Phil Patton: Toyota/Lexus Styling The Worst

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Old 10-05-2010, 02:18 PM
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speaking of Ford, I REALLY like the new Edge
Old 10-05-2010, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by is300eater
speaking of Ford, I REALLY like the new Edge
Neighbor just got an 11'. Nothing too special about the exterior. Not ugly but it doesn't blow me away. The interior on the other hand was very impressive. No cheapness to be seen anywhere and everything felt and looked great. Especially the gauge cluster. I was somewhat surprised by all the electronic gizmo's and screen they stuck in there.
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Originally Posted by dom
Neighbor just got an 11'. Nothing too special about the exterior. Not ugly but it doesn't blow me away. The interior on the other hand was very impressive. No cheapness to be seen anywhere and everything felt and looked great. Especially the gauge cluster. I was somewhat surprised by all the electronic gizmo's and screen they stuck in there.
yeah, the exterior design isn't far from 1st gen... I'm diggin' the LED lights tho... and those "gizmo's" you speak of would be the Ford "Sync" multimedia system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4kPM17QWlw
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I general agree with the list.

Acura is misfiring on all cylinders these days... sigh

Toyota makes some great engines, but they should change their mantra to 'In Constant Pursuit of Perfect Blandness.'
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Ford would probably be near or at the top of my list. Volvo would be high up there too. To me Acura/Lexus/Infiniti dont even come close to Jag/BMW/Merc and Audi.
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Originally Posted by Shift_Acura
Ford would probably be near or at the top of my list. Volvo would be high up there too. To me Acura/Lexus/Infiniti dont even come close to Jag/BMW/Merc and Audi.
I would agree with that general comparison between Japanese and European, but I really like some of the designs coming from Infiniti(maybe that explains why I recently bought one). I've liked the G series, especially since the latest gen came out in '07. I also think Infiniti's new M series is a great design.
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
Did you seriously just rank a car with a pick up bed ahead of a real pickup truck?

Please go back to 3G TL with the rest of the groupies.
Was your post that necessary, really? This is the closest thing Honda has to a pickup truck, looks wise. I wasn't rating the functionality just looks. Discernment is not a strong suite for you?
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Originally Posted by is300eater
yeah, the exterior design isn't far from 1st gen... I'm diggin' the LED lights tho... and those "gizmo's" you speak of would be the Ford "Sync" multimedia system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4kPM17QWlw
Nothing short of fantastic. Classy top-notch interior....with cutting edge tech.
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Originally Posted by JAB00
Was your post that necessary, really? This is the closest thing Honda has to a pickup truck, looks wise. I wasn't rating the functionality just looks. Discernment is not a strong suite for you?
If it matters, the Tacoma looks way better than the Ridgeline plus those two are much more comparable than comparing a midsize truck to a fullsize truck.
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The new Lexus SUV's are truly some of the ugliest cars out there... I really like the new MDX, and looking at that and then the RX (which admittedly is the best looking of the Lexus SUV's) just makes the Lexus look even worse.
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Originally Posted by 2000TaffetaTL
The new Lexus SUV's are truly some of the ugliest cars out there... I really like the new MDX, and looking at that and then the RX (which admittedly is the best looking of the Lexus SUV's) just makes the Lexus look even worse.
I never liked the RX (any gen.)
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Originally Posted by is300eater
I never liked the RX (any gen.)
The previous generation was alright, but the first gen and the newest are just horrendously ugly.
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Originally Posted by is300eater
speaking of Ford, I REALLY like the new Edge
I've never been in an Edge but we have a MKX at school and the interior is pretty nice. It's nothing like an Audi but it's nice for what it is.
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Originally Posted by pttl
"Phil Patton, a teacher at the School of Visual Arts in NY and automobile-design..."

One can only assume that the man studied art/archetecture/design, and all that goes with these subjects. Therefore it is not unreasonable to assume that he is a bit more qualified than the 'average joe' when it comes to determining what good design is.
i agree 100%. yes, art is subjective, but theres logic behind good design. if the reviewer has the credentials, then their comprehension is beyond the 'average joe'. plain and simple. IDK why people are quick to disregard this person and his rankings...that's like a museum spectator thinking they know better than the curator...of course everyone is entitled to their opinion...just sayin'
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