driver error on my part. Like I said, I have more power to put to the ground and spun the front wheels being over agressive.

gurlblu2001

LOL ! You dont really wanna do that to yourself son. I'd just go and spank you with my 9 second automatic Eclipse.

Whenever you and that 4 door tank of a family car make a trip to Chicago, you be sure and look me up for a quick lesson in street racing.

03_Type_S

Your car may be very fast. But it does not even compare to any Acura IMO. Going the fastest is not always the best thing either. That is why I love my CL-S I can go fast(fast enough) and still enjoy my heated leather seats, etc...

You may beat us in your Eclipse, but at least we will be comfortable and stylin while losin!

Not trying to crap on your car or anything I am just not a big fan of any Mitsubishi. I know some are very nice. But alot of them are crap as well. Same goes for Acura so don't hate, it's just the way it is.