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Old 01-17-2006, 11:46 AM
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1) The Chrysler 300 is ugly

2) The new Sentra looks terrific

3) Acura needs a V8 flagship sedan

4) Honda should have discontinued the Civic Coupe and moved the RSX to Honda (renaming it 'INTEGRA')

5) Nissan should have discontinued the Maxima in favor of what they made it.
Old 01-17-2006, 12:44 PM
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1. Acura need a V8 flagship
2. Acura needs a competitor to 7 Series and S Class
3. BMW 5 Series looks like shit (except for M5)
4. VW is overrated in every aspect
5. Audi/VW new grilles look like crap
6. Toyota trucks evoke more emotion than their cars
7. I love Subaru with a passion
8. G35 is overrated
9. M45 is one hell of a car
10. Diesel pick-ups are overrated, most people dont need one.
11. M-B R Class is the most pointless Benz in the US market
12. Why cant American cars be higher quality, better looking, and more reliable?
13. GM is still behind Ford and especially Chrysler (Interior,Exterior)
14. British cars are beautiful
15. Nissan > Honda > Toyota (in terms of looks and power)
16. Im gonna stick with Japanese cars/trucks until i can afford the maintanence of American/European cars.
Old 01-17-2006, 01:09 PM
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piecing together several points i agree with since almost everything has been said

1) Buying a car for MPG is not worth it (unless you have a 10mpg SUV)
2) I miss the design of the OLD lexus SC
3) Acura need(ed) a V8 flagship sedan (6 years ago)
4) Bangle's designs are getting better
5)VW's might look nice, but are overall shit.
6. American cars deserve more credit (z06, CTS-V, GTO, Mustang...etc..)
7. Acura will always remain a earth saving hippie of a company
8. G35 is overrated (kind of)
9. M45 is one hell of a car

the german vs japanese argument will die just as fast as the conservative vs liberal one will, never! (in no particularly respective order)
Old 01-17-2006, 02:12 PM
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The horsepower battle will soon become the kilowatt war.
Old 01-17-2006, 03:07 PM
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1) I actually like all the Bangle designs, sans the 5-series.

2) A car can still be a popular sports car, even if it doesn't come with a stick.

3) As much as I love the Challenger concept, all of this retro styling is going to ensure that domestic companies will never have that next big sports car and will never move forward.

4) The new Eclipse looks like shit.

5) As someone else said, MB C-Classes are overpriced for what you get, as is the E-Class.

6) Aston Martin is one of the least-appreciated exotic car companies out there.

7) Audi needs a 2+2 coupe besides the A4 convertible.

8) The reason Jaguar is unappreciated is because until the new XK (which is drop-dead gorgeous), they haven't done anything new in the longest time.

9) Mazda is a great bargain company.

10) Hummer made a good move with the H2, but commited suicide with the H3.

Anybody care to hear any more from the newbie?
Old 01-17-2006, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TLtezza
Anybody care to hear any more from the newbie?
Sure, and welcome to the board.
Old 01-17-2006, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout

11. Turbos are overrated, no one wants to wait for power.
I gotta disagree with this.
Old 01-17-2006, 06:02 PM
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Werd to the M45 being a good car, I like it a lot.
Old 01-17-2006, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by West6MT
Werd to the M45 being a good car, I like it a lot.
<---- considered parting with some of home equity to get one.
Old 01-17-2006, 07:11 PM
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Acura makes some killer muffins, not sure if it's just at the dealer my mom goes to though.
Old 01-17-2006, 07:40 PM
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1. Infiniti Q45 is highly underrated.
2. LX470/Landcruisers are really overpriced and outdated.
3. HEMI engines are overrated (new ones) and are being whored out, same goes for the “SS” from Chevy.
4. SC300/400 > SC430
5. Diesel > Hybrid
Old 01-17-2006, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SeCsTaC
Acura makes some killer muffins, not sure if it's just at the dealer my mom goes to though.
My dealer has bad-ass cookies.

Sometimes Shipley's donuts in the mornings.
Old 01-17-2006, 09:35 PM
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1) My G35 is the best car (overall) I've owned.
2) I hate chrome wheels of any sort, on any car. I think they look like crap.
3) Audi's and VW's have the worst reliabilty in the industry.
4) BMW's suspension and drivetrains are under-rated by Japanese car lovers.
5) Domestic vehicles, aside from a few halo cars, are not worth buying, ever.

Oh one more:

6) I agree that buying cars for fuel economy isn't a great idea, but the VQ is a thirsty sob!

Cheers.
Old 01-17-2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JackieO
1) My G35 is the best car (overall) I've owned.
2) I hate chrome wheels of any sort, on any car. I think they look like crap.
3) Audi's and VW's have the worst reliabilty in the industry.
4) BMW's suspension and drivetrains are under-rated by Japanese car lovers.
5) Domestic vehicles, aside from a few halo cars, are not worth buying, ever.

Oh one more:

6) I agree that buying cars for fuel economy isn't a great idea, but the VQ is a thirsty sob!

Cheers.


I TOTALLY AGREE! One exception though is big bodied cars, ie S, 7, A8, XJ, 300C. Those cars can pull off the large chrome wheels if done tastefully. But these days, I see people putting 20" + ghetto fabulous wheels on TSX and Acura TLs and IMO it just makes them look terrible.

Adding on to my list) G35 coupe is one stunning beautiful car, I went to go eat today, adn I saw this brand new laser red coupe, and man o man what a looker. Hopefully I'll be able to afford one later on.
Old 01-17-2006, 10:18 PM
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1) The best GM division is Pontiac
2) The most important car in the Acura lineup is the RSX
3) Lotus and all other two-seats roadsters can disappear from the face of the earth
4) It's worth it to drive an Acura and pay money for service, cuz you get free food and newspapers at the waiting area
5) 1997-2001 Toyota Camry is one of the best-looking interior and exterior midsize sedan designs ever

SC300/400 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SC430
Old 01-17-2006, 10:51 PM
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1) The Lamborghini Gallardo is one of the worst cars ever created and needs to die.


And, this isn't really an opinion that goes against the grain, but I really really like the refreshed Chevy Monte Carlo SS..........
Old 01-17-2006, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by M TYPE X
1) The best GM division is Pontiac
2) The most important car in the Acura lineup is the RSX
3) Lotus and all other two-seats roadsters can disappear from the face of the earth
4) It's worth it to drive an Acura and pay money for service, cuz you get free food and newspapers at the waiting area
5) 1997-2001 Toyota Camry is one of the best-looking interior and exterior midsize sedan designs ever

SC300/400 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SC430

Explain #2, and #5 is just wow... lol. I think the most important car in Acuras line up is the TL followed by the TSX, as those are the cars that sell, and that bring in the profit .
Old 01-18-2006, 02:59 AM
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Why doesnt my dealer have cookies or muffins. At least they had a new owner day where they had us come in to "learn" about our new car (I already knew what they told me haha),........which had mini cheesecakes and brownies etc.

haha,...#5 is wow, just wow ^^
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Originally Posted by DownUnder
1. Infiniti Q45 is highly underrated.
2. LX470/Landcruisers are really overpriced and outdated.
3. HEMI engines are overrated (new ones) and are being whored out, same goes for the “SS” from Chevy.
4. SC300/400 > SC430
5. Diesel > Hybrid

YES to #3,...........all I see when I turn on the TV is HEMI this, HEMI that. Give it a rest.
Old 01-18-2006, 11:33 AM
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I was going to put something about the RSX too. I don't know that it's the most important car in Acura's lineup, but I think it's my favorite car under $30k.
Old 01-18-2006, 01:11 PM
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1) Hemi's are overrated,
2) VQ engines suck with gas milage( i now drive an QX4, gas guzzeler)
3) NSX is an exotic
4) BMW is over priced excpt for the M's
5) hate the VW and audi grill( growing on me though)
Old 01-18-2006, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AS3.0CL
2) VQ engines suck with gas milage( i now drive an QX4, gas guzzeler)
Of course, you do have the VQ with the worse fuel economy. (I get 23mpg in my 02 Maxima and about 18mpg in my 05 Murano)
Old 01-18-2006, 01:46 PM
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1) Acura needs a V8
2) Acura needs RWD
3) Honda needs a V8 for the ridgeline
4) Bangle design sucks.
5) The C6 Vette doesnt get teh respect it deserves
Old 01-18-2006, 01:52 PM
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1. new IS is highly highly overrated
2. 4 door> 2door
3. hyundai will surpass honda and nissan within 10 years. (my bold prediction)
4. RL is a disappointment, but i still want it.
5. 5 looks good, 3 is aiite.
6. hummer is da shit
7. chrome sux
8. 95 bmw 325i>2001 acura cl (my cars)
9. simpsons>family guy
10.i love new audi grillz
11.tsx>tl (design)
12.accord's new rear is as ugly as older version.
13.new civic is somewhat overrated
14.new camry is the bomb
15.i actually like element and scion xb
16.i don't like the new mustang
17.the new s class=the best looking sedan ever
18.current evo looks awesome!
19.GTO is ugly as hell
20.stock 300 looks horrible.
Old 01-18-2006, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
Of course, you do have the VQ with the worse fuel economy. (I get 23mpg in my 02 Maxima and about 18mpg in my 05 Murano)

i know i do, i do mostly city and i do have a heavy foot so i'm on it a little bit, i get like 12mpg, 15 if i'm lucky. but i love off roading with it, me and my dad will go out sometimes in our SUV's or he'll bring his truck. i swear i can't get this truck stuck at all. the CL is still up for sale, i take it out every once in a while, gonna miss it.

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Old 01-18-2006, 02:42 PM
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1. the 3, 5, 6, and 7 series designs are hot.
2. the audi grill is hot.
3. volvo s60r exists, and it's underrated.
4. the maxima is a nice looking car.
5. chrome is ugly. tasteless on luxury cars.
6. infiniti makes beautiful front halves of cars but ugly butts.
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I feel like I'm reading the same thing over and over...Anyone have anything different to IMO?
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In 5 years if you drive an SUV you will be stoned by virgins.
Old 01-18-2006, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
In 5 years if you drive an SUV you will be stoned by virgins.
.....but what if you're a non-drug user and married?!?!
Old 01-18-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
9. simpsons>family guy


Originally Posted by chungkopi
12.accord's new rear is as ugly as older version.
15.i actually like element and scion xb
16.i don't like the new mustang
19.GTO is ugly as hell
Old 01-18-2006, 06:48 PM
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Family Guy > Simpsons
The New Civic looks like garbage (how did it get car of the year)
Acura needs to get rid of the RSX, make itself a more higher end company (Lexus doesnt have a 22k car)
Scion xB's are nothing but boxes on wheels, tC is pretty nice though
Where is Peugeot?
Old 01-18-2006, 07:47 PM
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Hmmmm

The Pagani Zonda F is THE BEST sounding car in existence (see most recent Top Gear with a Zonda). Season 7, episode 4,...its silver, right at start of show.
Old 01-18-2006, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by West6MT
Hmmmm

The Pagani Zonda F is THE BEST sounding car in existence (see most recent Top Gear with a Zonda). Season 7, episode 4,...its silver, right at start of show.

I disagree, the Porsche Carrera GT is the best sounding car in the world.
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Originally Posted by Minch00
I disagree, the Porsche Carrera GT is the best sounding car in the world.
I used to feel that way,........and still feel it is a close second,......but hearing the Zonda F on that Top Gear,...I think it JUST edges out the Carerra GT. Perhaps I should compare them again,..but I stand by my orig statement.
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
I feel like I'm reading the same thing over and over...Anyone have anything different to IMO?
I've got something different for you.

1) I can see Hyundai become a even more serious threat to Honda and Toyota in the near future; in fact, I can see myself buying a Hyundai as my next car due to its excellent value.

2) GM cars are very underrated, when you consider how much they cost. For example, a Saturn ION costs $3-$4000 less than the new Civic but has the same "essentials..." yes, its less refined, etc...but the price difference is at least $3000.

3) Cartridge Oil Filters are overrated...period. They are messy to change, and often requires wacky tools for the housing...not to mention the numerous rubber gaskets. (Uhh...the necessity of a Hex wrench to change the upside-down mounted cartridge filter on the Mazda 6 is a ) Not to mention that most cartridge filters, in the "lower-grade," are as expensive as many of the high-efficiency, "normal" oil filters.

4) Synthetic oil is waaaaaaaaaay overrated. Most DIYers will find a better value in changing their own oil with a $1/qt conventional oil every 4-5000 miles compared to changing it every 7500-10000 miles with synthetic oil. However, this of course does not apply to those who don't change their own oil, as the labor costs will quickly make longer drains with synthetic a better value for the people in that crowd.

5) Trop Artic, Chevron, Havoline, and Supertech oils are underrated.
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i knew it was gonna be somethin' about oil!
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Originally Posted by dark inspire
i knew it was gonna be somethin' about oil!
LOL,.same here.
Old 01-19-2006, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Michael Wan
I've got something different for you.

1) I can see Hyundai become a even more serious threat to Honda and Toyota in the near future; in fact, I can see myself buying a Hyundai as my next car due to its excellent value.

2) GM cars are very underrated, when you consider how much they cost. For example, a Saturn ION costs $3-$4000 less than the new Civic but has the same "essentials..." yes, its less refined, etc...but the price difference is at least $3000.

3) Cartridge Oil Filters are overrated...period. They are messy to change, and often requires wacky tools for the housing...not to mention the numerous rubber gaskets. (Uhh...the necessity of a Hex wrench to change the upside-down mounted cartridge filter on the Mazda 6 is a ) Not to mention that most cartridge filters, in the "lower-grade," are as expensive as many of the high-efficiency, "normal" oil filters.

4) Synthetic oil is waaaaaaaaaay overrated. Most DIYers will find a better value in changing their own oil with a $1/qt conventional oil every 4-5000 miles compared to changing it every 7500-10000 miles with synthetic oil. However, this of course does not apply to those who don't change their own oil, as the labor costs will quickly make longer drains with synthetic a better value for the people in that crowd.

5) Trop Artic, Chevron, Havoline, and Supertech oils are underrated.
You need serious counseling.
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1. In 5 years if you buy a new car it will have several design points from the book of Bangle

2. Many American cars are under-rated when transaction costs are considered

3. S. Korea will surprise a lot of the non-cognoscenti

4. Porsche's are a bargain

5. The Elise/Exige is a bigger bargain

6. The Z06 is an even bigger bargain, and it's engine is a masterpiece

7. DC just need a little better QC and they will own all

8. Most people who think Bimmer's are overpriced either haven't exploited, don't have the skills to exploit or don't care about chassis dynamics

9. AWD is over-rated FWD is WAY over-rated RWD is slightly under-rated

10. Hybrids are dumb, if you think they make economic sense take a math class if you wanna do good for the environment take the extra "hybrid" bucks and buy credits on the Chicago Climate Exchange, you will be doing more good

11. HP is over-rated

12. Torque is under-rated

13. Large SUVs are useful

14. Very few who own them know how they are useful

15. Wagons ho! Minivans go.... away

16. Turbo 4s stink, Turbo 8s and 12s do not...

17. If a large part of the seat was once a dinosaur don't call it leather

18. Auto makers need to exploit good synthetics as a better/cheaper version of leather

19. Plood should be illegal, as well as pletal

20. All manual gearshifts should feel like the S2000 unless it has legacy and character like the metal gates on a car from the Scuderia in Maranello

21. NO 4 cylinder should be allowed dual exhaust tips

22. Toyota should sell more Rav4s than Camry's

23. AMG lost lots of value when it whored out to the entire line, even the Austrain built "tank"

24. I would like to own a Phaeton

25. I would also like to own a BMW 120d

26. The rasp from an S54 at 4-5K is heavenly

27. 9 spokes "fit" the TSX

28. Lexus will never do "sport" right

29. Invisible bras are for wimps

30. Xenons are not "all that"

31. the most important safety is avoiding the accident not surviving it

32. we know and care far too little about tires

33. the MX5 is soooo under-rated, even more then the Boxster

34. tuner cars rarely meet the hype, you can almost always buy more capable stock cars for less money

35. Bass is over-rated

36. multi-channel audio is over-rated

37. kit cars are cool

38. the Element is usually a poor choice

39. the big three need to forget halos and spend the money on the lolo cars

40. cars and drivers should have individual speed limits

41. the Zephyr has a cool interior

42. keyless entry etc is over-rated

43. navi is over-rated

44. Nascab is over-rated, DTM and WRC are under-rated

45. Brock Yates is a bafoon

46. advertising does not sway mag writers

47. anyone who buys a Mallet Solstice is daft... get a Vette

48. James didn't just couldn't drive

49. Senna wasn't THAT good

50. red is almost always a good color choice, inside or out

50. I pontificate too much
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Well you hit #50 dead on ^^











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