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Old 02-26-2010, 11:57 AM
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Utah Trying To Ban Aftermarket Exhausts



http://jalopnik.com/5481006/utah-try...arket-exhausts

The Utah Senate is trying to ban aftermarket exhausts with a bill as poorly worded as it is questionably reasoned. Don't they know loud pipes save lives?



Look, if a legislature wants to make bypassing a catalytic converter or otherwise disabling the environmental equipment illegal, that's fine, whatever.

Although it's sort of the point of this bill. Unfortunately, it uses language like:

"This bill provides that a motor vehicle shall be equipped with a muffler that: is installed by the original manufacturer of the vehicle and is not modified or meets specifications equivalent to the muffler installed by the original manufacturer of the vehicle and is not modified.
Yeah, okay, so let's trust the average Provo street cop to determine how your exhaust is similar or dissimilar to what the factory installed or if it increases performance in a way that improves mileage or detracts from it. Are you going to give them special training or equipment? Nope, there will be no money appropriated for anything related to this bill. It's bad regulation.

SEMA's political action arm is all over this, click here to find out how to contact your local Utah State Senator.
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My 5 wives are going to be pissed, they love my loud exhaust.
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Haven't they been trying to ban almost all aftermarket performance parts in that state for awhile now including high performance tires even? I think it was Utah.
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My 5 wives are going to be pissed, they love my loud exhaust.
Nice!
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My 5 wives are going to be pissed, they love my loud exhaust.


SEMA should be able to kill this. I won't worry too much about it.
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lmao dude that sucks. I would honestly move for that kind of reason. I'm starting to like Ohio more and more then it comes to modding, I hear soon they will stop caring about window tints and front plates. I already drive with no front plates and haven't been pulled over once.
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
SEMA should be able to kill this. I won't worry too much about it.


SEMA is usually all over stuff like this, and they have a pretty strong showing, especially when the attempts are with poorly worded and very vague bills...
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lmao dude that sucks. I would honestly move for that kind of reason. I'm starting to like Ohio more and more then it comes to modding, I hear soon they will stop caring about window tints and front plates. I already drive with no front plates and haven't been pulled over once.
I'm from Cincy and have never been pulled over for any of that, and my old CL had 80% tint lol, you couldn't see through for anything
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Originally Posted by iTimmy
My 5 wives are going to be pissed, they love my loud exhaust.
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$20 says the act was written by or approved by a Prius driver.
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Won't happen.
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Is there an administration in this country that is not bat shit crazy? The only thing they are good at doing is dreaming up new ways to steal our freedoms. Infuriating.
Fixed.

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$20 says the act was written by or approved by a Prius driver.
Probably.
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Originally Posted by i go to costco
$20 says the act was written by or approved by a mormon.
ftfy
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I'm from Cincy and have never been pulled over for any of that, and my old CL had 80% tint lol, you couldn't see through for anything
You sure about that? 80% means it lets in 80% of daylight and only blocks 20% of light. This means no one would be able to tell you had tints, maybe you had 20% tints
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Originally Posted by 1stgencl
you sure about that? 80% means it lets in 80% of daylight and only blocks 20% of light. This means no one would be able to tell you had tints, maybe you had 20% tints
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They should start with Harleys first.
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Another reason Utah sucks?
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Originally Posted by I Go To Costco
$20 says the act was written by or approved by a Prius driver.
What would that have to do with the purpose of the law?
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
They should start with Harleys first.
You know, I couldn't agree more. I don't understand how some of those Harleys aren't constantly pulled over. I find myself nearly jumping out of my car seat when they come gunning by me. Seriously obnoxious, and on top of it they love to rev them over and over.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
They should start with Harleys first.
With the wording of the bill (Utah S.B. 106) , I think Harleys are actually the main target. It definitely applies to motorcycles as well as cars, and we all know most aftermarket Harley pipes are monster loud.

S.B. 106 was introduced by Utah State Senator Patricia Jones, not entirely sure why. (pjones@utahsenate.org)

However, it has apparently been comprehensively amended to be largely toothless, looking more like a bid to knock out straight pipes instead of custom aftermarket muffled exhausts. Note this part of the amended bill -

provides that a motor vehicle shall be equipped with a muffler that:
15 . is installed by the original manufacturer of the vehicle and is not modified or
16 meets specifications equivalent to the muffler installed by the original
17 manufacturer of the vehicle and is not modified; and
18 . is in compliance with federal law


That says to me it has to be OEM or up to OEM standards, without doing something like gutting the internals or omitting the muffler altogether.

You see, although this somehow made it past the Utah Senate Transportation Committee (probably due to some pull by Senator Jones), the Senate itself should boot it out the door for essentially being unenforcable. Without a massive and expensive bureaucratic effort to create some kind of master list, there would be no way the street level peace officer would know which aftermarket exhausts are in compliance and which aren't.

With state budgets in shortfall and heavy pressure by business lobbies to keep regulations relaxed, I can't fathom the Utah legislature passing a bill that stifles an established business vertical AND adds big bureaucratic costs.

Move along folks, nothing to see here. This smacks of grandstanding by a state senator trying to show her constituents that she is "doing something". No way this becomes law.

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Originally Posted by subinf
What would that have to do with the purpose of the law?
It was really tongue-in-cheek but someone who would propose such an act probably doesn't have a cell of car-enthusiasm in them, and IMO (and many others' opinions) the Prius is the epitome of a boremobile. Thus, such a bill would not affect that legislator in the least, and at the same time they probably wouldn't understand the purpose of an aftermarket exhaust system in the first place.... befitting, since they most likely wouldn't want one on their Prius



Though to add, the post above me highlights why this bill is bull very well
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Originally Posted by 1StGenCL
You sure about that? 80% means it lets in 80% of daylight and only blocks 20% of light. This means no one would be able to tell you had tints, maybe you had 20% tints
My local tint shop does things backwards, so yes 20% to everyone else is what it would be.
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