Television: Top Gear (UK) News and Discussion Thread
10-03-2005, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadzilla
I wish they had gotten a track time for that Ariel Atom thing from last week's show....I couldn't believe it beat the crotch rocket around the track by 4 seconds!!!
They did, I think it was second to the Enzo.
10-03-2005, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by JesusJuice
But is it drivable? hell a Mclaren only has 627 hp but is designed for a track and will eat something with twice horsepower.
Edit: Damn you CLPower
Edit: Damn you CLPower
When it was built, they said it'd be able to beat 7:30 around the ring. Insider info has it that their best time is just a little less then a minute slower then that.
10-03-2005, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadzilla
I wish they had gotten a track time for that Ariel Atom thing from last week's show....I couldn't believe it beat the crotch rocket around the track by 4 seconds!!!
10-03-2005, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Why can't you share it with the board?
I was asked nicely not to reveal most of the info I was told
Let's put it this way. The car is going to be a bitchin GT car, but it won't be the "super car" it was supposed to be. It'll still go like fucking lightning though
10-03-2005, 10:12 AM
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Why don't they test the cars with the same conditions on that show? Sometimes they test cars around the track in the rain which seems highly unfair to me. They should also do perhaps 5 laps around the track and take the average of the 5 laps or the best time, etc. Seems like too much error is involved on a single lap course.
10-03-2005, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
i dont understand why use times for cars that drive on the track when it is wet
they have to run them when they have them
10-03-2005, 10:23 AM
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A lot of those cars are borrowed
I still dont see why they never tested the Mclaren...I am guessing they were afraid of
crashing it if they pushed it too hard like the time they clipped the tires driving that ferrari.
10-03-2005, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by JesusJuice
A lot of those cars are borrowed
I still dont see why they never tested the Mclaren...I am guessing they were afraid of
crashing it if they pushed it too hard like the time they clipped the tires driving that ferrari.
The show wasn't around when the Mclaren came out. Remember Tiff ended up doing it for his old show.
10-03-2005, 10:29 AM
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Seems as though a maserati bested the enzo....
1st Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
2nd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
3rd Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
4th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
5th Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/
1st Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
2nd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
3rd Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
4th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
5th Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/
10-03-2005, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BadBadNeil
Seems as though a maserati bested the enzo....
1st Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
2nd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
3rd Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
4th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
5th Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/
1st Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
2nd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
3rd Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
4th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
5th Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/
Maserati DBR9- 1:08.6
10-03-2005, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BadBadNeil
Seems as though a maserati bested the enzo....
1st Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
2nd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
3rd Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
4th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
5th Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/
1st Maserati MC12 - 1.18.9
2nd Ferrari F60 Enzo - 1.19.0
3rd Ariel Atom - 1.19.5
4th Porsche Carerra GT - 1.19.8
5th Mercedes McLaren SLR - 1.20.9
http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/powerlaps/
Good find
10-03-2005, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bdog
^^
Maserati DBR9- 1:08.6
Maserati DBR9- 1:08.6
We only list road-going cars, so the F1 car (0.59.0), Aston Martin DBR9 (1.08.6) and Sea Harrier (0.31.2) are not on the board.
10-03-2005, 10:42 AM
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http://www.maserati-indy.co.uk/alfieri147.htm
It's actually tacky and sexy at the same time. I can't figure it out.
It's actually tacky and sexy at the same time. I can't figure it out.
10-03-2005, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JimmyCarter
http://www.maserati-indy.co.uk/alfieri147.htm
It's actually tacky and sexy at the same time. I can't figure it out.
It's actually tacky and sexy at the same time. I can't figure it out.
^ Looks like Hot Wheels
10-03-2005, 10:46 AM
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Why did they test the Aston Martin DBR9 (not a Maserati as I stated) and said you can't buy one, but you can buy a DBRS9 that only 50 or so hp different than the R version? Why didn't they just test the S then?
10-03-2005, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bdog
Why did they test the Aston Martin DBR9 (not a Maserati as I stated) and said you can't buy one, but you can buy a DBRS9 that only 50 or so hp different than the R version? Why didn't they just test the S then?
Oh, I know the answer!
relax bro
10-03-2005, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dom
Hope they test the new Z06 which is supposed to be quicker around the Ring than the SLR.
Don't get me wrong, I love Top Gear and the power lap times. I'm just saying that they may not be entirely indicitive of a car's ability around a proper track.
10-03-2005, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by kurt_bradley
The trouble with some track testing is that different cars are suited to different tracks. While they may put up serious numbers on the 'Ring, they may not excell on the Top Gear track. It's a short, tight course that doesn't truly allow some cars to demonstrate their true worth.
Don't get me wrong, I love Top Gear and the power lap times. I'm just saying that they may not be entirely indicitive of a car's ability around a proper track.
Don't get me wrong, I love Top Gear and the power lap times. I'm just saying that they may not be entirely indicitive of a car's ability around a proper track.
the top gear course isn't really a tight track
That said, I think it's a pretty fair track, sure some will have an advantage, but it's got a little bit of a lot
10-03-2005, 11:23 AM
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We only list road-going cars, so the F1 car (0.59.0), Aston Martin DBR9 (1.08.6) and Sea Harrier (0.31.2) are not on the board.
10-03-2005, 01:42 PM
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I think it is here http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/ see where it says "stig dies".
10-03-2005, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BadBadNeil
I think it is here http://www.bbc.co.uk/topgear/downloads/ see where it says "stig dies".
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10-03-2005, 02:10 PM
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Why does anyone pay attention to their numbers? they don't test the cars scientifically. Look at the data you are presented...
1/2 of the times up there are when it was raining or the track was totally wet...
As such the numbers do not represent anything in terms of a comparison... you have wet and dry track times mixed together.
Why does anyone pay attention to their numbers? they don't test the cars scientifically. Look at the data you are presented...
1/2 of the times up there are when it was raining or the track was totally wet...
As such the numbers do not represent anything in terms of a comparison... you have wet and dry track times mixed together.
10-03-2005, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SiGGy
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Why does anyone pay attention to their numbers? they don't test the cars scientifically. Look at the data you are presented...
1/2 of the times up there are when it was raining or the track was totally wet...
As such the numbers do not represent anything in terms of a comparison... you have wet and dry track times mixed together.
Why does anyone pay attention to their numbers? they don't test the cars scientifically. Look at the data you are presented...
1/2 of the times up there are when it was raining or the track was totally wet...
As such the numbers do not represent anything in terms of a comparison... you have wet and dry track times mixed together.
I would at least like to be consistent as far as the dryness of the track is concerned. If they are not, then they shouldnt put up the comparision on the wall like they always do.
10-03-2005, 02:36 PM
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I would at least like to be consistent as far as the dryness of the track is concerned. If they are not, then they shouldnt put up the comparision on the wall like they always do.
Top Gear had initially attempted to have the track wet all the time, independent of the weather, however their sprinkler system mechanics were only able to place "a few strategic puddles" so they abandoned the idea. When they do race a car in the wet, the make it a point to put a (W) by the time and tell the view that it should be around 3-4 seconds faster in the dry. So you really can't fault them for having to run in the wet, since it rains almost everyday in England (or so I've heard).