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Old 05-14-2004, 02:50 PM
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SHAWD Video via honda in English

http://www.world.honda.com/HDTV/news/2004-4040401a/
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Cool, but...


How is this different then an AWD system with an LSD at the rear axle?

Our Subaru has this set up already, and I think a lot of the better AWD systems have it. On our subie, for instance, front to rear torque is variable through as is side to side torque.

SH-AWD looks like a marketing slant to describe a limited slip differential on a variable torque AWD system.

Again, I think it's cool, but I'm not seeing how this is a redefining moment for automobiles.

(and 'Super Handling' sounds silly, but typically Japanese)
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because mechanical LSD is dumb....this system is smart. You'll get mad understeer in most AWD cars on dry pavement.

Moreover, this splits trq front to back and side to side based on conditions and driver input. It's an active system.

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Cool, but...


How is this different then an AWD system with an LSD at the rear axle?

Our Subaru has this set up already, and I think a lot of the better AWD systems have it. On our subie, for instance, front to rear torque is variable through as is side to side torque.

SH-AWD looks like a marketing slant to describe a limited slip differential on a variable torque AWD system.

Again, I think it's cool, but I'm not seeing how this is a redefining moment for automobiles.

(and 'Super Handling' sounds silly, but typically Japanese)
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because mechanical LSD is dumb....this system is smart. You'll get mad understeer in most AWD cars on dry pavement.

Moreover, this splits trq front to back and side to side based on conditions and driver input. It's an active system.
OK, then it sounds even cooler.

My attention span is too short to sit though the whole video.
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Originally posted by Slimey
OK, then it sounds even cooler.

My attention span is too short to sit though the whole video.

aehaeh atleast that's my understanding of it...............
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OK. I was thinking about this on the drive home.

I understand (or at least at a rudimentary level) how an LSD works and what you mean by 'dumb'. It's a mechanical device that responds to wheel slip, or asymmetry in traction (resistance) across the axle.

What mean you then by 'smart'? How does the driver control this except by throttle position?

Once again, going back to what I know a little about, our Subaru has electronically variable torque that changes with slippage and throttle position and I'm trying to figure out how the new Honda system is different.
http://www.subaru.com/allwheeldrive/middle.jsp?pageID=2
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It sounds good but I think they are trying to market it like no one else has this when it sounds exactly the same as the active yaw control on the jdm evo.




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that was nice as hell
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It sounds good but I think they are trying to market it like no one else has this when it sounds exactly the same as the active yaw control on the jdm evo.




That's what I was thinking, more marketing then innovation.

Not to say it's not pretty cool.
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Originally posted by Slimey
OK. I was thinking about this on the drive home.

I understand (or at least at a rudimentary level) how an LSD works and what you mean by 'dumb'. It's a mechanical device that responds to wheel slip, or asymmetry in traction (resistance) across the axle.

What mean you then by 'smart'? How does the driver control this except by throttle position?

Once again, going back to what I know a little about, our Subaru has electronically variable torque that changes with slippage and throttle position and I'm trying to figure out how the new Honda system is different.
http://www.subaru.com/allwheeldrive/middle.jsp?pageID=2

Watch the video again it'll explain it better than I can. It takes input from a variety of sources.
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I'm just glad Honda/Acura is finally coming out with AWD cars.
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Now RL is not a FWD anymore... reviewers... will still bitch about what other than... it is underpowered!... V6!
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