NSX photoshoot ***PICS***
07-09-2006, 05:15 PM
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Same kit...? This one is still not my cup o' tea...but, it seems improved...
07-09-2006, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AsianRage
You're outdated looking. 
I think the design of the NSX is less outdated than it could have been.
I think the design of the NSX is less outdated than it could have been.
Considering that it's what, 14 or 15 years old now, it still looks kinda modern. I mean it certainly doesn't look brand new, but look at some of the other exotics that are 10-15 yrs old and you can see how dated they look in comparison to the NSX.
07-27-2006, 04:35 PM
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Funny, I was browsing across the internet and happened to come upon my car on this thread.. from a recent photo shoot (the three shots above)
I should start by being forthcoming, being new to the community herein...
While I do respect everyone's opinions on vehicle aestetics... I've been on just about every car forum over the years long enough to deal with every imaginable car club enthusiast personality... and most definitely long enough to finally realize that any type of customization to any automobile, particularly import cars... is not going to be everyone's cup of tea and received well in the public arena- especially with stock purists, TV tuners, street racers, a/v accessory specialists whom measure success in the number of TV's they can install, guys older than my grand father, Harley owners, soccer moms, drag racers, auto crossers, haters, and/or more than anyone else the average intellectual know it all performance tuner whom spend more time posting on their respective car club forum than ever driving on an actual race track past an occasional club HPDE instruction day...
That said, the above pics were taken for a specific private magazine photoshoot, and outside of the NSXPRIME forums to my knowledge were not otherwise released for public comment. I was resistant to even having any type of exposure, as I know that no one aside from myself could ever truely appreciate the work that went into building it.
Having personally more than put the time and money in... I should chime in and at least say that I am personally elated with how my track car turned out after near 18 months of day to day construction. In my experience, apparently so is everyone I've come contact with that can make an arguable and compelling point that they have a personal history in sanctioned motorsports racing and thus have a validated opinon to offer. If that is not direct, I can always fall back to the day to day idiots I have to deal with on the motor way to the race track that seem to take a fancy creating traffic armageddon just to get a snap shot on their camera phone.
Thus, the opinon is respected by not shared by the majority are the facts, and I suppose so long as I am happy when I get in and drive it, that is what matters most.
So far as the vehicle itself.. the noticable feature being debated herein- the wide body kit is from Kawagen Route KS of Japan, and is a very balanced aero package.
Unlike more readily available applications... the NSX has next to zero off the shelf parts, meaning everything has to be custom fabricated one-off or imported from a few small vendors in Japan at great expense. For those handful of individuals through-out the world (all of about 100 or so) that invest the time, energy, and effort hand building their custom NSXes, I think some level of respect can be shown even if the body kit may not be your particular brand of tea. While I am not in anyway offended by any of the comments herein.. I do feel 'horrible' is a little over stated here. Should that not be reserved for something on the SRO Gallery section at least?
The kit was purchased because it was an integrated and well tested aerodynamic solution relative to most of the other blingy JDM offerings, offered excellent construction, ideal setup for short road courses, and could be extended on to suit my specific needs. Aside from some styling ques, it is not in anyway identical to most of the other kits which are usually 10 pieces from 7 different companies.
It is a limited production made to order complete wide body kit by Mr Kawai in Japan, whom is a huge track enthusiast, a great driver, and personal friends with many of the Honda test and JGTC drivers. The kit is designed foremost for aerodynamic function, having integrated the features that were found to work (e.g. reduce lap times).
If you believe that form follows function, than nothing else need be said. Overall, the results are impressive, and the vehicle handles and performs extremely well for a mildly modified NA application, the added downforce is very significant particularly in the wet, and the final assembly even having integrated full under paneling, shrouding, and ducting still tiped the longacre scales at 500lbs under the stock curb weight including a driver, full tank of gas, roll cage which most will tell you takes more than Buy-It-Now on an NSX.
It is funny to me that so many people see a body kit on an import forum and the discussion immediately turns to what a bumper looks like or if they like a wing or not. Who cares? Like any performance modification, it is but one small piece to a very large puzzle for those whom seek to accomplish something specific, and modify with purpose.
In closing, if you had an extra million in the bank to go racing.. you likely would be on AcuraZine fussing over members critiques over the aestetic details of your new Team Mugen Racing Super GT NSX's canards rivets or the like....
Always something to think about.
I should start by being forthcoming, being new to the community herein...
While I do respect everyone's opinions on vehicle aestetics... I've been on just about every car forum over the years long enough to deal with every imaginable car club enthusiast personality... and most definitely long enough to finally realize that any type of customization to any automobile, particularly import cars... is not going to be everyone's cup of tea and received well in the public arena- especially with stock purists, TV tuners, street racers, a/v accessory specialists whom measure success in the number of TV's they can install, guys older than my grand father, Harley owners, soccer moms, drag racers, auto crossers, haters, and/or more than anyone else the average intellectual know it all performance tuner whom spend more time posting on their respective car club forum than ever driving on an actual race track past an occasional club HPDE instruction day...
That said, the above pics were taken for a specific private magazine photoshoot, and outside of the NSXPRIME forums to my knowledge were not otherwise released for public comment. I was resistant to even having any type of exposure, as I know that no one aside from myself could ever truely appreciate the work that went into building it.
Having personally more than put the time and money in... I should chime in and at least say that I am personally elated with how my track car turned out after near 18 months of day to day construction. In my experience, apparently so is everyone I've come contact with that can make an arguable and compelling point that they have a personal history in sanctioned motorsports racing and thus have a validated opinon to offer. If that is not direct, I can always fall back to the day to day idiots I have to deal with on the motor way to the race track that seem to take a fancy creating traffic armageddon just to get a snap shot on their camera phone.
Thus, the opinon is respected by not shared by the majority are the facts, and I suppose so long as I am happy when I get in and drive it, that is what matters most.
So far as the vehicle itself.. the noticable feature being debated herein- the wide body kit is from Kawagen Route KS of Japan, and is a very balanced aero package.
Unlike more readily available applications... the NSX has next to zero off the shelf parts, meaning everything has to be custom fabricated one-off or imported from a few small vendors in Japan at great expense. For those handful of individuals through-out the world (all of about 100 or so) that invest the time, energy, and effort hand building their custom NSXes, I think some level of respect can be shown even if the body kit may not be your particular brand of tea. While I am not in anyway offended by any of the comments herein.. I do feel 'horrible' is a little over stated here. Should that not be reserved for something on the SRO Gallery section at least?
The kit was purchased because it was an integrated and well tested aerodynamic solution relative to most of the other blingy JDM offerings, offered excellent construction, ideal setup for short road courses, and could be extended on to suit my specific needs. Aside from some styling ques, it is not in anyway identical to most of the other kits which are usually 10 pieces from 7 different companies.
It is a limited production made to order complete wide body kit by Mr Kawai in Japan, whom is a huge track enthusiast, a great driver, and personal friends with many of the Honda test and JGTC drivers. The kit is designed foremost for aerodynamic function, having integrated the features that were found to work (e.g. reduce lap times).
If you believe that form follows function, than nothing else need be said. Overall, the results are impressive, and the vehicle handles and performs extremely well for a mildly modified NA application, the added downforce is very significant particularly in the wet, and the final assembly even having integrated full under paneling, shrouding, and ducting still tiped the longacre scales at 500lbs under the stock curb weight including a driver, full tank of gas, roll cage which most will tell you takes more than Buy-It-Now on an NSX.
It is funny to me that so many people see a body kit on an import forum and the discussion immediately turns to what a bumper looks like or if they like a wing or not. Who cares? Like any performance modification, it is but one small piece to a very large puzzle for those whom seek to accomplish something specific, and modify with purpose.
In closing, if you had an extra million in the bank to go racing.. you likely would be on AcuraZine fussing over members critiques over the aestetic details of your new Team Mugen Racing Super GT NSX's canards rivets or the like....
Always something to think about.
Last edited by John@Microsoft; 07-27-2006 at 04:39 PM.
07-27-2006, 04:46 PM
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If the car is a track car, then certain mods are fine, such as you have done with your car.
But the first car is a show car so some of that stuff seems outragous (i.e. massive wing). And the fitiment on the kit on the first one is horrible as well which seems to be what many are complaining about, unlike the kit on your car.
Question though, whats with the no gas door?
But the first car is a show car so some of that stuff seems outragous (i.e. massive wing). And the fitiment on the kit on the first one is horrible as well which seems to be what many are complaining about, unlike the kit on your car.
Question though, whats with the no gas door?
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07-27-2006, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
If the car is a track car, then certain mods are fine, such as you have done with your car.
But the first car is a show car so some of that stuff seems outragous (i.e. massive wing). And the fitiment on the kit on the first one is horrible as well which seems to be what many are complaining about, unlike the kit on your car.
Question though, whats with the no gas door?
But the first car is a show car so some of that stuff seems outragous (i.e. massive wing). And the fitiment on the kit on the first one is horrible as well which seems to be what many are complaining about, unlike the kit on your car.
Question though, whats with the no gas door?
). It's an FRP kit they pulled from a mold of some other parts years back. Styling differences aside, the fit is noticably rougher that the Kawagen, I've seen a few of them (A to B'd them both) and it would be a tall order to get that specific kit looking OEM quality IMO if that is your intention. I would say the Cantrell kit is about a 5/10 and the I've been told by some of the best in the business that Kawagen is about as good as your going to get. Of course.. their is a significant price difference as well. The Kawagen kit costs about twice as much. As with any of the higher end Japanese body kits, customers won't always get what they think they are paying for, and the vast majority of the wide body kits in terms of fit quality on many of these applications are usually not so good being designed foremost for function as opposed to Hot Import Nights... being usually being pulled from one-off molds and being little more than vacume bagged fiberglass lay-up. Not the Amuse dry carbon at 5G's just for a door panel or the Dome factory kit you would secretly be hoping for.
In general, I wouldn't be so quick to judge any kit by its perceived panel fit in a picture. The real bottom line is that some times some cars just have the body time put into them and some times they just don't. Some customers require OEM Show Quality and others race quality is good enough.
In my experience, working with customers, and personally having assembled 3 wide body kits in the last 3 years... the usual culprit is that the customer put together pieces from many different manufactuers, and ended up having to duraglass and fill in sections to make the pieces work and thus didn't have the resources to be attentive to the smaller details. Another contributing factor is that the average wide body kit installations for the higher end JDM applications usually run about $20-25K or so between parts and labor, and often times commercial body shops won't put the attention to detail in if they are a walk-in customer as their bread and butter work is far more profitable to fuss over details from an anal retentive car enthusiast.
In my case, personally I get light fiberglass damage all the time with the car as low as it is that needs repaired literally every week... and as the car may well come completely apart every single year anyway for safety inspection, modifications, and further assembly work (myself included) I am entirely oblivous.
Last edited by John@Microsoft; 07-27-2006 at 05:15 PM.
07-27-2006, 05:51 PM
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The first kit in my opinion looks horrible. Regardless of what its for, race, show, w/e its ugly. On top of that the fit is horrible, i dont care why its like that, its horrible and anyone that puts something like that on there car and doesnt see to it that it fits well deserves all the reticule they get, regardless of the thousands they put into it And you say that we are being critical and what not about the first kit, but isnt that the point of a show car? its for show, its there so we can sit and look at it and reticule or admire it all we want. And ur acting like everyone here said it belongs in a dump. The majority of the people said it looks good except for a particular thing, ie wing or bumper. Now as for your car, i am a huge fan of the JGTC look and am very impressed by how it looks and by the fact that you drive it on the streets to the track, that i can appreciate, if you even do u weren't clear. That being said dont come in here rolling your eyes and dissing us for having an opinion on a cars wing or bumper or for not tracking our cars every day like you do, some of us dont have the resources to do so.
And you say that we are being critical and what not about the first kit, but isnt that the point of a show car? its for show, its there so we can sit and look at it and reticule or admire it all we want. And ur acting like everyone here said it belongs in a dump. The majority of the people said it looks good except for a particular thing, ie wing or bumper. Now as for your car, i am a huge fan of the JGTC look and am very impressed by how it looks and by the fact that you drive it on the streets to the track, that i can appreciate, if you even do u weren't clear. That being said dont come in here rolling your eyes and dissing us for having an opinion on a cars wing or bumper or for not tracking our cars every day like you do, some of us dont have the resources to do so.
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07-27-2006, 07:16 PM
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I think the car looks like poopy. 
Hate the wing, front uhh... end, including those fenders.... oh, nevermind. I'll just stick with
Never ceases to amaze me how people car fuck up an otherwise perfectly beautiful car.
Hate the wing, front uhh... end, including those fenders.... oh, nevermind. I'll just stick with Never ceases to amaze me how people car fuck up an otherwise perfectly beautiful car.
08-04-2006, 08:04 AM
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i liked the NSX. it has a unique widebody although i would rather go for the "Burn-Up" front bumper. But they make that for the older model NSX not the new style front end. The Cantrell studios kit like the one on the first post is nice. the fitment issues are thoughs of the body shop. the company itself that makes the body kit are part of the equasion but the body shop that installs it can fix all that flaws. but i never ever thought that the nsx was an outdated car. I mean im always jealous of an owner of the nsx since its been my dream car for a long time. no matter what people say even a car as 16 years old it will always turn a head regardless of what people say. its like seeing a ferrari for the first time on the road. THe nsx is one of the ultimate cars. even though its underpowered like if you were to watch the Best motoring Dvds as i have learned so much from them. the NSX has enough tools to compete with some of the top cars in japan even with european super cars. the NSX-R is by far one of the best Exotic super cars of japan. if Keichi Tsuchiya owns many of them id say its one of the best cars from japan. just my 2 cents. i just love the NSX and i dont think it is outdated. since it will never rust!!! LOL
08-04-2006, 12:57 PM
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Just an interesting read, a wikipedia entry on the NSX for those who want to read it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NSX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_NSX
In Popular Culture
In Quentin Tarantino's 1994 film Pulp Fiction, Harvey Keitel's character, Winston Wolf, drives this vehicle, identifying it as an Acura. In the film, Wolf completes a typically thirty-minute drive through Los Angeles in "nine minutes and 37 seconds".
The NSX was also featured in an episode of the popular Seinfeld show "The Muffin Tops" Episode 155, where Elaine needed help to dispose of the muffin stumps. A black NSX slides around the corner and parks. Postman Newman plays a perfect homage to The Wolf, as he emerges, enters the muffin store, and proceeds to solve Elaine's problem.
The NSX appears in many videogames that bear roadgoing cars, most notably Gran Turismo.
In 2005 the BBC Two motoring program presenter Jeremy Clarkson attempted to defeat his Gran Turismo 4 lap time around Laguna Seca in an Acura NSX. He ultimately failed but he wanted to send the recently discontinued NSX out in style.
Oracle Corporation's CEO Larry Ellison is a long time fan of the NSX and has owned several. He prefers the NSX over his Ferrari. He reportedly gives several NSXs as gifts each year.
The NSX-R is one of Keiichi Tsuchiya's favourite cars; he personally owns an NSX and holds the Usui course (his touge homecourse) record with a NSX-R. Tsuchiya can be seen practising in an earlier model on the racetrack in the final installment of the Shuto Kousoku Trial film, Shuto Kousoku Trial Max.
In Quentin Tarantino's 1994 film Pulp Fiction, Harvey Keitel's character, Winston Wolf, drives this vehicle, identifying it as an Acura. In the film, Wolf completes a typically thirty-minute drive through Los Angeles in "nine minutes and 37 seconds".
The NSX was also featured in an episode of the popular Seinfeld show "The Muffin Tops" Episode 155, where Elaine needed help to dispose of the muffin stumps. A black NSX slides around the corner and parks. Postman Newman plays a perfect homage to The Wolf, as he emerges, enters the muffin store, and proceeds to solve Elaine's problem.
The NSX appears in many videogames that bear roadgoing cars, most notably Gran Turismo.
In 2005 the BBC Two motoring program presenter Jeremy Clarkson attempted to defeat his Gran Turismo 4 lap time around Laguna Seca in an Acura NSX. He ultimately failed but he wanted to send the recently discontinued NSX out in style.
Oracle Corporation's CEO Larry Ellison is a long time fan of the NSX and has owned several. He prefers the NSX over his Ferrari. He reportedly gives several NSXs as gifts each year.
The NSX-R is one of Keiichi Tsuchiya's favourite cars; he personally owns an NSX and holds the Usui course (his touge homecourse) record with a NSX-R. Tsuchiya can be seen practising in an earlier model on the racetrack in the final installment of the Shuto Kousoku Trial film, Shuto Kousoku Trial Max.
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