What happened to Temple of VTEC (vtec.net)?
08-18-2024, 04:32 PM
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Honda in general became a big, meh yawn for me. There's no longer anything exciting, interesting, or significantly different about them.
My first Honda was a 50cc motorcycle when I was a kid. I would go on to own nearly two dozen Honda and Acura automobiles and motorcycles over the decades.
In the later years, one of the last unique vehicles Honda had was the Ridgeline - I owned and enjoyed six of them, but the quality kept going down, the model became stagnant, and more unibody pickups became available.
I don't regret (most) of the Honda and Acura vehicles I purchased. I had more knowledge about Honda than any other brand, but today's Honda is quite different from the Honda I felt in love with many years ago.
My first Honda was a 50cc motorcycle when I was a kid. I would go on to own nearly two dozen Honda and Acura automobiles and motorcycles over the decades.
In the later years, one of the last unique vehicles Honda had was the Ridgeline - I owned and enjoyed six of them, but the quality kept going down, the model became stagnant, and more unibody pickups became available.
I don't regret (most) of the Honda and Acura vehicles I purchased. I had more knowledge about Honda than any other brand, but today's Honda is quite different from the Honda I felt in love with many years ago.
08-19-2024, 12:27 PM
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I thought the new Civic hybrid is amazing - it's nearly as big as the Camry inside but physically much smaller. It's got great performance - 0-60mph in 6.2s and 1/4 mile in the 14's. That's pretty awesome for a "regular" Civic. The 10g and 11g Civics both drive really well. The icing on the cake is that it gets 40-50mpg everywhere while being under $30k. Let's not forget the nice interior and the many features. This IMO is what Honda is about - delivering value, efficiency, performance, practicality, and fun-to-drive factor, at a price point that is affordable for a lot of people. People raved about the new Prius when it came out, and the Civic seems to be better in just about every single way. That's classic Honda for me. Add in the Type R and the Civic is just so good - especially compared to the past Civics.
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08-19-2024, 03:34 PM
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0-60 in 6.2 is pretty great.
IIRC, my 2.0T Mercedes was barely quicker at 5.9-6.1
IIRC, my 2.0T Mercedes was barely quicker at 5.9-6.1
08-19-2024, 03:45 PM
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Some of you that know how to contact Jeff may can suggest or ask if he considered selling the forum?
Several of the forums I've been on over the decades were bought out by VerticalScope out of Canada. They all use Xenforo software for consistency.
Several of the forums I've been on over the decades were bought out by VerticalScope out of Canada. They all use Xenforo software for consistency.
08-20-2024, 10:20 AM
#46
Thanks for that, Alex!
It's a relief that it's nothing concerning; all good things come to an end.
There are a few of us old dinosaurs turning up here like bad pennies...perhaps this thread ought to be retitled 'Ghost of ToV'.
Yes, the Civic Hybrid is a genuinely excellent car - sprightly, refined and with an excellent ride/handling compromise. I suppose over there it will be dismissed as '[sheep noise] Civic' just as it is unfairly ignored over here.
It's a relief that it's nothing concerning; all good things come to an end.
There are a few of us old dinosaurs turning up here like bad pennies...perhaps this thread ought to be retitled 'Ghost of ToV'.
Yes, the Civic Hybrid is a genuinely excellent car - sprightly, refined and with an excellent ride/handling compromise. I suppose over there it will be dismissed as '[sheep noise] Civic' just as it is unfairly ignored over here.
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08-20-2024, 12:48 PM
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Thanks for that, Alex!
It's a relief that it's nothing concerning; all good things come to an end.
There are a few of us old dinosaurs turning up here like bad pennies...perhaps this thread ought to be retitled 'Ghost of ToV'.
Yes, the Civic Hybrid is a genuinely excellent car - sprightly, refined and with an excellent ride/handling compromise. I suppose over there it will be dismissed as '[sheep noise] Civic' just as it is unfairly ignored over here.
It's a relief that it's nothing concerning; all good things come to an end.
There are a few of us old dinosaurs turning up here like bad pennies...perhaps this thread ought to be retitled 'Ghost of ToV'.
Yes, the Civic Hybrid is a genuinely excellent car - sprightly, refined and with an excellent ride/handling compromise. I suppose over there it will be dismissed as '[sheep noise] Civic' just as it is unfairly ignored over here.
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08-21-2024, 06:39 AM
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We only get the hatch, of course.
Really, it's not that far short of my Leg End on interior space & perceived quality - and in EV mode, the refinement is better. I'm convinced that Honda's current hybrid system is simply brilliant.
The slightly dull steering and some strut jounce, lack of a sweet-revving V6 and the sad absence of SH-AWD are the main reasons I'd not really want one. The old Leg End seems a far nicer place to sit than many cars costing vastly more.
Also, the Civic is a reasonable size externally - anything bigger round here is a complete waste of space.
Really, it's not that far short of my Leg End on interior space & perceived quality - and in EV mode, the refinement is better. I'm convinced that Honda's current hybrid system is simply brilliant.
The slightly dull steering and some strut jounce, lack of a sweet-revving V6 and the sad absence of SH-AWD are the main reasons I'd not really want one. The old Leg End seems a far nicer place to sit than many cars costing vastly more.
Also, the Civic is a reasonable size externally - anything bigger round here is a complete waste of space.
08-21-2024, 09:20 PM
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Hondarulez here from TOV. I was checking vtec.net on a daily basis to see if it was just a glitch or something. Sad that it's gone but at least I'm glad to hear Jeff is fine. $20k of hosting cost is no joke and I totally understand why he's no longer hosting it.
I thought the new Civic hybrid is amazing - it's nearly as big as the Camry inside but physically much smaller. It's got great performance - 0-60mph in 6.2s and 1/4 mile in the 14's. That's pretty awesome for a "regular" Civic. The 10g and 11g Civics both drive really well. The icing on the cake is that it gets 40-50mpg everywhere while being under $30k. Let's not forget the nice interior and the many features. This IMO is what Honda is about - delivering value, efficiency, performance, practicality, and fun-to-drive factor, at a price point that is affordable for a lot of people. People raved about the new Prius when it came out, and the Civic seems to be better in just about every single way. That's classic Honda for me. Add in the Type R and the Civic is just so good - especially compared to the past Civics.
I thought the new Civic hybrid is amazing - it's nearly as big as the Camry inside but physically much smaller. It's got great performance - 0-60mph in 6.2s and 1/4 mile in the 14's. That's pretty awesome for a "regular" Civic. The 10g and 11g Civics both drive really well. The icing on the cake is that it gets 40-50mpg everywhere while being under $30k. Let's not forget the nice interior and the many features. This IMO is what Honda is about - delivering value, efficiency, performance, practicality, and fun-to-drive factor, at a price point that is affordable for a lot of people. People raved about the new Prius when it came out, and the Civic seems to be better in just about every single way. That's classic Honda for me. Add in the Type R and the Civic is just so good - especially compared to the past Civics.
Hybrids are where it's at right now.
08-22-2024, 10:00 AM
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Haha!
EVs are generally hated here around the East Texas Oil Field. There's always a number of "must be an EV!" comments following local news reports of a vehicle fire. So far, they've all been ICEVs. I've spoken with some of the local fire chiefs and none of them could recall responding to an EV fire. It will almost certainly happen eventually, but probably not nearly at the frequency that some people might think.
EVs are generally hated here around the East Texas Oil Field. There's always a number of "must be an EV!" comments following local news reports of a vehicle fire. So far, they've all been ICEVs. I've spoken with some of the local fire chiefs and none of them could recall responding to an EV fire. It will almost certainly happen eventually, but probably not nearly at the frequency that some people might think.
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08-22-2024, 02:26 PM
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Also it seems like in the US, the electricity cost to fuel cost difference isn't as big as where I live (it's like 10x cheaper to charge an EV for me than fueling up an equivalent sized car).
08-22-2024, 03:27 PM
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08-22-2024, 10:28 PM
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08-22-2024, 10:55 PM
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He likes Civic's pretty well. The CTR next to the Hybrid is his.
08-25-2024, 04:54 PM
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I emailed Jeff about VerticalScope. Hard telling if I will get a response.
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Fords (and Rivians) can now charge at nearly half of Tesla's existing Superchargers and all new Superchargers. Most of these require a manufacturer-provided adapter, which is in short supply. There are third-party adapters available as well.
Here in Texas, USA, the cost of electricity purchased from the grid is about one-third the cost of gasoline to travel the same distance for a similar-sized vehicle.
Here in Texas, USA, the cost of electricity purchased from the grid is about one-third the cost of gasoline to travel the same distance for a similar-sized vehicle.
Man that's a big difference hahaha.
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