Midnight Mystery's Honda Accord Thread
05-28-2019, 10:13 AM
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Well, it's not as if I trapped the TL and Accord next to one another to measure a half second difference. I was simply pleasantly surprised that a relatively inexpensive family sedan would pick up like it did.
05-28-2019, 10:24 AM
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Agreed, V6 Accords, starting with the 6th Gen cars, regardless of transmission type, are all pretty quick.
05-28-2019, 10:31 AM
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The 7G Accord V6 is a good car, it's lighter and more peppy than the 3G TL. Is it a better/faster/more comfortable car? No. But it certainly feels more light on its feet.
FWIW, we had auto versions of both.
FWIW, we had auto versions of both.
05-28-2019, 10:46 AM
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As for being more peppy, I'm finding that hard to believe, I have quite a number of neighbors and coworkers with Gen7 V6 Accords, and they are all stunned at how much quicker and more responsive my TL is in comparison.
05-28-2019, 11:07 AM
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Hmmm, which auto version of the 3G TL, the softly sprung 2007-2008 models or the stiffer sprung 2004-2006 models?
As for being more peppy, I'm finding that hard to believe, I have quite a number of neighbors and coworkers with Gen7 V6 Accords, and they are all stunned at how much quicker and more responsive my TL is in comparison.
As for being more peppy, I'm finding that hard to believe, I have quite a number of neighbors and coworkers with Gen7 V6 Accords, and they are all stunned at how much quicker and more responsive my TL is in comparison.
The TL is quicker and more responsive but the Accord just feels lighter even though it's not at all faster in actuality. Just how the S2000 feels like it's going 100mph when it's actually going 60mph while the Golf is the exact opposite. Not sure what to tell you, just my opinion on the matter.
05-28-2019, 11:42 AM
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I had a 2007 Accord V6 and a 2008 TL type S.
The TL is quicker and more responsive but the Accord just feels lighter even though it's not at all faster in actuality. Just how the S2000 feels like it's going 100mph when it's actually going 60mph while the Golf is the exact opposite. Not sure what to tell you, just my opinion on the matter.
The TL is quicker and more responsive but the Accord just feels lighter even though it's not at all faster in actuality. Just how the S2000 feels like it's going 100mph when it's actually going 60mph while the Golf is the exact opposite. Not sure what to tell you, just my opinion on the matter.
05-28-2019, 12:18 PM
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05-28-2019, 12:18 PM
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05-28-2019, 12:30 PM
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05-28-2019, 12:48 PM
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The only 7G AV6 that wins over the 3G TL is the CPE EX-L V6 6MT
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05-28-2019, 01:52 PM
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Hmmm, which auto version of the 3G TL, the softly sprung 2007-2008 models or the stiffer sprung 2004-2006 models?
As for being more peppy, I'm finding that hard to believe, I have quite a number of neighbors and coworkers with Gen7 V6 Accords, and they are all stunned at how much quicker and more responsive my TL is in comparison.
As for being more peppy, I'm finding that hard to believe, I have quite a number of neighbors and coworkers with Gen7 V6 Accords, and they are all stunned at how much quicker and more responsive my TL is in comparison.
I test drove a 7G gen Accord with the V6 and 6MT and was pleasantly surprised as well. It wasn't in the best shape but wow, it really moved. The transmission wasn't quite what I was used to coming from the 3G - longer throw and the clutch was less sensitive but it was still nice. Unfortunately, I was used to the creature comforts of the 3G TL by that point and it just didn't meet that standard but it was definitely a match in terms of performance.
I ended up going with a 2007 TSX AT which was still a step down but better than the Accord IMO. Have you test driven the 1G TSX? It's a pretty nice car. The K24 is a peppy engine, especially at higher RPM's. The TSX's 0-60 is only about 1 second shorter than the 7G Accord V6. It might be worth a try. It's slightly smaller than the 7G in terms of width and length but it's very nimble and super reliable. And prices are pretty good at this point being that it's a 10+ year old car. The only exception is the AC compressor in the 2004-2006. There is a higher than average failure rate on those. But they fixed it in the 2007-2008.
I ended up going with a 2007 TSX AT which was still a step down but better than the Accord IMO. Have you test driven the 1G TSX? It's a pretty nice car. The K24 is a peppy engine, especially at higher RPM's. The TSX's 0-60 is only about 1 second shorter than the 7G Accord V6. It might be worth a try. It's slightly smaller than the 7G in terms of width and length but it's very nimble and super reliable. And prices are pretty good at this point being that it's a 10+ year old car. The only exception is the AC compressor in the 2004-2006. There is a higher than average failure rate on those. But they fixed it in the 2007-2008.
And I really just don't want another I4. I'm on the highway a lot, and don't want to be revving 2.5K rpms just to keep 70 mph.
05-28-2019, 03:20 PM
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05-28-2019, 03:57 PM
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I enjoyed my ownership of the 7G 6MT Coupe .. especially as I started tacking on mods.
TL is a bit heavier, Accords have a little less displacement.
At the end of the day, we're arguing about cars that make a little over 200 to the wheels and are over 10 years old ...
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TL is a bit heavier, Accords have a little less displacement.
At the end of the day, we're arguing about cars that make a little over 200 to the wheels and are over 10 years old ...
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05-28-2019, 03:59 PM
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05-29-2019, 02:12 AM
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05-29-2019, 02:15 AM
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My Optima turns about 2100 at 70... The RDX turns about 2350 at 70... I really want something that turns about 1750 at 70, or so...
I hear a J30 wont turn 3K rpm until about 90 or so, and I'll never be going that fast...
05-29-2019, 04:10 AM
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As for a J30 turning 3K and 90, no, not a chance.
05-29-2019, 05:29 AM
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05-29-2019, 07:03 AM
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05-29-2019, 07:47 AM
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Exactly what benefit do you think a low-revving engine will provide versus an engine which revs at say, 2500 at freeway speeds?
05-29-2019, 09:06 AM
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I'm not sure you know what you're talking about.
If I'm going to take you seriously/literally you should buy a diesel and not a V6.
05-29-2019, 10:11 AM
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I suppose it depends on what you're concerned about as far as RPM's at higher speeds. If it's engine noise; I don't notice much of a difference between 5th and 6th when at freeway speeds. At 70MPH, I'm at about 2200 RPM in 6th and 2900 RPM in 5th. If it weren't for the exhaust tone (which is only noticeable since exhaust mods) I'm not sure I'd even notice. I usually have the car in manual mode and sometimes forget to upshift to 6th on the highway. I'll go 10 miles before I realize I'm still in 5th at 75 MPH. And if you're concerned about MPG, the parasitic loss between a few hundred RPM isn't going to be too significant. Certainly not as significant as the parasitic loss of having two extra cylinders even if they're at a lower RPM.
Buuuuut - if you want the power then go for the V6. I really enjoyed the K24 in the TSX though. And test driving the S2K with the F20 was a blast. I think Honda's high-strung I-4's are fun. But if that's not your thing, then go for the J.
Buuuuut - if you want the power then go for the V6. I really enjoyed the K24 in the TSX though. And test driving the S2K with the F20 was a blast. I think Honda's high-strung I-4's are fun. But if that's not your thing, then go for the J.
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05-29-2019, 10:21 AM
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05-29-2019, 10:32 AM
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I don't understand (hell, maybe I'm not supposed to); first you say, "I really want something that turns about 1750 at 70, or so...", then you seem to indicate you want a car with a J-Series engine (presumably your Gen7 Accord Dream Car) which will turn about 2000 rpms at 70.
The reality is, if you want a car which turns 1750 at 70, go buy a Corvette with an automatic transmission.
The reality is, if you want a car which turns 1750 at 70, go buy a Corvette with an automatic transmission.
05-29-2019, 12:51 PM
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I don't understand (hell, maybe I'm not supposed to); first you say, "I really want something that turns about 1750 at 70, or so...", then you seem to indicate you want a car with a J-Series engine (presumably your Gen7 Accord Dream Car) which will turn about 2000 rpms at 70.
The reality is, if you want a car which turns 1750 at 70, go buy a Corvette with an automatic transmission.
The reality is, if you want a car which turns 1750 at 70, go buy a Corvette with an automatic transmission.
I think I was being over dramatic... 2k rpm at 70 is good... I'll be fine with that...
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05-29-2019, 01:02 PM
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