Which one is more efficient, MazdaSpeed3 or Mazda6 V6 (and why)?
02-22-2012, 07:16 PM
#41
I drive a Subata.
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Is it you "Professor"?
02-22-2012, 07:19 PM
#42
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02-22-2012, 07:19 PM
#43
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Now would be a good time to talk about the N20; BMW 328i 4-cyl. turbo against Camry V6.
Why is the N20 more efficient?
I must be maso or something.
Why is the N20 more efficient?
I must be maso or something.
02-22-2012, 07:43 PM
#44
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BMW 328i 240HP DI 6-speed EPA fuel cost 2111$ [ZF 8-sp. does better but constitutes a separate advantage that could be applied at Toyota as well]
Toyota Camry 268HP non-DI 6-speed EPA fuel cost 2112$
So for 1$ a year, you get 28HP or 12% more.
Despite all the fuss about 0-60mph, the 328i won't even touch the 5-60mph [more real-world like] in 6.1s of the Camry V6 2012. Last Z4 N20 tested by C&D recorded a 5-60mph in 7.0s.
As for emissions, the N20 pollutes more by HP than the Toy 3.5L.
Nevertheless from a technical perspective, all of this is fascinating.
Toyota Camry 268HP non-DI 6-speed EPA fuel cost 2112$
So for 1$ a year, you get 28HP or 12% more.
Despite all the fuss about 0-60mph, the 328i won't even touch the 5-60mph [more real-world like] in 6.1s of the Camry V6 2012. Last Z4 N20 tested by C&D recorded a 5-60mph in 7.0s.
As for emissions, the N20 pollutes more by HP than the Toy 3.5L.
Nevertheless from a technical perspective, all of this is fascinating.
02-22-2012, 07:58 PM
#45
I drive a Subata.
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Holy crap, you made no sense.
02-22-2012, 09:14 PM
#46
02-24-2012, 05:20 PM
#47
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Another fresh and great example of my point (which makes A LOT of sense actually 
);
Cost in fuel EPA 15000 miles;
Genesis Coupe 2013 2.0T 274HP 8-sp. automatic 2417$
Accord Coupe 2008 V6 268-271HP 5-sp. automatic 2341$
);Cost in fuel EPA 15000 miles;
Genesis Coupe 2013 2.0T 274HP 8-sp. automatic 2417$
Accord Coupe 2008 V6 268-271HP 5-sp. automatic 2341$
02-24-2012, 05:22 PM
#48
I drive a Subata.
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Dude, let it go.
Whitney Houston is dead already.
Whitney Houston is dead already.
02-24-2012, 05:24 PM
#49
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02-24-2012, 05:30 PM
#50
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Not again.
02-24-2012, 05:31 PM
#51
I drive a Subata.
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02-24-2012, 05:34 PM
#52
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02-24-2012, 05:42 PM
#53
Whats up with RDX owners?
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Who's brain is more efficient, Saintor or SSFTSX?
02-24-2012, 05:42 PM
#54
I drive a Subata.
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Dude, at least SSFTSX is funny.
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02-24-2012, 05:43 PM
#55
Whats up with RDX owners?
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So thats one vote for SSFTSX.
02-24-2012, 05:46 PM
#57
Whats up with RDX owners?
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44 years old, acting the way you do. Pathetic.
02-24-2012, 05:53 PM
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02-24-2012, 05:55 PM
#59
I drive a Subata.
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I'm scared to visit Canada now.
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02-24-2012, 05:56 PM
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02-24-2012, 06:37 PM
#61
The sizzle in the Steak
^^ says the guy who comes up with crack-pot threads.
02-25-2012, 09:50 AM
#62
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Another good example;
Cost in fuel over 15000 miles; both at 2233$
2012 F30 335i Step 6-cyl. turbo 300HP RWD 5-60mph 5.9s
2012 TT S-Tronic 4-cyl. turbo 211HP AWD 5-60mph 6.7s
However the one that is lighter is the TT.... the 335i weights almost 450lbs more!
Cost in fuel over 15000 miles; both at 2233$
2012 F30 335i Step 6-cyl. turbo 300HP RWD 5-60mph 5.9s
2012 TT S-Tronic 4-cyl. turbo 211HP AWD 5-60mph 6.7s
However the one that is lighter is the TT.... the 335i weights almost 450lbs more!
02-25-2012, 10:55 AM
#63
My first Avatar....
BMW 328i 240HP DI 6-speed EPA fuel cost 2111$ [ZF 8-sp. does better but constitutes a separate advantage that could be applied at Toyota as well]
Toyota Camry 268HP non-DI 6-speed EPA fuel cost 2112$
So for 1$ a year, you get 28HP or 12% more.
Despite all the fuss about 0-60mph, the 328i won't even touch the 5-60mph [more real-world like] in 6.1s of the Camry V6 2012. Last Z4 N20 tested by C&D recorded a 5-60mph in 7.0s.
As for emissions, the N20 pollutes more by HP than the Toy 3.5L.
Nevertheless from a technical perspective, all of this is fascinating.
Toyota Camry 268HP non-DI 6-speed EPA fuel cost 2112$
So for 1$ a year, you get 28HP or 12% more.
Despite all the fuss about 0-60mph, the 328i won't even touch the 5-60mph [more real-world like] in 6.1s of the Camry V6 2012. Last Z4 N20 tested by C&D recorded a 5-60mph in 7.0s.
As for emissions, the N20 pollutes more by HP than the Toy 3.5L.
Nevertheless from a technical perspective, all of this is fascinating.
02-25-2012, 10:56 AM
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Big Floppy Donkey Dick
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02-25-2012, 10:58 AM
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I drive a Subata.
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02-25-2012, 11:02 AM
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You know, some of this information you pull out here might be somewhat interesting if it wasn't buried in the "noise" of you constantly trying to beat people over the head with it.
02-25-2012, 11:03 AM
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Army with harmony
Dave drop a load on 'em
OPP, how can I explain it
I'll take you frame by frame it
To have y'all jumpin' shall we singin' it
O is for Other, P is for People scratchin' temple
The last P...well...that's not that simple
It's sorta like another way to call a cat a kitten
It's five little letters that are missin' here
You get on occassion at the other party
As a game 'n it seems I gotta start to explainin'
Bust it
You ever had a girl and met her on a nice hello
You get her name and number and then you feelin' real mellow
You get home, wait a day, she's what you wanna know about
Then you call up and it's her girlfriend or her cousin's house
It's not a front, F to the R to the O to the N to the T
It's just her boyfriend's at her house (Boy, that's what is scary)
It's OPP, time other people's what you get it
There's no room for relationship there's just room to hit it
How many brothers out there know just what I'm gettin' at
Who thinks it's wrong 'cos I'm splittin' and co-hittin' at
Well if you do, that's OPP and you're not down with it
But if you don't, here's your membership
Chorus:
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (Every last homie)
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (All the homies)
As for the ladies, OPP means something gifted
The first two letters are the same but the last is something
different
It's the longest, loveliest, lean-- I call it the leanest
It's another five letter word rhymin' with cleanest and meanest
I won't get into that, I'll do it...ah...sorta properly
I say the last P...hmmm...stands for property
Now lady here comes a kiss, blow a kiss back to me, now tell me
exactly
Have you ever known a brother who have another like ah girl or wife
And you just had to stop and just 'cos he look just as nice
You looked at him, he looked at you and you knew right away
That he had someone but he was gonna be yours anyway
You couldn't be seen with him and honestly you didn't care
'Cos in a room behind a door no one but y'all are there
When y'all are finish, y'all can leave and only y'all would know
And then y'all could throw the skeleton bones right in the closet do'
Now don't be shocked 'cos if you're down I want your hands up high
Say OPP (OPP) I like to say with pride
Now when you do it, do it well and make sure that it counts
You're now down with a discount
Chorus:
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (Every last lady)
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (All the ladies)
This girl ah tried to OPP me
I had a girl and she knew that matter-of-fact my girl was partner's
that
Had a fall out, disagreement, yeah an argument
She tried to do me so we did it in my apartment, bust it
That wasn't the thing it must have been the way she hit the ceiling
'Cos after that she kept on coming back and catchin' feelings
I said, "Let's go my girl is coming so you gotta leave"
She said, "Oh no, I love you Treach" I said, "Now child please"
You gots to leave, come grab your coat, right now you gotta go
I said now look you to the stairs and to the stairwindow
This was a thing, a little thing, you shouldn't have put your heart
'Cos you know I was OPP, hell from the very start
Come on, come on, now let me tell you what it's all about
When you get down, you can't go 'round runnin' off at the mouth
That's rule number one in this OPP establishment
You keep your mouth shut and it won't get back to her or him
Exciting isn't it, a special kinda business
Many of you will catch the same sorta OPP is you with
Him or her for sure is going to admit it
When OPP comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it
Chorus:
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (This whole party)
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (This whole party)
Break it down!
Dave drop a load on 'em
OPP, how can I explain it
I'll take you frame by frame it
To have y'all jumpin' shall we singin' it
O is for Other, P is for People scratchin' temple
The last P...well...that's not that simple
It's sorta like another way to call a cat a kitten
It's five little letters that are missin' here
You get on occassion at the other party
As a game 'n it seems I gotta start to explainin'
Bust it
You ever had a girl and met her on a nice hello
You get her name and number and then you feelin' real mellow
You get home, wait a day, she's what you wanna know about
Then you call up and it's her girlfriend or her cousin's house
It's not a front, F to the R to the O to the N to the T
It's just her boyfriend's at her house (Boy, that's what is scary)
It's OPP, time other people's what you get it
There's no room for relationship there's just room to hit it
How many brothers out there know just what I'm gettin' at
Who thinks it's wrong 'cos I'm splittin' and co-hittin' at
Well if you do, that's OPP and you're not down with it
But if you don't, here's your membership
Chorus:
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (Every last homie)
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (All the homies)
As for the ladies, OPP means something gifted
The first two letters are the same but the last is something
different
It's the longest, loveliest, lean-- I call it the leanest
It's another five letter word rhymin' with cleanest and meanest
I won't get into that, I'll do it...ah...sorta properly
I say the last P...hmmm...stands for property
Now lady here comes a kiss, blow a kiss back to me, now tell me
exactly
Have you ever known a brother who have another like ah girl or wife
And you just had to stop and just 'cos he look just as nice
You looked at him, he looked at you and you knew right away
That he had someone but he was gonna be yours anyway
You couldn't be seen with him and honestly you didn't care
'Cos in a room behind a door no one but y'all are there
When y'all are finish, y'all can leave and only y'all would know
And then y'all could throw the skeleton bones right in the closet do'
Now don't be shocked 'cos if you're down I want your hands up high
Say OPP (OPP) I like to say with pride
Now when you do it, do it well and make sure that it counts
You're now down with a discount
Chorus:
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (Every last lady)
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (All the ladies)
This girl ah tried to OPP me
I had a girl and she knew that matter-of-fact my girl was partner's
that
Had a fall out, disagreement, yeah an argument
She tried to do me so we did it in my apartment, bust it
That wasn't the thing it must have been the way she hit the ceiling
'Cos after that she kept on coming back and catchin' feelings
I said, "Let's go my girl is coming so you gotta leave"
She said, "Oh no, I love you Treach" I said, "Now child please"
You gots to leave, come grab your coat, right now you gotta go
I said now look you to the stairs and to the stairwindow
This was a thing, a little thing, you shouldn't have put your heart
'Cos you know I was OPP, hell from the very start
Come on, come on, now let me tell you what it's all about
When you get down, you can't go 'round runnin' off at the mouth
That's rule number one in this OPP establishment
You keep your mouth shut and it won't get back to her or him
Exciting isn't it, a special kinda business
Many of you will catch the same sorta OPP is you with
Him or her for sure is going to admit it
When OPP comes, damn-- skippy I'm with it
Chorus:
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (This whole party)
You down with OPP (Yeah you know me) 3X
Who's down with OPP (This whole party)
Break it down!
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02-25-2012, 11:06 AM
#68
My first Avatar....
that the time. Torque steer was a bitch too.
02-25-2012, 11:08 AM
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Just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world
She took the midnight train goin' anywhere
Just a city boy, born and raised in south Detroit
He took the midnight train goin' anywhere
A singer in a smokey room
A smell of wine and cheap perfume
For a smile they can share the night
It goes on and on and on and on
(Chorus)
Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard
Their shadows searching in the night
Streetlights people, living just to find emotion
Hiding, somewhere in the night.
Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin' anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on
(Chorus)
Don't stop believin'
Hold on to the feelin'
Streetlights people
Don't stop believin'
Hold on
Streetlight people
Don't stop believin'
Hold on to the feelin'
Streetlights people
She took the midnight train goin' anywhere
Just a city boy, born and raised in south Detroit
He took the midnight train goin' anywhere
A singer in a smokey room
A smell of wine and cheap perfume
For a smile they can share the night
It goes on and on and on and on
(Chorus)
Strangers waiting, up and down the boulevard
Their shadows searching in the night
Streetlights people, living just to find emotion
Hiding, somewhere in the night.
Working hard to get my fill,
Everybody wants a thrill
Payin' anything to roll the dice,
Just one more time
Some will win, some will lose
Some were born to sing the blues
Oh, the movie never ends
It goes on and on and on and on
(Chorus)
Don't stop believin'
Hold on to the feelin'
Streetlights people
Don't stop believin'
Hold on
Streetlight people
Don't stop believin'
Hold on to the feelin'
Streetlights people
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02-25-2012, 11:25 AM
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In the Mid-South meow
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AWD is always going to get worse MPGs than RWD, not to mention who knows what the gearing difference is. They're not comparable.
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02-25-2012, 11:26 AM
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I like big butts and I can not lie
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupie
I've seen them dancin'
To hell with romancin'
She's sweat, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the butt? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy butt!
Baby got back!
(LA face with Oakland booty)
Baby got back!
[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like 'em round, and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself, I'm actin' like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double-up, ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
'Cause silicone parts are made for toys
I want 'em real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mix-a-Lot's in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Knock-kneeded bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sisters, I wanna get with ya
I won't cuss or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna *fuck*
Till the break of dawn
Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So, ladies! {Yeah!} Ladies! {Yeah}
If you wanna roll in my Mercedes {Yeah!}
Then turn around! Stick it out!
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got back!
Baby got back!
Yeah, baby ... when it comes to females, Cosmo ain't got nothin'
to do with my selection. 36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3".
[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none
Unless you've got buns, hun
You can do side bends or sit-ups,
But please don't lose that butt
Some brothers wanna play that "hard" role
And tell you that the butt ain't gold
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that!
'Cause your waist is small and your curves are kickin'
And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
To the beanpole dames in the magazines:
You ain't it, Miss Thing!
Give me a sister, I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
'Cause his girls are on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And I pull up quick to get wit 'em
So ladies, if the butt is round,
And you want a triple X throw down,
Dial 1-900-MIXALOT
And kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got back!
(Little in the middle but she got much back) [4x]
You other brothers can't deny
That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist
And a round thing in your face
You get sprung, wanna pull out your tough
'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed
Deep in the jeans she's wearing
I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
Oh baby, I wanna get with you
And take your picture
My homeboys tried to warn me
But that butt you got makes me so horny
Ooh, Rump-o'-smooth-skin
You say you wanna get in my Benz?
Well, use me, use me
'Cause you ain't that average groupie
I've seen them dancin'
To hell with romancin'
She's sweat, wet,
Got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette
I'm tired of magazines
Sayin' flat butts are the thing
Take the average black man and ask him that
She gotta pack much back
So, fellas! (Yeah!) Fellas! (Yeah!)
Has your girlfriend got the butt? (Hell yeah!)
Tell 'em to shake it! (Shake it!) Shake it! (Shake it!)
Shake that healthy butt!
Baby got back!
(LA face with Oakland booty)
Baby got back!
[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
I like 'em round, and big
And when I'm throwin' a gig
I just can't help myself, I'm actin' like an animal
Now here's my scandal
I wanna get you home
And ugh, double-up, ugh, ugh
I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
'Cause silicone parts are made for toys
I want 'em real thick and juicy
So find that juicy double
Mix-a-Lot's in trouble
Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
So I'm lookin' at rock videos
Knock-kneeded bimbos walkin' like hoes
You can have them bimbos
I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
A word to the thick soul sisters, I wanna get with ya
I won't cuss or hit ya
But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna *fuck*
Till the break of dawn
Baby got it goin' on
A lot of simps won't like this song
'Cause them punks like to hit it and quit it
And I'd rather stay and play
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
So, ladies! {Yeah!} Ladies! {Yeah}
If you wanna roll in my Mercedes {Yeah!}
Then turn around! Stick it out!
Even white boys got to shout
Baby got back!
Baby got back!
Yeah, baby ... when it comes to females, Cosmo ain't got nothin'
to do with my selection. 36-24-36? Ha ha, only if she's 5'3".
[Sir Mix-a-Lot]
So your girlfriend rolls a Honda, playin' workout tapes by Fonda
But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
My anaconda don't want none
Unless you've got buns, hun
You can do side bends or sit-ups,
But please don't lose that butt
Some brothers wanna play that "hard" role
And tell you that the butt ain't gold
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that!
'Cause your waist is small and your curves are kickin'
And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
To the beanpole dames in the magazines:
You ain't it, Miss Thing!
Give me a sister, I can't resist her
Red beans and rice didn't miss her
Some knucklehead tried to dis
'Cause his girls are on my list
He had game but he chose to hit 'em
And I pull up quick to get wit 'em
So ladies, if the butt is round,
And you want a triple X throw down,
Dial 1-900-MIXALOT
And kick them nasty thoughts
Baby got back!
(Little in the middle but she got much back) [4x]
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02-25-2012, 11:39 AM
#73
I drive a Subata.
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So, what happened to Whitney again?
02-25-2012, 12:25 PM
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Back to more reasonable people, the Toyota has quite a good engine note and I can't refer to any stock 4-cyl. turbo on a mainstream car that sounds this good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=bT0pG-fXu74
Honda / Acura V6 and many others are doing as great.
02-25-2012, 12:35 PM
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It won't be easy, you'll think it strange
When I try to explain how I feel
That I still need your love after all that I've done
You won't believe me
All you will see is a girl you once knew
Although she's dressed up to the nines
At sixes and sevens with you
I had to let it happen, I had to change
Couldn't stay all my life down at heel
Looking out of the window, staying out of the sun
So I chose freedom
Running around, trying everything new
But nothing impressed me at all
I never expected it to
[Chorus]
Don't cry for me Argentina
The truth is I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance
And as for fortune, and as for fame
I never invited them in
Though it seemed to the world they were all I desired
They are illusions
They are not the solutions they promised to be
The answer was here all the time
I love you and hope you love me
Don't cry for me Argentina
[chorus]
Have I said too much?
There's nothing more I can think of to say to you.
But all you have to do is look at me to know
That every word is true
When I try to explain how I feel
That I still need your love after all that I've done
You won't believe me
All you will see is a girl you once knew
Although she's dressed up to the nines
At sixes and sevens with you
I had to let it happen, I had to change
Couldn't stay all my life down at heel
Looking out of the window, staying out of the sun
So I chose freedom
Running around, trying everything new
But nothing impressed me at all
I never expected it to
[Chorus]
Don't cry for me Argentina
The truth is I never left you
All through my wild days
My mad existence
I kept my promise
Don't keep your distance
And as for fortune, and as for fame
I never invited them in
Though it seemed to the world they were all I desired
They are illusions
They are not the solutions they promised to be
The answer was here all the time
I love you and hope you love me
Don't cry for me Argentina
[chorus]
Have I said too much?
There's nothing more I can think of to say to you.
But all you have to do is look at me to know
That every word is true
02-25-2012, 01:05 PM
#76
Banned
Thread Starter
TT's Quattro is an Haldex system, which means that it is by default a front-driver. Power will go in the rear only when there is a reason;
Originally Posted by Wiki
Under normal operating conditions, the Haldex LSC clutch operates at 5% (divide 5% between front and rear, and 97.5% torque goes to the front, and 2.5% goes to the rear).
02-25-2012, 01:13 PM
#77
I drive a Subata.
iTrader: (1)
Wow I feel smarter now. Yay.
02-28-2012, 07:41 PM
#78
Banned
Thread Starter
Another example that should please Honda/Acura crowd.
5-60mph / $ fuel EPA
Civic 2.4L 6.4s 2322$ [no direct injection]
GTI 2.0T 6.7s 2322$ [a bit slower when low torque matters, but a bit heavier too]
The 2.0T might be a more pleasing engine but is it more efficient? There is nothing to even suggest it.
5-60mph / $ fuel EPA
Civic 2.4L 6.4s 2322$ [no direct injection]
GTI 2.0T 6.7s 2322$ [a bit slower when low torque matters, but a bit heavier too]
The 2.0T might be a more pleasing engine but is it more efficient? There is nothing to even suggest it.
02-28-2012, 07:46 PM
#79
Moderator
Is the purpose of this exercise to propose the argument that efficiency (as defined in this thread) is the only rational basis for auto purchases?
