Photo enforced
#41
I shoot people
I'm not defending the OP but I have to admit... NOT all yellow lights are equal... I've seen them turn from green to yellow to red really fast, and thought to myself... "Huh?" And, I'm pretty sure they have cameras from all different directions/angles
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Originally Posted by danish
alright i dont think you have the story right. i met the intersection just as it turned yellow.
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#43
One on the right for me
Originally Posted by charliemike
Not cops; contractors like Lockheed Martin.
Source? I always assumed it was some administrator within the police department.
#45
it's like this around here there's limited "red light cameras" I've lived in this area for my whole life. so i know where their at.
Red Light cameras= only go on green
regular stoplights=yellow(but gas it a little) or green
Red Light cameras= only go on green
regular stoplights=yellow(but gas it a little) or green
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1) No flash, no photo.
2) I posed this same situation to a friend who works for the city (we used to have photo-enforced red lights until they were found to be in violation of state law). He said they don't trip unless you enter the intersection after the light is red. If you are already in the intersection and it changes, you're fine.
2) I posed this same situation to a friend who works for the city (we used to have photo-enforced red lights until they were found to be in violation of state law). He said they don't trip unless you enter the intersection after the light is red. If you are already in the intersection and it changes, you're fine.
#47
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Originally Posted by is300eater
I'm not defending the OP but I have to admit... NOT all yellow lights are equal... I've seen them turn from green to yellow to red really fast, and thought to myself... "Huh?" And, I'm pretty sure they have cameras from all different directions/angles
Step 1: Time the Yellows Short
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Profit
#48
I shoot people
Originally Posted by Corrosion
Take off your front plates. Problem solved.
One of my clients is an ex cop, she said that if cameras/flashes go off AFTER you enter the intersection... you're safe... As much as they would like to ticket those people... the courts don't like dealing with every other guy fighting it... so they just toss those it out. More court = more $$$
It's the ones that clearly ran red lights they're after.
btw (this actually happened to me a few months ago), If you approach an intersection, the light turns from green-yellow-red, and you stop but your bumper rolls pass the line... if you see flashes, you're safe too.... cuz they will review it and see that you made the attempt to stop before the light turn red.
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#49
One on the right for me
Some intersections are still not equipped to deal with cars that are missing the front plate. I'm still not sure if I'm getting one. About a month ago I was following a MUNI bus - it stopped in the intersection and I was just behind it - not quite clear if I was over any line. Anyway, bus started again so I followed, only to realize the light was red (either just had turned or was turning). Flash went off - haven't got anything yet. Not sure if that is because the picture was too close to tell whether I was in the intersection already or because no front plate.
#50
I shoot people
Originally Posted by subinf
Some intersections are still not equipped to deal with cars that are missing the front plate. I'm still not sure if I'm getting one. About a month ago I was following a MUNI bus - it stopped in the intersection and I was just behind it - not quite clear if I was over any line. Anyway, bus started again so I followed, only to realize the light was red (either just had turned or was turning). Flash went off - haven't got anything yet. Not sure if that is because the picture was too close to tell whether I was in the intersection already or because no front plate.
#51
Drifting
I was pretty impressed with the image quality on my ticket: 3 shots (front, rear, closeup of driver) and I could go to the web site to see a 11 second video of my car going through the intersection. I don't have a front license plate for aesthetics mostly.
In my area, the local Sheriffs department has a full-time officer whose sole job is to review images and issue tickets. I visited this officer and there were stacks of pictures in her office and Encinitas has just 2 intersections that are photo enforced. This officer's threshold is .1 second late time.
The city pays 11K a month for the cameras and they must make more $$ than this so they can profit. I found a video of Redflex's (major camera vendor) presentation to a city showing how much money they can make.
This intersection has been photo enforced for a few years but I really thought that I could easily get through it on yellow. When those lights flashed I honestly thought they were getting a car behind me but the video showed the car behind me actually stopped.
In my area, the local Sheriffs department has a full-time officer whose sole job is to review images and issue tickets. I visited this officer and there were stacks of pictures in her office and Encinitas has just 2 intersections that are photo enforced. This officer's threshold is .1 second late time.
The city pays 11K a month for the cameras and they must make more $$ than this so they can profit. I found a video of Redflex's (major camera vendor) presentation to a city showing how much money they can make.
This intersection has been photo enforced for a few years but I really thought that I could easily get through it on yellow. When those lights flashed I honestly thought they were getting a car behind me but the video showed the car behind me actually stopped.
#52
I shoot people
that's good to know cuz I occasionally visit Carlsbad
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This not directly related but when I read the article I thought of this thread
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/us/01perjury.html
So be careful about your defense
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/us/01perjury.html
So be careful about your defense
#55
Drifting
Originally Posted by moeronn
At least in Cali, there is a minimum yellow time of 3 seconds.
#56
is learning to moonwalk i
Originally Posted by LaCostaRacer
That is true, but you have to factor in speed and the grade of the road as well. 3 seconds is fine for a 25 MPH zone but not sufficient for 50MPH. My intersection (El Camino Real / Leucadia blvd) had a 3.63 yellow interval while the next major intersection going North of this one (El Camino Real / Calle Barcelona) had a 5.1 second yellow interval. Everything was the same: speeds lanes, etc. My argument was let's make these intersection light intervals similar so you don't have to guess what you can do. This big difference between the two was the 1st intersection is in Encinitas as photo enforced while the second one is in Carlsbad and Carlsbad has no photo enforcement.
#58
I don't know if y'all get Car and Driver. the newest issue(March 08 the one with the new CTS-V on the front) Patrick Bedard did a intresting write up about red light cameras. he's done a few intresting write ups against red light cameras. if y'all have old issues and a little bit of time read some of his editorials
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