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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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Well they tried sticking them onto the hood then on the roof but it didn't look right.
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 05:00 PM
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Lexus is puting LED strips in the headlights too for 2011 or 2012
Already did a while ago with the LS hybrid.



Well they're low-beam headlights, but still.

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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Yeah that is a bummer that they're not stock. This is stock...double fog lights.

double fogs are ugly... I was like

LEDs are like halos... everyone has them...not everyone should...
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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Erm....pardon me 'gents but I think those might be the turn signals. Not sure why they'd be white in the photo (thought the law for front turn signals was amber) but I don't really see any other place they could be. There certainly isn't room on the edges.....

Just an observation.
nope. that's just led strip.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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now one area where I'd really like MB to copy Audi is interior design.

The new CL's interior is no doubt plush with all the leather wrapped surfaces, but this is just ugly.

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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 12:24 AM
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 12:49 AM
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The reason it's ugly is because of the wood trim on the lower part of the steering wheel. Looks extremely luxurious and pure otherwise- what Mercedes-Benz is know for. Audi's interiors are more modern/sport-oriented, IMO. And then BMW falls somewhere between.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 12:51 AM
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Bimmer interiors are as well.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by princelybug
Bimmer interiors are as well.
Yeah I've never really been wild about them. My dad had two E46 BMWs (330ci, M3) and the interiors were just meh. Very simple. They've come a long way though- the new 7 and 5's interiors are beautiful.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 01:52 AM
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Germans are all about functionality and efficiency which is why their interiors lack the warmth that you get with the Japanese offerings like the LS.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by princelybug
Bimmer interiors are as well.
I've really started to warm up to the most recent iterations of it.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by phile
I agree it is copycat, but I'm all for LEDs in headlights and taillights. I hope Acura catches on soon. They still can't seem to figure out the tailights...half of their products have LED taillights (TL, RL, MDX) and half don't (TSX, RDX, ZDX). WTF Acura?

Besides, MB was first (I believe) with the side mirror turn signals, now a lot of cars are doing it too.
Also true for Honda, the 7G Accord had LED tail lights and the 8G went back to light bulbs. The current Civic uses a lens design that makes it look like individual LED's where it's really a light bulb.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 01:51 PM
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It's Mercedes' new thing. Yes it is a fog light.


Saw this in person on the highway today. They are actually DRL's and the looked weird as hell due to the curve in them. Would have been perfect if they were straight across.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
Saw this in person on the highway today. They are actually DRL's and the looked weird as hell due to the curve in them. Would have been perfect if they were straight across.
Yeah they're bright as HELL too. Good god they grab your attention.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 02:39 PM
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I don't know how to describe them other than .
I agree. When I saw that in person I was like WT...
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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I also belong to a Infiniti FX forum and we have a bunch of European members there.... to my understanding, I guess they've passed some kinda of law where by a certain (model) year, ALL cars in Europe are suppose to have LED lights (I guess for safety reasons), kinda like how at one time a lot cars here in America had day time running lights? I guess it's the reason why it seems like everyone's jumping on the band wagon

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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Saab has something similar as well above the headlights.

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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 05:59 PM
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Im surprised no one mention that this isnt called a CL anymore but the E-Class coupe instead.

Originally Posted by phile
i think it's just a styling element (which begs the question where are the fog lights?).

The Ford Taurus has something similar too.


I think they are only on when the headlights are activated though.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Im surprised no one mention that this isnt called a CL anymore but the E-Class coupe instead.
because it's not. This is...

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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424
Im surprised no one mention that this isnt called a CL anymore but the E-Class coupe instead.
That's the CLK that the E coupe replaced.
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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because it's not. This is...

Sooooo Sexy
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Old Jul 5, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Were they straight across they would not be as good looking. I love the Hockey Sticks.
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Manufacturers "borrow" styling cues from each other all of the time. I personally do not have a problem with this...

I'd say shame on the American public for buying cars which all look very similar to each other. Instead of supporting the companies with unique designs, they're fine with each manufacturer creating vehicles which are similar to one and other...
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by aznboi2424

I think they are only on when the headlights are activated though.
they serve as DRL's, the headlights don't need to be on
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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LEDs in headlights work on Audi cars, that's about it, imo.
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cjTL
That's the CLK that the E coupe replaced.
my fault.
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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S class is so boss!
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mmafighta
S class is so boss!
I'd hope so...a fully loaded S-class is in the $120,000 range.
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Old Jul 6, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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my friend has the new e class, to me it look good, he has the lip kit that makes it look super mean
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by phile
I agree it is copycat, but I'm all for LEDs in headlights and taillights. I hope Acura catches on soon. They still can't seem to figure out the tailights...half of their products have LED taillights (TL, RL, MDX) and half don't (TSX, RDX, ZDX). WTF Acura?

Besides, MB was first (I believe) with the side mirror turn signals, now a lot of cars are doing it too.
What is funny is the last gen Accord ended with LED tail lights and the current Accord went back to bulbs, go figure!
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 08:09 AM
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^ that's nothing new with Honda/Acura. Integra went from having projector headlights to halogen headlights when the RDX replaced it. ZDX, their formal entry into tier 1 territory, does not come with LED rear lights. But the MDX does, and they share the same platform.

It's this type of mismanagement that's preventing Acura from even catching up with the other luxury players. someone should be overseeing that all their vehicles have some kind of continuity.

But to be fair, LED taillights are an option on the Mercedes M Class! I didn't know they came with those until I saw one the other day and I thought it was a refreshed model. but a quick look on the MB website shows the LED package as an option.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by phile
But to be fair, LED taillights are an option on the Mercedes M Class! I didn't know they came with those until I saw one the other day and I thought it was a refreshed model. but a quick look on the MB website shows the LED package as an option.
Yup kind of ridiculous, eh? And also ridiculous is that xenon headlights are optional on the C, E, ML, GL, R, and SLK classes. Optional!

My mom's C350 doesn't have them. Standard old nasty yellow light.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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Yup kind of ridiculous, eh? And also ridiculous is that xenon headlights are optional on the C, E, ML, GL, R, and SLK classes. Optional!

My mom's C350 doesn't have them. Standard old nasty yellow light.
Yeah, paying for a luxury brand car should include that type of thing. I also think that cars, especially luxury brand cars, should start using glass again for the headlamp housings. This crystal plastic crap is low budget. It works, but glass would be much more durable and would exude quality.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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If MB, BMW, or Audi made everything standard the cars would all be 10-15k more expensive. MB sales were up 13% last month I'd say they know what they're doing.

Having everything standard w/Acura sure hasn't helped them has it? They even make a mooch model RDX 2WD because they realize most people only care about the starting price.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:49 PM
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LEDs in headlights work on Audi cars, that's about it, imo.
Funny you say that, my one problem with Audi LEDs, is the amount of Audis I see with one side out(broken). I've seen a LOT if them
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:21 PM
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Funny you say that, my one problem with Audi LEDs, is the amount of Audis I see with one side out(broken). I've seen a LOT if them
I thought the same but that was because most of the time I'd see them from the front they were turning, and if they have the turn signal on the LED strip turns off and blinks with the turn signal.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Myxomatosis
Funny you say that, my one problem with Audi LEDs, is the amount of Audis I see with one side out(broken). I've seen a LOT if them
This is a serious question, but were you looking at the Audi straight-on? Because their LEDs are set in somehow and play weird tricks when you look at them from the side. I can see how one would think one side is burnt out when they don't see the car from straight ahead. LEDs have a relatively low failure rate.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 11:39 PM
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If you look at an LED from the side it will look like it's burned out. When used as DRLs, they only need to be seen head on, not from the side.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by cjTL
This is a serious question, but were you looking at the Audi straight-on? Because their LEDs are set in somehow and play weird tricks when you look at them from the side. I can see how one would think one side is burnt out when they don't see the car from straight ahead. LEDs have a relatively low failure rate.
LED's have a low failure rate, but sometimes the electronics that power them are not as good. My in-laws had a Cadillac DHS, and a rear LED brake/turn signal/tail light module failed. It was big sub-assembly behind the lenses, I'm guessing the circuit that drives the ~20 red LED's failed since all the LED's stopped working. ~$300 ($200 for the module and $100 for the labor) under warranty. It was also the lowest level of component that could be replaced so one couldn't just replace the electronic power controller. My father in law was still lamenting what was so wrong with a $1 dual filament 2057 light bulb that the owner could change. My father in law reminded me of how I told him all the advantages of auto LED's were fast turn-on, monotonic light, long life

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