stangg172004

This is a hypothetical...

So you have a car with the name X on the title but the car is not his/hers, he/she gave it as a gift to lets say a spouse or brother or any relative, person Y. The car is Y's, he/she drives it everyday, and has all the sets of keys to it and person also Y has the title, its in their possession, but the name X is on it. Can person Y legally sell the car without his consent?

Yumcha

You lost me at his/her.

fast-tl

The answer is NO. I translated for you. (see above) If they GAVE the car as a gift, ownership is transferred via title. I may "give" my son the TL when he drives, but until I change the title, the car BELONGS to me.

Crazy Bimmer

No, Person (Y) cant sell the car unless person (X)signs the title over to person (Y)

artbran

iTrader: (2)

Uhh... those damn math questions... Haha

gocubsgo55

unless there is a co-signer (which there probably is not), the title is all that of X. A new title must be purchased if Y intends on becoming an owner. An example; I own my car, it is in my name. In order for me to be under my parents' insurance policy, they must own the car, which they do not despite being my care-takers for the past 18+ years.

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

But wait.....is the car on a conveyor belt?

mrdeeno

let's say that person X SIGNS (and notarizes) the title and gives to person Y, who does not do a transfer to his name yet. This means the title remains "open".

2 legit things can occur:

1) Person Y is a licensed dealer and sell the car, transferring the title from person X to person Z.

2) Person X and Y are in different states...person Y has 30 days to transfer the "open" title into his name and state.

Of course option 2 leaves a lot of "holes"...even without a dealer license, person Y can sell the car and transfer the title from X to Z. The only thing to watch out for is if the state collects sales tax during transfer/registration and the tax amount is "questionable", they'll question person X...which may unravel the whole scheme.

if the title in the name of X is not signed off by X, then there's no deal...it still belongs to X.

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

Yeah answer is no. I've done this many times.
1 - X would have to sign over the title to Y & then Y will need to transfer it to their name. He then will get a new title in his name, & then he can sell it to whoever.
2 - have X sign over the title to the new buyer, & not have Y involved at all.
3 - If the title was signed over to Y & he never got a new title in their name, he must either do that first since you can't sign over a title to 2 different people, or go to DMV with all 3 parties & fill out forms with the proper paperwork to trasfer ownership.

fast-tl

What's the REAL situation? You can tell US....

GreenMonster

NO.

Either Y has to get the title in their name or Y has to pretend to be X and forge X's name on the title. As long as X doesn't care, it shouldn't matter, as long as the DMV doesn't have record of Y owning the car...

How the fuck would Y be driving the car in the first place without having a title in their name ??

You usually have to have proof of ownership to get it insured/registered, unless X is still on the registration and is insuring it for Y...

Usually all it takes to clean up the mess is a couple hundred dollars (at most) and a few hours at the DMV...

mr.motoring

Assuming 'X' is male as the letter 'X' sounds masculine:

Who's the bi*ch who names their son 'X'?

Translation: What son of a bi*ch is named 'X'?

stangg172004

me and my friend were discussing this and we weren't sure...

mrdeeno

the only scenario i could think of that makes a little sense is that X is the parent and gives Y the car, but keeps it registered and insured in X's name because it would cost to much to insure in only Y's name.

But because X "gave" the car to Y, he also gave Y the title to make Y feel that he is the owner. But X is afraid that Y, being young and naive or in a deep amount of shit or needing cash, or hooked up with the wrong girl or guy or whatever, wants to sell it to Z against' X's wishes.

Or X and Y are married or a couple and are on the way to splitsville, and Y has a hold of the title and the car which are in X's name and X has a feeling that Y wants to sell the car to spite him.

otherwise, why would anyone who gave a spouse or kid or significant other the "use" of a car worry about that person selling it?

but anyway, there's no "legit" way to do it...but if you know the right people...for example if you live in a state where a notary can do the transfer and you are "friends" with the notary, there's ways to do it.