want to swap TL engine into a 98 accord
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want to swap TL engine into a 98 accord
I bought a 98 Accord LX coupe with over 100k, the tranny is going out so I want to drop a TL engine in it. I was looking on ebay and saw a 'JDM J23A' with trans it has a buy it now price of $1900, does anyone know about this motor? Or does anyone have any advice about other swaps?
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I think you misspelled it. If you are looking for a TL motor that might fit (at least have similar motor mounts), then you'll want a J32A (6 cylinder).
My wife's Odyssey has a J23A in it..... a Total dog. Definitely a no for transplant.
My wife's Odyssey has a J23A in it..... a Total dog. Definitely a no for transplant.
Last edited by mrmako; 11-09-2008 at 04:18 AM.
#5
uh that's not a J23 if american Odyseey. cause ever since 1999 to current (2009 model year) Honda has used the J35. trust me I have a 2000 Odyseey with a J35, My mom had a J35 in her 05 and traded it on a 2008 with a J35. grant it same motor but they rework the heads and some other minor things. the newer J35s(08s and 09s) will walk at older J35.
#6
what is a "C motor" in Honda
okay i'll give you run down on Honda engine codes.
B- were the older high performance engines like B18C5s(Integra type Rs,C1s(GS-Rs). these were japan motors
F- these were older 4 cylinder Accord motors bulletproof motors(i got one with 320,000 motors not a ton of performance but they hold together well) built on line 1.
the second F series- S2000 motor. you can rev the piss out of this.
plus this is a japan motor.
H- these went in 4 cylinder CLs and Preludes. more torque than the F motors and higher performance. japan motor.
K- these are the newer form of the F series. these go in the Civic Si and current Accords,Elements, and CR-Vs. this is built on the new line 3.
D- old school civic motor, this was below the B series motor. no V-TEC pretty much you're poor man's motor IMHO. this was built on Line 0(which is no longer around and now part of Die cast).
and the engine you're looking into getting J series motor- Any V-6 motor of Honda's is a J series motor anything from the old Canada ELs(2.5s i think) clear up to the new TLs (3.7s) all J series. every V-6 is built on my line, Line 2.
okay i'll give you run down on Honda engine codes.
B- were the older high performance engines like B18C5s(Integra type Rs,C1s(GS-Rs). these were japan motors
F- these were older 4 cylinder Accord motors bulletproof motors(i got one with 320,000 motors not a ton of performance but they hold together well) built on line 1.
the second F series- S2000 motor. you can rev the piss out of this.
plus this is a japan motor.
H- these went in 4 cylinder CLs and Preludes. more torque than the F motors and higher performance. japan motor.
K- these are the newer form of the F series. these go in the Civic Si and current Accords,Elements, and CR-Vs. this is built on the new line 3.
D- old school civic motor, this was below the B series motor. no V-TEC pretty much you're poor man's motor IMHO. this was built on Line 0(which is no longer around and now part of Die cast).
and the engine you're looking into getting J series motor- Any V-6 motor of Honda's is a J series motor anything from the old Canada ELs(2.5s i think) clear up to the new TLs (3.7s) all J series. every V-6 is built on my line, Line 2.
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uh that's not a J23 if american Odyseey. cause ever since 1999 to current (2009 model year) Honda has used the J35. trust me I have a 2000 Odyseey with a J35, My mom had a J35 in her 05 and traded it on a 2008 with a J35. grant it same motor but they rework the heads and some other minor things. the newer J35s(08s and 09s) will walk at older J35.
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#8
if you want you can put in a frakenstien motor but since your car is a 98, you will have to notch the cam to get it to work with your distributor, any J motor will fit except for the newer 3.5L and 3.7L V6 and even those will fit with some heavy parts swapping.
Some people use the older oddessy block with the CL-S heads and call it a day (there is more to it than that you gotta search)
Some people use the older oddessy block with the CL-S heads and call it a day (there is more to it than that you gotta search)
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what is a "C motor" in Honda
okay i'll give you run down on Honda engine codes.
B- were the older high performance engines like B18C5s(Integra type Rs,C1s(GS-Rs). these were japan motors
F- these were older 4 cylinder Accord motors bulletproof motors(i got one with 320,000 motors not a ton of performance but they hold together well) built on line 1.
the second F series- S2000 motor. you can rev the piss out of this.
plus this is a japan motor.
H- these went in 4 cylinder CLs and Preludes. more torque than the F motors and higher performance. japan motor.
K- these are the newer form of the F series. these go in the Civic Si and current Accords,Elements, and CR-Vs. this is built on the new line 3.
D- old school civic motor, this was below the B series motor. no V-TEC pretty much you're poor man's motor IMHO. this was built on Line 0(which is no longer around and now part of Die cast).
and the engine you're looking into getting J series motor- Any V-6 motor of Honda's is a J series motor anything from the old Canada ELs(2.5s i think) clear up to the new TLs (3.7s) all J series. every V-6 is built on my line, Line 2.
okay i'll give you run down on Honda engine codes.
B- were the older high performance engines like B18C5s(Integra type Rs,C1s(GS-Rs). these were japan motors
F- these were older 4 cylinder Accord motors bulletproof motors(i got one with 320,000 motors not a ton of performance but they hold together well) built on line 1.
the second F series- S2000 motor. you can rev the piss out of this.
plus this is a japan motor.
H- these went in 4 cylinder CLs and Preludes. more torque than the F motors and higher performance. japan motor.
K- these are the newer form of the F series. these go in the Civic Si and current Accords,Elements, and CR-Vs. this is built on the new line 3.
D- old school civic motor, this was below the B series motor. no V-TEC pretty much you're poor man's motor IMHO. this was built on Line 0(which is no longer around and now part of Die cast).
and the engine you're looking into getting J series motor- Any V-6 motor of Honda's is a J series motor anything from the old Canada ELs(2.5s i think) clear up to the new TLs (3.7s) all J series. every V-6 is built on my line, Line 2.
1 - There is not much relation between the F in the Accord and the F in the S2000.
2 - The K replaced the F and the B. It also has a turbo variant that is its own beast.
3 - The R replaced the D.
4 - Honda has manufactured a V6 that is not a part of the J series, and is completely different. There are a number of members here who will gladly educate you about that. I'll give you a hint...its starts with an N.
5 - B series motors could also be found in CR-V's
In short, you are retarded. Research prior to posting, and learn to format your posts.
Last edited by Gilgamesh; 11-09-2008 at 04:27 PM.
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C32's I think are from the Legend/NSX. which one are you talking about? I think the legend is longitudinally mounted.
not to sure about the swap into a accord though.
not to sure about the swap into a accord though.
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Corrections:
USDM, the H never came in the CL, only in the Prelude. The H and some F are similar, some Frankenstein options.
The 96-00 style EL had a D16 vtec like the 96-00 Civic EX, the USDM 99-00 Civic SI is a B16.
what is a "C motor" in Honda
okay i'll give you run down on Honda engine codes.
B- were the older high performance engines like B18C5s(Integra type Rs,C1s(GS-Rs). these were japan motors
F- these were older 4 cylinder Accord motors bulletproof motors(i got one with 320,000 motors not a ton of performance but they hold together well) built on line 1.
the second F series- S2000 motor. you can rev the piss out of this.
plus this is a japan motor.
H- these went in 4 cylinder CLs and Preludes. more torque than the F motors and higher performance. japan motor.
K- these are the newer form of the F series. these go in the Civic Si and current Accords,Elements, and CR-Vs. this is built on the new line 3.
D- old school civic motor, this was below the B series motor. no V-TEC pretty much you're poor man's motor IMHO. this was built on Line 0(which is no longer around and now part of Die cast).
and the engine you're looking into getting J series motor- Any V-6 motor of Honda's is a J series motor anything from the old Canada ELs(2.5s i think) clear up to the new TLs (3.7s) all J series. every V-6 is built on my line, Line 2.
okay i'll give you run down on Honda engine codes.
B- were the older high performance engines like B18C5s(Integra type Rs,C1s(GS-Rs). these were japan motors
F- these were older 4 cylinder Accord motors bulletproof motors(i got one with 320,000 motors not a ton of performance but they hold together well) built on line 1.
the second F series- S2000 motor. you can rev the piss out of this.
plus this is a japan motor.
H- these went in 4 cylinder CLs and Preludes. more torque than the F motors and higher performance. japan motor.
K- these are the newer form of the F series. these go in the Civic Si and current Accords,Elements, and CR-Vs. this is built on the new line 3.
D- old school civic motor, this was below the B series motor. no V-TEC pretty much you're poor man's motor IMHO. this was built on Line 0(which is no longer around and now part of Die cast).
and the engine you're looking into getting J series motor- Any V-6 motor of Honda's is a J series motor anything from the old Canada ELs(2.5s i think) clear up to the new TLs (3.7s) all J series. every V-6 is built on my line, Line 2.
the older (1st gen 97-00) Canadian EL motors were 1.6L v-tec's. same as the civic SI's
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seems like a lot of work and $$ for a car as heavy as the accord. typically, engine swaps give you better potential for lightweight, underpowered cars. im whistlin dixie.
but hey, if you already own the accord and its going under the knife for a new tranny, why not..
but hey, if you already own the accord and its going under the knife for a new tranny, why not..
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I bought a 98 Accord LX coupe with over 100k, the tranny is going out so I want to drop a TL engine in it. I was looking on ebay and saw a 'JDM J23A' with trans it has a buy it now price of $1900, does anyone know about this motor? Or does anyone have any advice about other swaps?
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the "C" motor came in 2 cars, the Legend and the NSX and also came in the NSX in 2 displacements a c30 and a c32, the NSX came with the DOHC and the legend was SOHC. I/we swapped a c30 into a legend a few years ago.....man what an Awesome sounding motor !!!!!!
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Id recommend checking out the Accord forums, they do the TL motor swaps. . I dont think there is any way to get a C series into the accord. There is no J23A in the TL in the us. If you look for a US version its the J32A1 or J32A2 the later being the Type-s motor and the motor you should swap if swapping a V6
#22
95-97 Accord used C27 :P
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and water-s is glad to provide evidence he is still the dumb ass we all thought he was.
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OP,
Do you have a 4cyl LX coupe or V6 LX coupe? I think there is issue with engine swapping the 4cyl but you'd have to check out the accord forum that cannot be named to identify that issue.
Do you have a 4cyl LX coupe or V6 LX coupe? I think there is issue with engine swapping the 4cyl but you'd have to check out the accord forum that cannot be named to identify that issue.
#26
it can be done since the bays are the same but rewiring a car is NOT fun in the least bit lol :P
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What year was the Legend you swapped the C30 into? Link/Photos?
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