ThermonMermon

Just curious.

I am weighing out some SUV options towards the end of the year. Either a CPO 2016 base AWD RDX, CPO 2015/16 Edge Titanium, or lease a low mileage option 2018 XC60 / 2018 RDX, and buy off lease.

From a numbers standpoint, I am seeing non-fleet 2015 Edge Titaniums CPOs loaded with 20k miles for $26 / 27k, which is a few K less than a 2016 CPO base AWD RDX.

I have heard some horror stories with Ford, but that didnt apply as much to the more modern Fords, although the Ford Edge is a turbo. I am looking for 5+ year ownership. The car will not be garage kept, and banged around by wife. The car would get 5k miles a year from weekend only use and occasional road trips. We really want something that has a very low likelihood of being in the shop, and will just be standard oil and tire changes for a majority of our ownership.

Thanks!

SamDoe1

Buy a CRV Touring for about the same price and more features if you want unwavering reliability and low running costs.

ThermonMermon

Wife started the conversation at Range Rover...I got her down to Acura. I tried to push Subaru and Honda, but they were non-starters. The brand is important to her.

​​​​​​​The Ford Edge somehow was an exception...I think because she liked the way that it drove...who knows...

YeuEmMaiMai

tell her she can have what she wants but she gets to pay for and maintain it... :o

The auto in that is pretty solid but you do have to stay on top of the fluid changes....and get the 3.5L version... those are nice

SlowLane

I would consider buying a Ford Edge. We've owned quite a few Fords over the years. Explorers, F-250, an Escape. They were all reliable vehicles. I put over 80,000 miles on my last Explorer. I am a little over 2 years into my lease on a Volvo XC60. I've only had to do basic maintenance so far.

ThermonMermon

contrary to the perception - she works really hard and does well for herself, and doesnt want to "settle". so cant really fault her there. If anything, I am controlling the decision more than i have the right to.

Although the 3.5L MPGs take away from one of the better selling points - city (around town) MPG. Car wont get much highway mileage. Not sure on the history of the turbo...

SamDoe1

If badge is important then I'd recommend tossing the Lexus NX into the mix as well.

Does the Edge come with the 3.5L? I thought it only got the 2.7L in the sport model? I think the Lincoln MKC looks pretty damn nice too.

ThermonMermon

The NX is shockingly cramped on the inside. Like, a few sets of clubs in the trunk, no front knee room, and no space for a rear facing baby seat.

I wish the new XC60 came out a year or two ago and was offered as a CPO. The XC90 could be in the cards, but its too large. Anyway....

SamDoe1

If that's the case then the RX is always a solid option. If all else fails, the RDX is still a good buy but make sure you get it with fog lights.

To answer your question about the Edge, I drove it when I was looking for my Jeep (there's another idea, a JGC Summit is nice AF) but found it to be nothing all that great. The sport wasn't all that fast, the features and interior were meh and the price was still in line with competitors.

RDX10

The 2015 Edge is the newest body style correct? If so, that has two turbo options, a 2.7L twin turbo (in the sport only) and a 2.0L 4 cylinder turbo. So you are referring to the 4 correct?

In either case,
Ford Edge >>> Acura RDX

Ford has done a really good job with this latest gen Edge and it really straddles the line for near premium vehicle, it puts up a great fight against many entry level luxury/premium cars.

My suggestion to you though is go take a look at the 2015 Lincoln MKX as well, if you like the edge, you will LOVE the MKX. It's a really solid car and feels more expensive than it is. Especially if you can get one with the 2.7 twin turbo engine. That way you can get cheap service all the while having the wife happy to have a more premium badge.

ThermonMermon

no go on lincolns, or the RX (based on my personal likings).

​​​​​​​Germans - no go on maintenance. MAYBE the X3, but the backseat is too small
LR - no go on maintenance
​​​​​​​Lincolns - Notoriously known for black car service in the area. Cant do it.
Lexus - NX too small, RX too soccer mom
Infiniti - Hate the driving feel from infiniti/nissan
Acura - RDX
Ford - Edge
Volvo - Old XC60 too tight for baby seat, new XC60 is perfect

I think we have firmly limited down our options to what was noted. At this point, we are just trying to gauge ford reliability (15/16 Ford Edge Titanium 2.0L turbo), particularly in comparison the the '16 RDX.

00TL-P3.2

Assuming the Edge has the 2.7TT that I have in my F150, I say go for it. I'm only at 10k miles, but have had no issues so far.
Before your last comment, I'd have said to check out the MK-X for a little more 'upscale' than the Edge, but I really like the Edge. Were it me, I'd go Explorer Sport, Edge Sport, Flex Limited EcoBoost.

We have a member here with an Edge Sport, can't recall who. He also got his tuned by Livernois & picked up a good bit of power.

juniorbean

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You're missing out on the Germans. All we've purchased the last 10 years or so are CPO Germans and they've all been rock solid. And the CPO typically comes with a maintenance package. Look into one of the Audi "Q" models or a small Mercedes SUV. Gets your wife the brand she wants, plus, it's a very different ownership experience.... and all around both the vehicles and dealership experiences are all but guaranteed to be better than Ford.

But, if Ford is what she wants, the Edge is a nice ride. The Explorer Sport would be nice as well...

ThermonMermon

I tend to agree. Our other car is a 2008 A6 with 66k miles, which we bought used. It is in really good shape, minus that fact that the suspension is starting to get a bit squishy. I'll likely let it go when the first expensive repair comes along, likely the shocks/suspension. In any event, I'm not sure if I want two used germans to deal with simultaneously.

And as far as big rear facing baby seats go, you cant really get by with mid-level used germans. X3, GLK, and Q5 all have back seats too small. The Q7 is too big for my 5-1 wife. The ML is a bit long in the tooth, and the X5 is probably pushing 40k CPO. While an X5 would be GREAT...it is hard to swallow because we collectively put 5-7k miles a year on the A6 (which will be halved when we get a second car)....and I like to pay cash on CPOs. Which means the outlay cost feels more 'real'...and the $ per mile driven is higher than normal, as you cant really bring the depreciation curve to zero just because of lack of miles driven.

juniorbean

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Mercedes GLC or GLE? GLC may be too small but I have two different friends who just had kids recently, both have the GLC and love it. No problems with rear facing baby seats. Surprised this is an issue with the Q5... seems to be similar in size to the GLC which seems to work fine for them...

ThermonMermon

the GLC just came out. Not much of a CPO market.

juniorbean

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^ Yeah, not even a year yet. But you never know... some people trade stuff in quickly

ThermonMermon

Wow...cheapest CPO within 300 miles is 40,xxx. Ha. 8k miles.

I think Ford Edge may be a good fit. XC90s have another few months to depreciate, coupled with the release of the XC60, and prices may come down a bit further. But seems like they are rounding out at 40k with everything said and done. Which still seems very high given the cost new.

SamDoe1

What about the Jeep Grand Cherokee? The summit model definitely looks the part of a luxury SUV. Has space, reliability, class, and the ability to go over a mountain or two if you remove the front air dam. FCA also offers a LIFETIME bumper to bumper warranty on any car that's still under factory coverage and that's through the manufacturer and not a third party.

ThermonMermon

lol. You should have seen my wife test drive the JGC. the hood and dash, etc is really more truck like. The salesman made her pull over and had me drive back. a 5-1 small woman with the seat all the way up against the steering wheel peering over the dash. it was borderline dangerous.

SamDoe1

Really? With the number of 5-0 asian women driving Escalades and Denalis, I figured that shoehorning smaller people into large cars was a thing of the past these days...

cjTL

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I've been really happy with my Edge. Love the damn thing so much. Drives and behaves like something much more premium than its class. Only issues were a few interior rattles the dealer took care of and a radiator fan that was making some squeak. Otherwise, it's been 18K happy miles. Mine is the Sport, so it has the 2.7TT (with 400HP courtesy of a Livernois tune ), but other guys on the forums with the 2.0 turbo 4 have had no issues. That engine has been around for a few years now. I'd avoid the N/A 3.5 V6 option...nothing wrong with it, just is a bit outdated and dull.

If you care, they can be had with some pretty neat tech too (active lane keep assist, parallel and perpendicular park assist, hands-free tailgate, front 180 degree camera, etc, etc.).

ThermonMermon

i am shooting for panoramic, nav, sony audio, and HIDs...which will probably land me with most, if not all tech options in the used market. I love the idea of getting the Sport, but this will 90% city/10% highway use. "Why would we pay more to get worse mileage?" - Wife

What MPGs were you getting around town/city prior to the tune?

00TL-P3.2

Forgot how much Livernois was able to get out of it for you. I'm just over 10k on mine, need to get around to giving them a call.

SamDoe1

Tell her it's more about smiles per gallon.

RPhilMan1

Yes I would buy a CPO Ford Edge.

As for tuning, keep in mind that when I tuned my ST my MPGs actually increased. It's more about the way you drive, and highway driving should only help that even more.

cjTL

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Luckily, Ford packages their options as large option groups. Not sure how it is on the Titanium trim exactly, but for my Sport, 401A got me the front cam, lane keep, cooled seats, heated rear sets, HIDs, nav, etc etc). So it shouldn't be too hard to find a Titanium with a lot of options.

As far as fuel economy, I don't really pay attention, honestly. I averaged 20mpg combined with a tune, and it was about the same before. That's with some fairly spirited driving though. Tunes usually have no ill-effects on gas mileage, and in some cases, they improve it. I can get 27mpg on the highway if I'm behaving.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. I love the Edge and cannot recommend it enough. It drives so nice.

Exactly!

cjTL

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Haha..man is it a hoot. You'll wonder why you waited to do it. Someone else with an LMS tuned Edge ran a 13.1 1/4 mile a few weeks ago. Tune only...that's JGC SRT territory.

00TL-P3.2

It's definitely in the cards. Need to get through this house buying process before putting any money into the truck.
It's a hoot in Sport mode as is, can only imagine it with a tune.