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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
the Veyron does 0-200 mph in 22 sec... this Viper does it in 19.9 sec.

What does that mean?

At 200 mph, you are going 293 feet per second. In 2.1 seconds you will travel 615 feet. Two football fields = 720 feet.

Yeah. The Viper is gonna be FAR AHEAD of the Veyron at 200 mph. Sorry.
Where did you get that 0-200? I've read from a couple of different sources that the veyron will do 0-184 in 14 seconds flat. I'm sure it doesn't take 8 more seconds to get to 200 from 184.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by oneilc
I'm sure it doesn't take 8 more seconds to get to 200 from 184.
you'd be surprised. I'm getting you a source.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by oneilc
Where did you get that 0-200?
new C&D.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 03:31 PM
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I would love to see the Viper and Veyron against a big APU supra, from 0-200.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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that's one of the hottest viper i've ever seen!!
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Black CL-S 4-Life
I would love to see the Viper and Veyron against a big APU supra, from 0-200.
i think it would be ugly for the toyota
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ATXCLS
You obviously know nothing about the Viper and are arguing a subject of which you have no knowledge.
I know a hell alot more that you obviously do. I know the viper was designed to go fast, But it was NEVER from the factory Designed to go 255 like the veyron was. The Veyron is also electronicaly limited to 253. All i was stating is the viron is Alot better suited to go at those speeds than the viper. Read up on the veyron and learn!
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ATXCLS
You're right, it probably couldn't pull those numbers at all without slicks-but so what?? Yeah, the Veyron is faster out of the whole-but it also isn't traction limited.

Furthermore, the Viper will catch the Veyron quickly and surpass it like Srika said earlier.
Yes it is if driven with out the aids.

and the viper ought to be faster once rolling. It weighs almost 1000 lighter 4300 compared to 3435 in the viper
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Like I would give that fuckbag a $1, let alone $250k...........back when I had the Viper that guy was just ripping people off right and left.

The stories were ridiculous.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
i think it would be ugly for the toyota
here are 2 Supras with big turbos vs. a Hennessey Viper Venom 800 TT... there's only one car this race is ugly for

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btw this Viper has 833 hp and 902 ft-lbs and does 0-60 in 2.43 sec and the 1/4 in 10.7 @ 137...

http://motortrend.com/features/perfo..._0106_ttviper/

these Supras are probably trapping in the mid 140's. They won't go much faster than 200 mph due to gearing tho.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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not much of a race. and from a roll at that.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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Got this from this link.. the bugatti is very impressive
http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring...s/bugatti1.htm

Rather than try and squeeze 16 cylinders into a vee format, Volkswagen came up with a much more compact idea a few years ago - the 'W' configuration. In layman's terms, it's basically two 4.0-litre V8s sharing the same crankshaft, which makes it more compact than similarly sized V12s.

This gargantuan 8.0-litre W16 has four valves per cylinder - for a total of 64 valves - and together with a supremely sophisticated forced induction system, it belts out 1001 horsepower, or 736kW @ 6000rpm.

Made of aluminium and magnesium (to keep weight down), the 7993cc W16 powerplant has four turbochargers and four camshafts, one for each bank of four cylinders respectively

With a 9.0:1 compression ratio and variable valve timing, the quad-turbo system helps boost the car's low end, while providing a fatter torque curve at the same time: 1250Nm of torque @ 2200-5500rpm. The closest any other production car comes to this staggering figure is Mercedes' CL 65 AMG, which pumps out 1000Nm from its 6.0-litre twin-turbo V12.

The new Bugatti is fitted with a brand-spanking new 7-speed semi-manual transmission, which is operated by paddle shifters located behind the tanned leather steering wheel. On average, the twin-clutch system takes just 0.2 seconds to change gears, which is quicker (on average) than a traditional manual.

In the real world, this 736kW and 1250Nm combines with the 7-speed, all-wheel drive transmission and a 1600kg kerb weight to propel the Bugatti Veyron to 100km/h from rest in 2.9 seconds. That's very quick.

If that isn't enough, the four-wheel drive chunk of exotica will hit 300km/h in 14.0 seconds flat and can cruise at 400km/h with ease. The car is electronically limited to 400km/h (248 mph), though if de-restricted the 8.0-litre coupe would be capable of at least 450km/h, perhaps more if the final-drive ratio and fuel-injection mapping was tweeked.

To safely and reliably accelerate to 400km/h, the Veyron makes use of custom-designed Michelin tyres, which utilise what has termed the Pax system. The tyres are capable of dealing with the stress of 400km/h speeds, and they also have a special pressure monitoring system and run-flat capability, so that even in the event of a high-speed puncture, things won't go all pear shaped.






16 cylinder Quadrouple Turrrrrbocharged AWD w/ 4 camshafts!$@$#@$%!
are you joking me? Its basically a VW since they own bugatti.

Somehow I think the bugatti will OWN the Hennessey in all aspects.
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Old Nov 2, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
not much of a race. and from a roll at that.
0-140ish in low 10's for the Supras, 0-137 in 10.7 sec for the Viper.

now understand, we are talking about a difference between 140's, 140, 137, 139, 142 and in those parts. these are extremely extremely fast cars, no if's and's or but's about it. that's really the bottom line.

btw C&D got 10.8 @ 140 for the Veyron.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 07:21 AM
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can anyone elaborate more on what the deal with hennesey is?
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:26 AM
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can anyone elaborate more on what the deal with hennesey is?
He is an excellent tuner.

People will ship their cars to him to have him massage their engines. He will say that he will tune the car and install parts. He will charge the customer. He sends the customer back their car with NOTHING done to it.

JH is an ass and will never see any of my money. At the Viperdays finals this year, he sponsored lunch and had people passing out flyers. Every single flyer ended up in the trash-and every single person was talking shit about him.


Now, Archer Racing . . . . . they are excellent guys and do excellent work. When I get another Viper, it is going straight to them.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
I know a hell alot more that you obviously do. I know the viper was designed to go fast, But it was NEVER from the factory Designed to go 255 like the veyron was. The Veyron is also electronicaly limited to 253. All i was stating is the viron is Alot better suited to go at those speeds than the viper. Read up on the veyron and learn!
I agree that the Veyron is an amazing car. What I was arguing was your statement, and I quote, "Id feel safer going that fast in the Veyron which was designed for speed."

What I took that to mean was that the Viper was not designed to go fast. Obviously, I mis-interpreted your statement.

I agree that if I were planning on going 255 mph, I too would like to be in the Veyron.
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
Yes it is if driven with out the aids.

and the viper ought to be faster once rolling. It weighs almost 1000 lighter 4300 compared to 3435 in the viper
I meat that the Veyron has AWD, whereas the Viper has RWD.

AWD>RWD
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ATXCLS
I meat that the Veyron has AWD, whereas the Viper has RWD.

AWD>RWD
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by srika
here are 2 Supras with big turbos vs. a Hennessey Viper Venom 800 TT... there's only one car this race is ugly for

download link

btw this Viper has 833 hp and 902 ft-lbs and does 0-60 in 2.43 sec and the 1/4 in 10.7 @ 137...

http://motortrend.com/features/perfo..._0106_ttviper/

these Supras are probably trapping in the mid 140's. They won't go much faster than 200 mph due to gearing tho.
I have no sound on my computer at work. So who won? Did the Supra guys let off?
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Old Nov 3, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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^^^ nobody got blown away, but the Supras held their own. also I don't think they took it past like, 160.
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