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#1962
#1964
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From: Mooresville, NC
Yeah noticed this trend in price difference for premium for a while now. I don't know why we just don't kill off midgrade gas and just make 87 and 93. I would really love to have some 94 or 95 that Sunoco used to make back in the early 2000s. Either that or make it easier to get FlexFuel. I can't get that stuff anywhere around here.
#1966
At 76 this morning,
regular 87 is $2.78
midgrade 89 is $2.91
premium 91 is $3.08
At Shell across the street,
regular 87 is $2.85
midgrade 89 is $2.99
premium 91 is $3.09
#1968
#1970
:P
2.15-2.35 here, usually we have .30-.60 off from supermarket savings, so it's 1.80 for the 4Runner & Camry and 2.20 for the BMW.
#1972
#1975
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From: SE Mass --- > Central VA --- > SE Mass
The Mrs paid $2.09 for 89 yesterday. Prices are dropping a couple of pennies every couple of day here, however I expect that to change as we get closer to the upcoming holiday weekend.
#1977
Why High-Octane Gas Costs So Much More Than Regular
But another factor driving demand is that more stringent fuel-economy standards have put downsized and turbocharged engines in more and more new cars. And most, if not all, of those engines, whether in a Mini Cooper or a Nissan Juke, require premium for the best power and mileage.
#1978
So thanks to environmental factors and laws, and hard to find sources of octane, it's more difficult to produce higher octane gas at the refinery.
There has to be a better way.
There has to be a better way.
#1979
#1980
Harvey is having a big impact on gas here in DFW. Not only on price, which has been jacked up, but also availability.
News: "Gas prices are going up and availability is limited, some stations are temporarily running out of gas. GO GET GAS NOW!"
Everyone: "PANIC! Must go to gas station now AHHH"
Thanks to the media hyping it up, everyone is making a run on the gas stations and they are all being depleted. I was just out during lunch and passed by a Racetrac that was completely out and a Krogers and Chevron had lines 30 cars long. THE GAS WILL BE RESTOCKED it will just take a little longer than normal!
GasBuddy has a site - tracker.gasbuddy.com - that is helping track if stations have gas or don't. Most of them around my work and home don't right now. eek.
News: "Gas prices are going up and availability is limited, some stations are temporarily running out of gas. GO GET GAS NOW!"
Everyone: "PANIC! Must go to gas station now AHHH"
Thanks to the media hyping it up, everyone is making a run on the gas stations and they are all being depleted. I was just out during lunch and passed by a Racetrac that was completely out and a Krogers and Chevron had lines 30 cars long. THE GAS WILL BE RESTOCKED it will just take a little longer than normal!
GasBuddy has a site - tracker.gasbuddy.com - that is helping track if stations have gas or don't. Most of them around my work and home don't right now. eek.
#1981
Out here in N. California it depends on where you go.
Shell: anywhere from 2.84-3.05 A Gallon. But now they are charging less if you get a car wash with your purchase :Shrug:
Chevron: 3.05 a gallon
Costco: 2.59
AM/PM: 2.57
This is all for 87.
Shell: anywhere from 2.84-3.05 A Gallon. But now they are charging less if you get a car wash with your purchase :Shrug:
Chevron: 3.05 a gallon
Costco: 2.59
AM/PM: 2.57
This is all for 87.
#1982
^ What surprised me was that a lot of stations didn't have plus or premium. 87 only.
Was in Austin overnight on Monday night, regular was $2.259 in places
Filled up just east of the airport near Bastrop, 87 was $2.119, 93 was $2.719
Was in Austin overnight on Monday night, regular was $2.259 in places
Filled up just east of the airport near Bastrop, 87 was $2.119, 93 was $2.719
#1983
Harvey is having a big impact on gas here in DFW. Not only on price, which has been jacked up, but also availability.
News: "Gas prices are going up and availability is limited, some stations are temporarily running out of gas. GO GET GAS NOW!"
Everyone: "PANIC! Must go to gas station now AHHH"
Thanks to the media hyping it up, everyone is making a run on the gas stations and they are all being depleted. I was just out during lunch and passed by a Racetrac that was completely out and a Krogers and Chevron had lines 30 cars long. THE GAS WILL BE RESTOCKED it will just take a little longer than normal!
GasBuddy has a site - tracker.gasbuddy.com - that is helping track if stations have gas or don't. Most of them around my work and home don't right now. eek.
News: "Gas prices are going up and availability is limited, some stations are temporarily running out of gas. GO GET GAS NOW!"
Everyone: "PANIC! Must go to gas station now AHHH"
Thanks to the media hyping it up, everyone is making a run on the gas stations and they are all being depleted. I was just out during lunch and passed by a Racetrac that was completely out and a Krogers and Chevron had lines 30 cars long. THE GAS WILL BE RESTOCKED it will just take a little longer than normal!
GasBuddy has a site - tracker.gasbuddy.com - that is helping track if stations have gas or don't. Most of them around my work and home don't right now. eek.
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EvilVirus (09-01-2017)
#1986
Until things get back to some sort of normalcy for you folks, my advice is if you have an opportunity to get gas get it regardless if you have a 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4's of tank left... Learned my lesson with Sandy..
#1987
The mass panic doesn't help, but others online acting like we're perfectly fine isn't any better. People in the industry saying that there is a cause of concern, quoting how some vendors will be sourcing gas from Oklahoma to fill demand and another saying Dallas' suppliers that rely on Houston are experience a 25% shortage due to Harvey.
I filled up the Acura last night just to be safe through the weekend. I plan on filling the Z06 tonight as a secondary means; prices are probably gonna go up regardless of fuel supply being good or bad, now.
I filled up the Acura last night just to be safe through the weekend. I plan on filling the Z06 tonight as a secondary means; prices are probably gonna go up regardless of fuel supply being good or bad, now.
#1988
I really could care less about the price hike. If I have to pay an extra 50 cents or dollar per gallon (in the short term) to fill up, so be it. I just want to make sure I have enough to be able to get to work every day.
I'm thinking of waking up super early tomorrow morning, checking the gas buddy info, and stopping by stations that 'have' gas on my way to work.
I'm thinking of waking up super early tomorrow morning, checking the gas buddy info, and stopping by stations that 'have' gas on my way to work.
#1989
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From: SE Mass --- > Central VA --- > SE Mass
#1990
Prices have gone drastically up in the Charlotte area. Regular last week was $2.09, earlier this week it went to $2.39, and now it's $2.59. While it's a big jump, it's still cheaper than it was years ago
#1992
I decided to stop and get some gas at a QT on the way home, since I had less than a quarter tank. Police were directing traffic so there was only 1 line in. Took me about 40 min to wait in line. They only had 87 unleaded, and was something like 2.59 a gallon, so had to get that. Then got some octane booster to help.
I still think this panic is caused by the media and the run on the gas stations will stop soon.
I still think this panic is caused by the media and the run on the gas stations will stop soon.
#1993
I decided to stop and get some gas at a QT on the way home, since I had less than a quarter tank. Police were directing traffic so there was only 1 line in. Took me about 40 min to wait in line. They only had 87 unleaded, and was something like 2.59 a gallon, so had to get that. Then got some octane booster to help.
I still think this panic is caused by the media and the run on the gas stations will stop soon.
I still think this panic is caused by the media and the run on the gas stations will stop soon.
I mean, it's fucking nuts today. There's a video of 2 dudes fighting at 1 pump, and pics of another dude filling up giant ass water cooler jugs you see in an office with gas. People claiming, "If you filled up when you didn't need to, you help cause this". Yeah, nah mate as Ozzy Man says. I'm not waiting for gas to keep going up to finally get my share when my tank is empty. Paid $30 for a half a tank at a place I normally get gas from, same cost for a full tank regularly.
#1994
Almost 25% of U.S. refineries have shut down production because of Harvey. And the U.S.'s largest refiner (Motiva Enterprises) says it will probably remain offline for 2 weeks. Motiva represents almost 10% of U.S. refining capacity. That's going to push gas prices higher if supply cannot meet demand.
Shell 87 was $2.95 at the beginning of last week. It went to $2.99 this past Friday. It went to $3.09 today.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/31/larg...ks-report.html
And some pipelines are shut down too. Can't move gas to where it's needed if they're not running.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/31/gulf...main-shut.html
Shell 87 was $2.95 at the beginning of last week. It went to $2.99 this past Friday. It went to $3.09 today.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/31/larg...ks-report.html
Largest US refinery Motiva may be shut up to two weeks: Report
Published 16 Hours Ago
Motiva Enterprises' Port Arthur, Texas refinery, the nation's largest, may be shut as long as two weeks for assessment of the plant and repair of any damage, sources familiar with plant operations said on Thursday.
The 603,000 barrel per day (bpd) Port Arthur Refinery was shut on Wednesday due to flooding from Tropical Storm Harvey.
In a statement to CNBC, Motiva said it "cannot provide a timeline for restart at this time." The oil company says it will begin assessing the refinery "as soon as the local area flooding has receded," although Motive is uncertain about how long it will take for floodwaters to diminish.
Published 16 Hours Ago
Motiva Enterprises' Port Arthur, Texas refinery, the nation's largest, may be shut as long as two weeks for assessment of the plant and repair of any damage, sources familiar with plant operations said on Thursday.
The 603,000 barrel per day (bpd) Port Arthur Refinery was shut on Wednesday due to flooding from Tropical Storm Harvey.
In a statement to CNBC, Motiva said it "cannot provide a timeline for restart at this time." The oil company says it will begin assessing the refinery "as soon as the local area flooding has receded," although Motive is uncertain about how long it will take for floodwaters to diminish.
And some pipelines are shut down too. Can't move gas to where it's needed if they're not running.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/31/gulf...main-shut.html
Gulf Coast struggles to get gasoline flowing as refineries remain shut, starving pipelines of fuel
Published 13 Hours Ago
Texas refineries slammed by Harvey aimed to start back up on Thursday, but pipeline shutdowns and continued refinery outages in southeastern Texas and Louisiana hampered the effort to get fuel flowing to markets.
Refiners that took the brunt of Harvey's first landfall near Corpus Christi on Friday got the restart process underway on Wednesday. However, about 20 to 25 percent of U.S. refining capacity remains offline, creating problems in the pipeline systems that move gasoline and other fuel around the east half of the U.S.
Pipeline operators have been forced to throttle back or suspend flows of gasoline and other petroleum products.
The Colonial Pipeline Company also shut down part of critical lines that transport gasoline, diesel and aviation fuel from Houston through the southeast and up the East Coast to New Jersey. The closure prevented fuel flows along a stretch from Houston to Hebert, Texas.
The partial closure is due to a lack of supply from idled refineries, as well as storm damage to Colonial's facilities near Lake Charles, Louisiana, according to Colonial. Fuel deliveries will be intermittent and depend on its ability to receive supplies from refineries and terminals.
"Think of Colonial Pipeline like a garden hose. It needs to have so much in there as line fill to pump and to pump normally," said Tom Kloza, global head of energy analysis at Oil Price Information Service. "Clearly, they haven't been getting the injections from Texas, so that's going to be problematic heading through next week."
Lack of product is also preventing the Explorer pipeline from transporting fuel from Houston to Tulsa, Oklahoma, and onward to Chicago, according to Lipow.
While about 25 percent of total U.S. refining capacity is offline, something on the order of 40 percent of capacity that serves Americans east of the Rockies had been affected.
The worst-case scenario could be a price spike on the order of 40 to 60 cents that pushes gasoline prices to $2.60 to $2.75 per gallon.
Published 13 Hours Ago
Texas refineries slammed by Harvey aimed to start back up on Thursday, but pipeline shutdowns and continued refinery outages in southeastern Texas and Louisiana hampered the effort to get fuel flowing to markets.
Refiners that took the brunt of Harvey's first landfall near Corpus Christi on Friday got the restart process underway on Wednesday. However, about 20 to 25 percent of U.S. refining capacity remains offline, creating problems in the pipeline systems that move gasoline and other fuel around the east half of the U.S.
Pipeline operators have been forced to throttle back or suspend flows of gasoline and other petroleum products.
The Colonial Pipeline Company also shut down part of critical lines that transport gasoline, diesel and aviation fuel from Houston through the southeast and up the East Coast to New Jersey. The closure prevented fuel flows along a stretch from Houston to Hebert, Texas.
The partial closure is due to a lack of supply from idled refineries, as well as storm damage to Colonial's facilities near Lake Charles, Louisiana, according to Colonial. Fuel deliveries will be intermittent and depend on its ability to receive supplies from refineries and terminals.
"Think of Colonial Pipeline like a garden hose. It needs to have so much in there as line fill to pump and to pump normally," said Tom Kloza, global head of energy analysis at Oil Price Information Service. "Clearly, they haven't been getting the injections from Texas, so that's going to be problematic heading through next week."
Lack of product is also preventing the Explorer pipeline from transporting fuel from Houston to Tulsa, Oklahoma, and onward to Chicago, according to Lipow.
While about 25 percent of total U.S. refining capacity is offline, something on the order of 40 percent of capacity that serves Americans east of the Rockies had been affected.
The worst-case scenario could be a price spike on the order of 40 to 60 cents that pushes gasoline prices to $2.60 to $2.75 per gallon.
#1995
I've heard, at least for us here in TX, the supply is there.. we are not low on gas. It is just getting it to the stations that is a little slower than normal.
All of this because of fucking QT. They said they might be short on fuel... and that sparked all the news outlets to say we might be short on gas which caused everyone to watch to tell their friends and post online that we are running out of fuel which is causing a panic rush at the stations. Idiots.
All of this because of fucking QT. They said they might be short on fuel... and that sparked all the news outlets to say we might be short on gas which caused everyone to watch to tell their friends and post online that we are running out of fuel which is causing a panic rush at the stations. Idiots.
#1996
Catch-22 with this approach. People filling up when they don't need it is what leads towards shortages and people who do need fuel cannot fill up. On the flip-side, if you're down to 1/2 a tank and gas runs out... you're screwed too. Hopefully it won't come to that...
#1997
It's not the oil companies. It's the refineries. The slower they bring their refineries back online, the greater the crack spread. The greater the crack spread, the greater their profit margins. So it's not really in their best interest to bring them back online too fast.
#1999
^ Yeah, I think they're slowly starting to come back online. As long as a majority of the pipelines keep flowing, there won't be many shortages outside of the immediate Houston area either.
I know it's far away, but Hurricane Irma has me a little concerned...
I know it's far away, but Hurricane Irma has me a little concerned...
#2000
Got gas as Harvey was hitting and paid $2.05. Went to the same station yesterday... $2.59. All of our cars are full and I have a 5-gallon jug full of ethanol-free 90 octane left over from racing... so we should be good. They declared a state of emergency in NC to allow tankers to drive past their caps to deliver gas. No shortages here yet, but I'm sure if things don't settle with the refineries/pipelines in the next few days, you'll see some panic.
Catch-22 with this approach. People filling up when they don't need it is what leads towards shortages and people who do need fuel cannot fill up. On the flip-side, if you're down to 1/2 a tank and gas runs out... you're screwed too. Hopefully it won't come to that...
Catch-22 with this approach. People filling up when they don't need it is what leads towards shortages and people who do need fuel cannot fill up. On the flip-side, if you're down to 1/2 a tank and gas runs out... you're screwed too. Hopefully it won't come to that...
Then you had the people that were driving station to station filling up numerous 5 gal gas containers and stock piling them in their yard for the own private "reserve".. The way some people acted was disgusting and the things I found out that I would have never even though of were beyond nuts..