Chopsie

Peetarrr!! Do it!! You need to spend some time in mine next time in town

Now for the Kicker,

Kirk / Teh Snaps (my roomate and best friend for those who don't know him), well his girl Samatha had been looking for a new car, and she wanted a convertible. Of course the S2000 was the only option I could push
So after some searching I found one for sale in the FS Forum. I got her approval and started talking to the owner about it. Sounded like a great car that was very well maintained. After inspecting everything I could think of, I came up with no flaws, I mean NONE! This car is more flawless than my own.
They flew out to Wilmington, NC and drove it back.
2002 Sebring Silver/ Solid Red Interior (my fav interior ) 32k Miles. Only upgrade was the 5 spoke forged 17" wheels. The top shows little to no wear. I'm very impressed with this car.
Anyway, enough talk, here are the pics. (and I'm a dumbass for not taking any daytime pics after cleaning it up :pat: )

Pics taken with my BB storm for all you VZW folks

pmptx

Absolutely, I will take you up on that deal.
Congrats to Kirk and the "MRS".

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Peetarrr!! Do it!! You need to spend some time in mine next time in town

Now for the Kicker,

Kirk / Teh Snaps (my roomate and best friend for those who don't know him), well his girl Samatha had been looking for a new car, and she wanted a convertible. Of course the S2000 was the only option I could push
So after some searching I found one for sale in the FS Forum. I got her approval and started talking to the owner about it. Sounded like a great car that was very well maintained. After inspecting everything I could think of, I came up with no flaws, I mean NONE! This car is more flawless than my own.
They flew out to Wilmington, NC and drove it back.
2002 Sebring Silver/ Solid Red Interior (my fav interior ) 32k Miles. Only upgrade was the 5 spoke forged 17" wheels. The top shows little to no wear. I'm very impressed with this car.
Anyway, enough talk, here are the pics. (and I'm a dumbass for not taking any daytime pics after cleaning it up :pat: )

neuronbob

Beautiful, Chopsie, just beautiful.
And only 34k miles to boot on a 2002, that's not bad.

I'm still only at around 17k miles in my 2002. Been driving the V a lot lately, though.

drdamian

looks awesome. do you have any plans for it?

JnC

iTrader: (12)

Which one would you guys choose.

-- 02 AP1 with 17k miles for 14K
-- 04 AP2 with 60K miles for $13.5k

-- Both are clean, one owner, very well kept and all maintenance records available.

Ken1997TL

The AP2

AznX TL

ap1, 9k ftw. although i like the ap2 styling better.....

tsxgoogs

I would say ap2 because of styling, the ap1 is not bad either + the redline @ 9k

Danil ACE

AP1 since it has only 17k miles on it.

Ken1997TL

The extra torque is quite nice though, plus the suspension IMO is better on the AP2

neuronbob

+1
Low miles FTW! It's got no electronic nannies outside of ABS, either. It'll teach ya how to drive right.

JnC

iTrader: (12)

I am leaning towards Ap2 as well as I love the styling and with the kind of driving style that I have the extra torque certainly helps. Even if I do get the Ap1 I know for a fact that I'll be investing in the AP2 headlight and tail lights.

One more thing that I forgot to mention, AP1 is from MA and AP2 is from AZ. Even though the owner of AP1 has mentioned that the car was stored during winter times I'd prefer the AP2 since it barely saw any rain and no snow down in AZ.

drdamian

how long do you plan on keeping the car. if its for a long time i say get the AP1. you can always do the conversion and whatnot. and its got lower miles. if you plan on keeping it for a short time go for the AP2 and avoid the hassle. 60K and 17K is a big difference. also is there anything mechanically that needs to be done to the AP2. hows the clutch. i hear that is a big job to do. i went with a AP1 02 with 18.5K miles just because i plant on having it for a while and the insurance was a little cheaper than the AP2

JnC

iTrader: (12)

Planning to keep it for a good long time.

drdamian

what color combo are the 2 cars.?

JnC

iTrader: (12)

AP1 is the same combo as above i.e. silver/red
AP2 is GPW/tan.

drdamian

my vote is the silver w red. the white is hawt but im personally not a fan of the tan interior. ive seen someone do an all black interior on white.

AznX TL

http://mercedes.sunmotorcars.com/veh...carID=77702#js
00 ap1 w/a wee bit under 12k miles on it, they want 17k..... is this a good deal? kbb & nada say its not worth anything close to 17k though.

tsxgoogs

At first glance all I can see is that it looks like it may have camber issues unless thats just the way the tires are.

drdamian

i think it is a lot of money regardless of the miles. but it seems like s2k's in PA are going for a lot of money.

MR1

See if you can get in touch with this guy, save at least $5,000.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT

JnC

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The silver one got sold quick, which is a good and bad thing as I personally wanted the AP2 but the miles/price on the AP1 was really tempting.

I ended up finding a better deal on an AP2 so put down the deposit yesterday and picking it up later next week

hk_s2k

WERD.....17k is too high for MY00

alexSU

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very nice!

tsxgoogs

I think I am going to start saving up to a decent down payment on one. Hopefully by next year I will have one.

drdamian

good find JnC , you better post up pics when you get it.

mrsteve

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February would be the best time to buy. Dead of winter.

iTimmy

I bought mine in December during a snow storm, they were very eager to negotiate.

tsxgoogs

Thanks, Do you think there will still be 09s around? because I still see 08s

AznX TL

seeing how 09 was the last year of production, they're probably selling them as soon as they come in.

mrsteve

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Hypothetical:

'04 Boxster S w/39k miles for $27,000
or
'06 S2000 w/28k miles for $23,000

Would be a weekend toy ~500 miles/month average

iTimmy

I have a feeling it won't be hard to find a brand new 09 well into 2010. The very last car off the assembly line will be collectable, but that will never make it to a showroom. As a whole I think the 08's and 09's will be some of the least collectible S2000's. S2k's as a whole are not as desirable or trendy as they were in the past, compound that by a tough/uncertain economy and a car like this becomes and easy luxury to cut for most potential buyers. It's an older platform(though still very competitive) and the production/demand has been dropping since 2002. To give you an idea in 2002 there were 9,684 S2000 sold in the USA in 2008 that number dropped to 2,538. For some peculiar reason there are a LOT of 2009's, 5,745 that's through June. There are already twice as many 09's as 08's and I just don't see them selling.

The key with purchasing a S2k is patience. Wait for the exact car you want, in the condition you want for a price that you feel is fair.

iTimmy

That's a tough choice, both are great cars to drive. I was faced with a similar situation when I purchased mine and at the time I couldn't get into a nice 05(987) Boxster S for the same price as a new 08 S2000 and I didn't want a 986. The 986 and 996 are plagued with some odd problems, most notably rear main seal leaks which can lead to a blown engine(not by low oil, but some sort of crank mis-alignment that is ultimately the cause of the leak. There is no way to tell if/when this may happen and the cars are all potential money pits because of this. That said, a 986 is fairly easy to work on, it's not as simple as a normal car, but things are accessible and it is even kind of fun to work on because things are so odd, though well engineered. Interiors are another achilles heel of 986's and condition is spotty, some are fantastic others are fairly rough. If I were given the choice of a similar condition 986 S or a 987 base I would opt for the 987, I feel that the chassis upgrade far outweighs the power deficiencies. At the same time, let's not forget the S2000....

They are very reliable and fantastic to drive, however, if I were to shop for a used AP2, I would look at 04-05. In 2006 they went to drive by wire and while it is implemented well, most who have driven both prefer the regular cable. Coincidentally the drive by wire cars still use a throttle cable, but it doesn't go to the throttle, it goes to a solenoid and in order to get better pedal feel it requires a little trial and error adjustment. Given the choice, I would much rather have a 04-05 and not deal with the added electronics that started popping up in 06. This will also drive the price of the S2000 down a bit further making it an even more attractive purchase.

mrsteve

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I too would prefer a 987 but they jump in price by about $5,000 for a similarly equipped 986S. I don't think I'm ready to spend well over $30k on a car. I'd rather buy a boat. but mid $20's is reasonable.

I would also prefer a '04-'05 for the traditional throttle linkage and I think the wheels look nicer. But it seems the '04-'05 are harder to come by than an '06. For some reason there is an abundance of '06's available at local dealerships.

I'm in no rush to buy a car but I really don't know exactly what I want. I also wouldn't mind a C5 ZO6... need to drive one. There are a ton of fun, good used cars out there in the ~$20-25k range right now.

iTimmy

There's no point rushing into anything like this, take your time, drive a bunch of cars and see what you like! I had a friend who had both a C5 Z06 and at the same time a Ferrari 355, he sold the 355 not long after he got the Z06, couldn't justify the premium for less performance, he greatly preferred the Z06 all around.

You may want to take a look at 350Z too, a different take on the driving experience, but fun none the less.

mr5parkle

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mrsteve

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I think the interior of the C5 is sub-par. That's the only thing keeping it off the top of my list.

tsxgoogs

That is sex!

Your right its not that nice inside of the C5. But for the price its the best preforming car, My friends father just bought a mint 50 anniversary zo6 and it HAULS!

Stylinhonda

My 08 CR! Love it, but I'm selling it to buy a new house

The CR's are edging out Z06's on the track and AutoX! They hate spending that much money and having that big of a motor and still being a second or so behind!

tsxgoogs

Nice car to bad you have to sell. Which Zo6 are you talking about c5 or c6?