Moog-Type-S

Golf R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On The Run

If you can swing the Golf R, I'd go Golf R. Beats the pants off any MINI in my mind.

Saintor

It has been suggested in other threads; wait for GTI VII. It is just around the corner.

batman

300 hp R would be the heat. If is starts at a lower rpm.

I Just hit 1000 miles in my R. Dont have any glaring complaints. Wish the power came on a little earlier. I do wish that VW would have left a few things in from the euro version. I have been getting around 21 mpg. Thats going to get lower because I cant drive slow.

Overall its a great DD. If we got the DSG it would be perfect. I haven't DD a manual since 07 so it taking a bit to get used to.

If you get one take the soundaktor if the PO hasn't.

charliemike

Golf R is my choice. The 328i is way too much money after you add in the costs for the lease acquisition plus the cost differential.

charliemike

The whosiwhat?

batman

VWs sound generator/replicator. Worthless junk that imitates engine noise.

ZhenyaF

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I say option 1 if possible

crazyasiantl

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I'm sticking with Golf R

phee

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i voted R but the c30 is a VERY CLOSE SECONDD. i saw an evolve the other day and CMP'd

phee

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v6cord2k5

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Golf R



dafuq? Are you serious?

Aman

R.

Moose Muscles

Ttrs...

C30

civicdrivr

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A lot of new cars are doing this, even my FR-S has it It will be deleted when I get a proper intake and exhaust, but for now, its the easiest way of knowing how high in the RPM range I am without looking at the gauges.


I still vote R. But I do like C30s with mods.

neuronbob

Of your choices, I'd go with the Golf R. My reasoning:

You go through cars pretty quickly, so 22 months should be enough time to get your fun out of it.

You won't be bored in it.

The price is right.

So how much would you have to pay in NY taxes to get it?

dallison

golf

Saintor

Another potential choice is the new A3, which you'll miss by a few months.

mrmako

The A3 will probably run a good $3-5K more, and not be 300 HP.

I say R first and a modded C30 second, just to be different.

Steven Bell

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Please...not a Mini-anything but a Mini.


Oh, and please not a Volvo either.....



....so not a Mini, OR a Volvo.

Shoofin

I like the GTI MKVI...I could always get the VII after this if I liked it as well. It's not coming out soon enough for me to consider it. Plus it more than likely will not lease well as a new model.

I forgot what it was about the A3, but If I recall, you can't get an A3 in 6MT and AWD. If I ever considered an Audi product, I would get it with Quattro and 6MT...No Quattro, no deal.

It doesn't have enough trunk space for my liking without folding the rear seats down, and I don't want to be driving with the seats down every day. I also sat in a 6MT at the NY Auto Show, I couldn't get the car in 5th or 6th if my life depended on it. Shifter sucks, not enough space, no deal.

Why? Have you ever driven one?

I had my GTI for 24 months and missed it. Felt like I compromised when I got the Mini. Took me a while to really LIKE the MINI the same way I felt about the GTI. That said, a 36 month lease wouldn't bother me, especially if it was a Golf R/GTI. The price might be right for the R, but it's even better on the GTI. I mean $100/month less for a GTI is significant. As far as the taxes, on the R, I would guess maybe around $900 or so, plus the transfer fee, plus re-registering it. Figure probably around $1,500 in total fees, being generous in that amount. I don't think I would be bored in any of the cars I am considering though.

Another factor to consider, I register my personal work car/DD under my dealer policy. I don't pay extra insurance for having it on the policy. It gets added to my inventory and the cost of the car subtracted from the total coverage for my inventory (E.G. Policy covers $200k in inventory, the car costs, say, $30k, so with my DD added to my insurance as inventory, I now have $170k of coverage remaining). If I lease any of these cars new, I can put an application in under my company and me as Guarantor. Once approved I can register/insure it under my company.
With VW, when assuming a lease, the person who is currently leasing it becomes the co-signer, and the person (in this case, me) assuming the lease becomes the main applicant. Between my buddy who is leasing it and me, it's not a problem, he trusts me, so no worries there. With that said, if I assume the lease, I may have to register the car personally, as VW may not allow a company lease and PG if it is already leased in someone personally. Have to look into this, but if I can't register the car under my company, that means an extra $1,800/yr in insurance I would have to pay out of pocket to insure it personally. NY sucks like that. Insurance it ridiculously expensive here.

The best value for my dollar is leasing a new GTI, MSRP around $31k. If it was up to the wife, she's all for low payment, GTI wins. The way I see it, if I have to spend, say $420/month for the Golf R which is MSRP'd around $36k, and like $450 for the Mini MSRP'd at around $35k, at that point I'd rather spend the extra money and get a BMW for around $500/month, with a $50k MSRP.

Shoofin

FWIW, I like this car a LOT....If the Turbo had more than 201HP and the shnoz redesigned a little better, I'd be all over this..

neuronbob

I am super-glad I don't live in NY. Registering a car in Ohio is dirt cheap, no inspections other than smog inspections every two years (and the inspections are "free"....we the taxpayers pay for them).

Anyhoo, your logic is sound, Eddie. GTI away! It's a great car.

PS: I like the style of the Veloster, too. It reminds me of a 70's Honda Civic. I LOVE those and my dad owned one when I was a kid. As for the Veloster, it looks fast but isn't--what a bummer.

Shoofin

Still undecided, unfortunately, though..

Aman

Really? I was pleasantly surprised by the 6MT when I tried the C30. Short enough throws and great feel. IMO it wouldn't be too out of place in a Honda.

Shoofin

Did you take it to 5th or 6th? I mean I was sitting on the auto show floor, not moving, but the shift feel was very sloppy, and it was extremely difficult to get it into 5th and 6th. A few times I thought I was in 5th, then I realized I was in reverse.

Majofo

Yes, Veloster

Majofo

btw.. shnoz was redesigned for turbo model.




Check out the exhaust too..

Majofo

Probably high 6s with MT from 0-60 and still getting 38mpg HWY.. not bad. Should be a fun car as well.

speedemon90

Veloster may be on the same power as the GTI, but I'd assume that it wont handle or feel anything close to what the GTI is like.

myron

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that veloster looks good, I like those little things, especially in white and red. When is the turbo model coming out?

achenator

Eddie, my wife has shown interest on a Vagon lately. How do these lease out?

speedemon90

i believe its already out?

Aman

Honestly, I don't remember. Maybe it was a faulty car, or we just have different tastes.

I wonder if there would be any software upgrades for the Turbo Veloster...

Moog-Type-S

Checking in to see if the he got the R.

charliemike

Shoof, I know you think the Focus ST is too boy racer and perhaps those wheels don't help but the power to weight ratio of it is going to be about 12.7lbs/hp (252hp and 3200lbs). I think the car has the potential for even more than that with CAI/CBE.

The GTI is 16lbs/hp. The Golf R is 256hp and 3325lbs but with AWD will probably be quicker but is about $5k more.

I think that unless you're going to do something right away, it's at least worth a look.

myron

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I didn't know that. Hyundai doesn't have it on their canadian site. maybe they won't be up here. But it's 24500 for one with navi, turbo is gonna be 30k

Shoofin

Don't think the ST will be out for a few months at least, and i'll bet any money that it won't have a favorable lease program anytime soon.

And as for the Veloster, I don't think the Turbo is out yet. On Hyundai's corporate site, it's still listed in "future vehicles" too. I could call my Hyundai rep and ask them. The only thing discouraging me from the Veloster is that any review I've read about Hyundai/Kia Turbo motors weren't that great. Plus, if the shifter on it even closely resembles the shifter on the '12 base Sonata I drove last month, I don't think i'll like it.

As for the revised front end of the Turbo, it's definitely better than the N/A version, but I still don't like it as much, waaay too busy, most of what's going on in front not even being functional. I would only consider this car because of the funky design (at least 3/4's which I'm satisfied with), and not much else. I'm not sure if i'm up to compromising in a decision to get a Hyundai.

Shoofin

A sick part of me says screw the stick, and just get a loaded Grand Cherokee with a tow package...you know, so I can carry my Lotus to those track days... :wink:

But then I come to the reality that I can't get myself to do that. If I get a G/C, I'd get a base one, lease it cheap and use as an extra work/chase car for deliveries instead of putting a crapload of miles on my personal car.

For someone in the business, I sure am not having a fun time deciding...

pttl

Deciding what car to get can be a pain at times.