What do we think about the Z4 3.0si?
04-15-2007, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Just found out my old buddy works for the local BMW dealer now. 
Im going next week to take either a Z4 or 335i home for a day to see how I like it.
IF i could pull it off, i would rather have a Z4m roadster than the 335i. We shall see how it all works out but the lease rates on the Z4m arent as great as the 335i sedan.
Im going next week to take either a Z4 or 335i home for a day to see how I like it.
IF i could pull it off, i would rather have a Z4m roadster than the 335i. We shall see how it all works out but the lease rates on the Z4m arent as great as the 335i sedan.
04-15-2007, 02:46 PM
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I been reading up on leasing for the past two weeks. Leasing works out well depending on which car you looking at. Some BMW leases have really low MF (money factors) with high residuals so it makes it a better choice for most to lease them.
So say in I lease a Z4 3.0si, at the end of the lease i figure I would lose about $2k compared to if i bought it and then sold it in 3 years. I personally get bored after 3 years of cars so knowing i dont have to worry about selling the car on my own would be nice. Plus the monthly payments are lower and i dont have to put ANY money down. I could use that downpayment money I would have used on financing and put it towards investing something. Would gain more than $2k by doing that alone.
But like i said it all depends on the car and its lease rates. I wont lease something that will make me lose more than 3k compared to buying it.
Leasing is never cheaper than buying (financing) in the long run. I know this but its so much more convenient. Also i want a roadster and i KNOW i will get sick of it within a few years. If i thought i would keep the car for awhile then yea i would buy it.
I also want a track car that i can beat on and not worry about it.
So say in I lease a Z4 3.0si, at the end of the lease i figure I would lose about $2k compared to if i bought it and then sold it in 3 years. I personally get bored after 3 years of cars so knowing i dont have to worry about selling the car on my own would be nice. Plus the monthly payments are lower and i dont have to put ANY money down. I could use that downpayment money I would have used on financing and put it towards investing something. Would gain more than $2k by doing that alone.
But like i said it all depends on the car and its lease rates. I wont lease something that will make me lose more than 3k compared to buying it.
Leasing is never cheaper than buying (financing) in the long run. I know this but its so much more convenient. Also i want a roadster and i KNOW i will get sick of it within a few years. If i thought i would keep the car for awhile then yea i would buy it.
I also want a track car that i can beat on and not worry about it.
04-15-2007, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I been reading up on leasing for the past two weeks. Leasing works out well depending on which car you looking at. Some BMW leases have really low MF (money factors) with high residuals so it makes it a better choice for most to lease them.
So say in I lease a Z4 3.0si, at the end of the lease i figure I would lose about $2k compared to if i bought it and then sold it in 3 years. I personally get bored after 3 years of cars so knowing i dont have to worry about selling the car on my own would be nice. Plus the monthly payments are lower and i dont have to put ANY money down. I could use that downpayment money I would have used on financing and put it towards investing something. Would gain more than $2k by doing that alone.
But like i said it all depends on the car and its lease rates. I wont lease something that will make me lose more than 3k compared to buying it.
Leasing is never cheaper than buying (financing) in the long run. I know this but its so much more convenient. Also i want a roadster and i KNOW i will get sick of it within a few years. If i thought i would keep the car for awhile then yea i would buy it.
I also want a track car that i can beat on and not worry about it.
So say in I lease a Z4 3.0si, at the end of the lease i figure I would lose about $2k compared to if i bought it and then sold it in 3 years. I personally get bored after 3 years of cars so knowing i dont have to worry about selling the car on my own would be nice. Plus the monthly payments are lower and i dont have to put ANY money down. I could use that downpayment money I would have used on financing and put it towards investing something. Would gain more than $2k by doing that alone.
But like i said it all depends on the car and its lease rates. I wont lease something that will make me lose more than 3k compared to buying it.
Leasing is never cheaper than buying (financing) in the long run. I know this but its so much more convenient. Also i want a roadster and i KNOW i will get sick of it within a few years. If i thought i would keep the car for awhile then yea i would buy it.
I also want a track car that i can beat on and not worry about it.
Cool...just checking. My dad actually just bought the RX330 that he leased for my mom. The car was worth more than 10K more than the purchase price at the end of the lease.
04-15-2007, 06:23 PM
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I cant stop thinking about the S2000 since i drove it. 
But most likely get sick of the harsh ride.
Should wait for the new CTS and A5..
I so hate/love car shopping.
But most likely get sick of the harsh ride.
Should wait for the new CTS and A5..
I so hate/love car shopping.
04-15-2007, 09:08 PM
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Kinda depends on how willing you are to giving up an extra 2 seats... 
I have friends with 2-seaters (SLK, S2000) who have often lamented about how they regret not getting something that can seat more people.
Otherwise, I've read nothing but good stuff about the Z4.
I have friends with 2-seaters (SLK, S2000) who have often lamented about how they regret not getting something that can seat more people.
Otherwise, I've read nothing but good stuff about the Z4.
04-15-2007, 09:09 PM
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Oh look, someone just reviewed a couple threads down! 
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/wow-let-me-tell-you-about-bmw-363481/
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-talk-5/wow-let-me-tell-you-about-bmw-363481/
04-15-2007, 09:46 PM
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wow sorry i just made my own thread about this in car talk I drove one over the weekend and wrote what I thought along with pics. And I mean a good couple hour drive if I had reliezed this was here I would have not made a new one but heres my thoughts on it.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363481
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363481
04-15-2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I cant stop thinking about the S2000 since i drove it.
But most likely get sick of the harsh ride.
But most likely get sick of the harsh ride.
I daily drive mine, but then I'm not everyone else. I find that the stiff ride and the noise melt away when the top is down. When the top is up - things could get irritatiing for some between the top and seats squeaking, engine noise, and what not.
Again depends on the type of driver and enthusiast you are. I just got back from the S2000 meet at the Dragon and there were folks who drove close to a 1000 miles one way in their S2000s - its not a terrible hwy car by any means.
A Z4 will offer you 80-85% of what an S2000 delivers, but with a more liveable personality.
04-15-2007, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Also I dont mind getting something impractical, its kinda the reason i want to lease it for 2-3 years. Just for the experience. 
Gotta go research more on lease deals on the S2k, i might end up in one. 
Gotta go research more on lease deals on the S2k, i might end up in one.
04-16-2007, 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Oh i know, how about the Sky Redline? I think ill give it a whirl tomorrow.
04-16-2007, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
I also want a track car that i can beat on and not worry about it.
My guess is that you'll burn thru pads on a track in this car - I know I do; although, I don't have any full maintenance offered on my car.
The high residuals and the maintenance coverage always entices potential buyers into BMW dealers and then leasing some of their models.
I like the Z4 - in fact, saw one today weaving in and out of traffic it looked good. Of course, I only saw its tail lights.
04-18-2007, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Tripp11
BMW offers full maintenance on their vehicles, correct? Wiper blades, brake pads, oil changes, brake pads.....did I say brake pads?
My guess is that you'll burn thru pads on a track in this car - I know I do; although, I don't have any full maintenance offered on my car.
The high residuals and the maintenance coverage always entices potential buyers into BMW dealers and then leasing some of their models.
I like the Z4 - in fact, saw one today weaving in and out of traffic it looked good. Of course, I only saw its tail lights.
My guess is that you'll burn thru pads on a track in this car - I know I do; although, I don't have any full maintenance offered on my car.
The high residuals and the maintenance coverage always entices potential buyers into BMW dealers and then leasing some of their models.
I like the Z4 - in fact, saw one today weaving in and out of traffic it looked good. Of course, I only saw its tail lights.
04-19-2007, 11:39 AM
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I'm gonna have to agree with the s2k fans here. I looked at the Z4 (the smallest engine variation) when shopping for the s2k, and comparing those the s2k had it beat on everything except comfort. The Z was quieter and more comfy inside (with the top up..I didn't get to test it with the top down) but when it came down to the fun, the honda FTW!!! Only gripe I have is what you said about the rocks pelting into the wheelwells. After a while though, driving it around town at like 4500rpms you don't even notice the pinging of pebbles...
04-19-2007, 12:44 PM
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S2K > *
http://www.silverstoned.com/media/wtd07sm.wmv
Obviously the speed of the video footage has been slightly increased but god damnit that looks like fun. I wanted to go this year but all my friends who own S2k's already had passengers before I started asking around.
http://www.silverstoned.com/media/wtd07sm.wmv
Obviously the speed of the video footage has been slightly increased but god damnit that looks like fun. I wanted to go this year but all my friends who own S2k's already had passengers before I started asking around.
04-19-2007, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoofin
I like the Z4...Pricing aside, I'd probably get the Z4 over my S2k if I had to do it all over again...More comfortable inside the Z4 than S2k...
as much as i hate my backbreaking s2k sometimes,, i would still take S2k over any roaster that is $50k or less.
04-19-2007, 02:43 PM
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what interior..... sports car dont need to have a fancy (LUXURY) interior.. as long as it is functional. and fyi my s2000 has as much leather as my g35...
more shit = more weight = less fun = Not s2000
more shit = more weight = less fun = Not s2000
04-19-2007, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
what interior..... sports car dont need to have a fancy (LUXURY) interior.. as long as it is functional. and fyi my s2000 has as much leather as my g35...
more shit = more weight = less fun = Not s2000
more shit = more weight = less fun = Not s2000
04-19-2007, 03:04 PM
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you can say that.. i drive it to work and school Monday - Friday.
I usually drive my g35c during the weekends. (until i sold it recently)
now s2000 is my only car
i know i am weird.
yah sometimes i wish my cabin was a little quieter.. but i CANT WAIT to drive my s2000 after i drive my g35...
The smile s2000 brings to your face > all the other crap
and ^ should be the #1 reason why any one would buy s2k.
I usually drive my g35c during the weekends. (until i sold it recently)
now s2000 is my only car
i know i am weird.
yah sometimes i wish my cabin was a little quieter.. but i CANT WAIT to drive my s2000 after i drive my g35...
The smile s2000 brings to your face > all the other crap
and ^ should be the #1 reason why any one would buy s2k.
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04-19-2007, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
what interior..... sports car dont need to have a fancy (LUXURY) interior.. as long as it is functional. and fyi my s2000 has as much leather as my g35...
more shit = more weight = less fun = Not s2000
more shit = more weight = less fun = Not s2000
04-19-2007, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
i know i am weird.
I was thinking the S2 was your weekend car or 2nd car, which would explain why you want a car to be on the sportier side and you wouldn't care about luxury features. With that thought, the OP will be using this ride as a primary vehicle/daily driver; thus, he would be concerned about luxury and if the car is comfortable.
Personally, I wouldn't want to drive my "play car" every single day of the week for my commute to work.
Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
I do think the S2 is a crap load of fun to drive though.
04-19-2007, 03:26 PM
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well yah most of the s2k owners have a 2nd car...
i guess i think differently from others...
i am still young... i should enjoy and have fun while i could....
i would not wanna drive a s2000 when i am 40, it s not really good for my health.
i guess i think differently from others...
i am still young... i should enjoy and have fun while i could....
i would not wanna drive a s2000 when i am 40, it s not really good for my health.
went and looked at the new 335s today. The 335i sedan is my next car. 
04-19-2007, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Especially if you're buying a house soon. It would be nice to save some cash each month.
plus the coupe is so much sexier. i just can't get used to the tails on the sedan.
04-20-2007, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
If you get a 335 with the sport package, be careful with the tires. They bubble very easily and they cost 400 a pop from the dealer.
04-20-2007, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
If you get a 335 with the sport package, be careful with the tires. They bubble very easily and they cost 400 a pop from the dealer.
I am thinking to change them to non-runflat if I can find a place for spare LOL the runflats don't grip well, they are freaking expensive, and ride is a bit harsh...
04-20-2007, 12:35 PM
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Well i was thinking of just taking off the tires right away and store them till the lease is over. Then put them back on, that way i cant get charged for anything.
Plus i hate run-flats.
Plus i hate run-flats.