CLtotheTL32

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Amen.

Acira

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They have a polestar s60 wagon?Polestars are IMO better looking than the M series they have out right now.

Shoofin

The Allroad is essentially an Avant, but on it's tippy toes

CLtotheTL32

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The Allroad is an A4 Avant on the Q5 chassis. I want it, but at same time I don't.

mrmako

Yep. The last Allroad was an A6 with some lower plastic cladding and a raised suspension. This one is the same, just on the A4 chassis. And it pisses me off because the A4 Avant (I see them every day and want one) is a great looking car.

charliemike

You mentioned that before but I had never heard that it was actually not on the A4 chassis. Given the way these cars are dropped on normal suspension, I'm surprised Audi used the Q5 for the Allroad. Weird.

CLtotheTL32

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I was surprised when the salesman told me that as well. I've done some research and honestly cannot find anything that confirms that statement. It's possible that Audi modified the Q5 chassis enough that it's not a mirror image of the Q5, but very very similar.

charliemike

Honestly, I think he was talking out of his ass trying to sell the SUV side of things. I read an article that compared it to the Avant as the basis for the Allroad. It's a really weird thing but I guess it doesn't matter as the reviews of it are really positive

CLtotheTL32

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The first thing I told him was that I wanted an A4 Avant but was willing to "settle" for the allroad

I also stated that I wanted the practicality of an SUV but without having to get 15mpg everywhere. Plus I want something that you don't see too often.

charliemike

I bet that's where he pulled the "High Speed Bumper Bolts and non-flammable blinker fluid" sales donkey routine and said it was based on the Q5. Salesdonkeys

CLtotheTL32

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Surprisingly not; I was the one who asked about the suspension. He said he was surprised that a younger person wanted a wagon

StreetKA

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CLtotheTL32

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Damn! I had to find out more about that car, so here's a link:

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...-Wagon-!!!-Wow

The front lip and exhaust are a bit too much for my taste, but then again LB doesn't do "plain and simple"

I hope it has enough power to justify the looks! I'm guessing so by the meaty rear tires but can't find any official power stats.

Yumcha

It's a bit over-the-top...but, still, very unique. And definitely not bad. Very cool find.

Yumcha

The M3 wagon is definitely something (as a fan) I wish BMW did produce...this pic is from that secret BMW garage (thread is also in Car Talk if you search)...

StreetKA

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well that m3 is a bit of overkill but i found nicer looking more like a stock version of wagon SO FUCKING HOT

neuronbob

^^^^
YESSSSSS! That is so beautiful.... of joy

charliemike

Your Vagon is pretty damn awesome too. I think I'd take the Vagon over the M3.

BlueAc

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This.

Yumcha

FWIW, Volvo to release another wagon: https://acurazine.com/forums/automotive-news-6/volvo-concept-estate-news-905661/

neuronbob

You guys are so kind. I love my Vagon, too. Gotta appreciate a well done wagon though!

Hmmmm. Promising.

neuronbob

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oldsmobile-Cutlass-Wagon-1983-oldsmobile-cutlass-cruiser-turbo-wagon-grand-national-11-sec-1-4-gnx-/111284127488?forcerrptr=true&hash=item19e90d0700&item=111284127488&pt=US_Cars_Trucks
1983 turbo Oldsmobile wagon. the dash is awful but dat engine! THIS is the ultimate sleeper....your momma's wagon.

Yumcha

Jaguar reveals their new wagon: https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...4#post14894464

neuronbob

What, wha, no USA model?



The V wagon is better looking than this, but I must say the Jag is definitely not chopped liver.

Yumcha

I think the Jag is gorgeous. And absolute suckage it is not available in NA.

charliemike

Really though, should we be surprised?

Frankly, this is all your wife's fault. Your wife and any other wife who thinks a station wagon means they've become their mother.

Women: Why we can't have nice things.

Yumcha

Yup...my wife is the reason why wagons were ruled out for my car. I can safely say that the Audi Avant or similar would've been in the garage if she allowed it instead of the Sea Cucumber.

Yumcha

Remember: Our wives hates us.

DAYTA

Both the A4 and Q5 are based on the same basic platform (MLB/MLP) from VAG.

I can't find the article, but I read that the current Allroad combines the B8 A4 chassis with the wider track from the A5/S5, hence the flared fenders and more aggressive look.

neuronbob

Well, mine did let me get a 6MT V wagon even though she knew she'd never get to drive it. I'd consider that true love and sacrifice, but I get your point.

00TL-P3.2

Another nice looking wagon we'll likely never see here.

Chief F1 Fan

When I started shopping wagons, my choice was between an E and the 5. My wife could not believe it. Now that I've had it a while, she really likes it. Took a while to wear on her though.

Yumcha

Interesting that women seem to generally dislike wagons...I wonder what is it about them that turns them off. My wife thinks wagons look awful.

Chief F1 Fan

for my wife, her thing was "it looks huge!" The Touring it turns out, is .1" longer than the sedan she loves. Oh well.

charliemike

They have negative associations with their mothers

Yumcha

Not sure about that...the wife's family had a minivan and a Ford Taurus sedan.


And she even told me she'd rather have a minivan than a wagon.

Yumcha

...which was almost grounds for divorce.

Good thing I'm a tolerant man.

Yumcha

Which explains why I have not banned SSFTSX...

charliemike

I think I would actually consider doing something irresponsible for this car:

neuronbob