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03-26-2005, 02:36 AM
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okay my buddy with a 03 GTI 1.8 Turbo and I was argueing over which would be a better tuner hatch the next gen Civic Si or VW( I think its) 2.0 Turbo.
I said "the thing is with turbos no matter how much you perfect them they will never be as instant power as natural aspired motor as like a V-TEC"
he said :" V-TEC has 2 times the 'lag" of any turbo car he's driven because you gotta hit the 'v-tec range' in order any power to produce much like the turbo spool out"
I think he's a retard because I've driven both forced induction cars(both S/C and turbos) they don't have the bottom end responce like a N/A car.
what do you guys think
I said "the thing is with turbos no matter how much you perfect them they will never be as instant power as natural aspired motor as like a V-TEC"
he said :" V-TEC has 2 times the 'lag" of any turbo car he's driven because you gotta hit the 'v-tec range' in order any power to produce much like the turbo spool out"
I think he's a retard because I've driven both forced induction cars(both S/C and turbos) they don't have the bottom end responce like a N/A car.
what do you guys think
03-26-2005, 06:30 AM
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Its a moot point, the new VW turbo will be a direct inject turbo motor, and from what I am told it will be very difficult to get tuned like the old 1.8T. Anyone who thinks a 1.8T motor is the end all, has not had it long enough to experience the problems you will have; VW has been plagued with reliablity problems, in no short part due to the lovely 1.8T.
03-26-2005, 06:40 AM
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I actually feel dumber having read this thread. 
03-26-2005, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 1killercls
I actually feel dumber having read this thread.
SC cars have way more bottom end then N/A cars if it's a roots blower. And he's pretty dead on about the vtec lag, cars don't start making power till they hit the crossover, and that's usually not till let's say 5000 rpm. By then most turbo cars have hit full boost around 2,500-3,000 unless it's an oversized turbo, but it sounds like we are talking about stock cars.
and FYI, you need to stop posting for a few days, I never realized what an idiot you are (and that's comming from me)
This thread may be on par w/ your Lebron one, but I figure you'll post this and never come back
03-26-2005, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by anothercls
I keep clicking on his threads to see if I can even understand what he's trying to say half the time.
hahahahh thats the same thing i do!
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03-26-2005, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mystikk
Honda? Aren't they the cars with the hamster-powered engines?
Come on get serious, hamster-powered engines
this is a automotive enthusiast based site, don't bring those absent minded statements up in here. Everyone knows they use gerbil-powered engines 
03-26-2005, 04:23 PM
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and fyi, turbo technology has come a LONNGGG way lately, i've seen quite a few upgraded setups that achieve full boost before 2,000 rpm.
03-26-2005, 04:47 PM
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this is my personal thoughts I like the sounds of V-TEC vs turbo. plus (correct me if I'm wrong) can't you get more RPMs out a N/A motor vs a forced induction motor. look the S2000 you can get 10k rev out of that motor stock the next generation Civic Si you can get 8 k rev out of that motor stock, I don't know the kind of revs you can get out of a WRX Sti or new VW 1.8T GTI?but i highly doubt if it will hit the 8 or 10k mark.
03-26-2005, 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
^ thinking you are forgetting about the usable RPM range. Oh and torque 
and the initial statements he made in his thread
RPM range isn't nearly as important as gearing. Sure an S2K can rev to 10K which is awesome. But put it next to a turbo car which generally have wider gearing, they'll be shifting at the same point so the point is moot. But yes, in general turbo cars don't rev as high as N/A ones.
Once again, you just need to admit you've got no clue what you are talking about.
03-26-2005, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
Once again, you just need to admit you've got no clue what you are talking about.
03-27-2005, 01:50 AM
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okay my buddy with a 03 GTI 1.8 Turbo and I was argueing over which would be a better tuner hatch the next gen Civic Si or VW( I think its) 2.0 Turbo.
I said "the thing is with turbos no matter how much you perfect them they will never be as instant power as natural aspired motor as like a V-TEC"
he said :" V-TEC has 2 times the 'lag" of any turbo car he's driven because you gotta hit the 'v-tec range' in order any power to produce much like the turbo spool out"
I think he's a retard because I've driven both forced induction cars(both S/C and turbos) they don't have the bottom end responce like a N/A car.
what do you guys think
I said "the thing is with turbos no matter how much you perfect them they will never be as instant power as natural aspired motor as like a V-TEC"
he said :" V-TEC has 2 times the 'lag" of any turbo car he's driven because you gotta hit the 'v-tec range' in order any power to produce much like the turbo spool out"
I think he's a retard because I've driven both forced induction cars(both S/C and turbos) they don't have the bottom end responce like a N/A car.
what do you guys think
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03-27-2005, 02:23 AM
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For someone that is supposedly into autocross, and has supposedly driven so many different kinds of cars I wouldnt be expecting such a FUCKING IDIOTIC STATMENT.
please, for once just shut the fuck up.
please, for once just shut the fuck up.
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Originally Posted by vishnus11
which is why he said "correct me if im wrong..." So stop being a jackass and correct him.
I think I did
03-27-2005, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by sarlacc23
please, for once just shut the fuck up.
The best is, this guys dad works for honda (correct me if i'm wrong) and he apparently doesn't know how vtec works
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I don't
03-28-2005, 11:54 AM
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me either.
03-28-2005, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CLpower
SC cars have way more bottom end then N/A cars if it's a roots blower. And he's pretty dead on about the vtec lag, cars don't start making power till they hit the crossover, and that's usually not till let's say 5000 rpm. By then most turbo cars have hit full boost around 2,500-3,000 unless it's an oversized turbo, but it sounds like we are talking about stock cars.
Note: My first post outside Ramblings evar.
Now, Scott, I had no idea that you had the ability to carry on intelligent conversation using words I don't understand... I'm impressed, and slightly chastened.
What does crossover mean?
03-28-2005, 03:13 PM
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what are you chicks doing in here?
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I heard what a stupid thread this was, and wanted to see what the fuss was about.
03-28-2005, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Caliadria
Note: My first post outside Ramblings evar.
Now, Scott, I had no idea that you had the ability to carry on intelligent conversation using words I don't understand... I'm impressed, and slightly chastened.
What does crossover mean?
Now, Scott, I had no idea that you had the ability to carry on intelligent conversation using words I don't understand... I'm impressed, and slightly chastened.
What does crossover mean?
only when it comes to cars and weed babe, you know this
03-28-2005, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sarlacc23
For someone that is supposedly into autocross, and has supposedly driven so many different kinds of cars I wouldnt be expecting such a FUCKING IDIOTIC STATMENT.
please, for once just shut the fuck up.
please, for once just shut the fuck up.
. dude your a giant douche bag. 
03-29-2005, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Water-S
dude you need to shut the fuck up. In the last few post you've posted mean and unnnessary comments. if you don't like what i post then move on. I'm tired of your shit. what makes you god of Acurazine.com . dude your a giant douche bag.
. dude your a giant douche bag. 
by teh Water-S :gheylaugh:
03-29-2005, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Water-S
dude you need to shut the fuck up. In the last few post you've posted mean and unnnessary comments. if you don't like what i post then move on. I'm tired of your shit. what makes you god of Acurazine.com . dude your a giant douche bag.
. dude your a giant douche bag. I've said it before, you seem like a good stand up midwestern kid. But for fucks sake you need to learn to shorten your posts...and well post with some intelligence.
I am pleasantly surprised you didnt somehow manage to mention your accord with 275,000 miles on it in this thread...
But seriously, if you autocross so damn much, and driven so many different cars, then you know what you typed in this thread is crap. Silly crap at that.
Hell, I'm shocked I was finally able to get under your skin.
And btw, I have never denied being a douche bag, albeit a giant one
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03-29-2005, 12:17 PM
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