Booya4139

Any opinions on this... Appears to check a bunch of boxes of my needs and has a semi reasonable MSRP given how nice it seems. Ford ecoboost engine and ZF 9 speed transmission same as the Evoque which has received pretty decent reviews on reliability.

Booya4139

NSXNEXT

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Who makes the electronics?
I would lease one in a heartbeat but never buy. Historically reliability is

NBP04TL4ME

I personally would never own a Land Rover regardless of the model. I understand the history and to a certain extent the prestige, but as Whiskers mentions, reliability has been poor at best and there is nothing in the line up that does anything for me. I think the Evoque is an atrocity. I will get off my soapbox now.

OP - definitely consider a lease

What boxes does the Discovery Sport check for you?

justnspace

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I was sad to learn that the SPort means turbo lag.

Flipster23

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I would never own one. But that's just me.

Chief F1 Fan

All things Land Rover tick good boxes for me (looks, utility, prestige, etc.) but they are a cluster when it to ergonomics, reliability, etc. The one vehicle make I'm drawn to that I will never buy.

juniorbean

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Every time we see a nice one on the road my wife sighs. We love the way they look, but we would never buy one. I've even heard of people having better Jaguar experiences... so that should tell you something...

SamDoe1

OP, what exactly are you looking for? The Disco Sport is more of a mall crawler than other Land Rovers are (especially the real Disco).

FWIW, I checked out one of these when I was looking at the Cherokee/Grand Cherokee and liked both of those a lot more. You get a lot more for your money with the Jeeps and get just as much (if not more) capability out of them.

If you want a LR, buy the range.

Chief F1 Fan

Except every Jeep vehicle is on the Do Not Buy list for consumers

oonowindoo

Not sure if I have ever told this story before on here.

But one of my friend's newer LR caught on fire while we were in the car on the way back from Vegas....
Reason for the fire: unknown, just because

So yah, nice but no thank you

Will Y.

nokiaman

I'm going to go against the tide here OP, and recommend it to you. I am on my third Land Rover vehicle (1 Sport, 2 Full Sizes) and I have been nothing but positively surprised. While I do agree that Land/Range Rovers tend to be lower on the reliability list, I wouldn't completely cross it off the list. Your experience might be a positive one.

Chief F1 Fan

^^^ coin toss time, 50/50 chance of a good outcome?

00TL-P3.2

No personal, nor anecdotal experience. But there is a new Disco Sport running around near my house. Not a bad looking SUV, but seems more in line with the Evoque, rather than the RR or a continuation of the old Disco.

ThermonMermon

i checked one out. Car looks phenomenal. However, there are some compromises.

Couple things to note:

1. IMO, i would recommend to lease, not buy. And the lease gets pretty hefty if you compare the lease payments with some of the competition. Rule of thumb for a good lease is about $100/mo per $10k MSRP (assuming you roll the down payment in). You will find some disappointment here.
2. You really need to step up to the mid-$40k level to get some of the luxury basics.
3. The glass roof does not open, creating a greenhouse effect. Additionally, the glass portion starts about 4-5" further back than a standard moonroof, so if you look up from the drivers position, you see nothing but the roof/visor. You need to spin your head back to even see out of the glass. Really, the roof could only really be appreciated when you are parked.
4. The center dash material is hard/hollow plastic. Something you would find from a mainstream brand 5+ years ago.
5. Some other build quality issues - i.e. the plastic grille is so flimsy, it would snap if you leaned on it with your body weight.
6. Significant turbo lag.

RedRyder

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I love LR but wouldn't buy one unless I either had deep pockets, or I myself or someone I know knew how to work on them. Reliability is certainly better, but still will be expensive to maintain/own.


My thoughts exactly. Though the older models that were more boxy/utilitarian looking still hold a special place in my heart. Especially these Discoveries, I used to drive them for a rental car company and loved them. Still looks great imo, I don't like how a lot of newer SUV's resemble minivans (i.e. Pilot).

myron

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people are swapping LS engines into these and I am pretty sure there are some kits out there. With a LS it would be a pretty sweet vehicle to own. Otherwise, nope!!!
And the new ones are just overpriced pieces of shit IMO.

SamDoe1

And Land Rovers aren't?

The older Jeeps made exclusively by Chrysler are crap. The newer ones that leverage Fiat/Mercedes technology are MUCH better.

Booya4139

A mall crawler for my wife. Some versatility with the crappy 3rd row for when we have our second kid. I've been steering her towards a 14'15' MDX, new pilot, or a new explorer. She likes the lexus GX, but im not looking to get into the 50's... rather top out low 40's and if i can get a CPO 1 year old or so for around 40 or below would be happy.

Been trying to explain that supreme offroad capability isn't necessary for running to the grocery store or bringing the kid around, and that we would be paying for functionality that is completely unneeded.

Love the looks of the DS, wary of the build pedigree, but the evoque seems like its been decently sturdy and has the same drivetrain

SamDoe1

^ I'd recommend the Explorer/Explorer sport or Durango if you want three rows and not appear to be a minivan (though all three row crossovers are essentially lifted minivans).

MDX is solid, only Acura I'd buy right now. The new Pilot is also quite nice on the inside.

I'd pick all of those over the DS, you don't get anything more from it and pay a premium for the badge.

Chief F1 Fan

So yesterday I went to landrover.com and built one of these for shits 'n giggles. They have a lot of nerve attaching "Sport" to its name since nothing about it except for maybe styling, lends itself to sportiness, certainly not the available power plants. Main reason to never buy one now: Never buy a vehicle in its first year of production, especially when the manufacturer already has a shaky reliability rating.

ThermonMermon

agreed. the power plant is sourced from a ford escape - and it's nothing new. To be honest, the build quality in the interior of the LR is probably on par with the ford escape, sans some surfaces that have better leather/materials. My general take-away was that the Disco Sport margins must be really, really fat.

Booya4139

I'm with you... On paper im liking the durango, but never owned a dodge and generally prefer ford if im going american.

Will only buy an MDX with the 3.5DI, entirely from knowledge gleaned from this forum.

I've held off on test drives until january as my wife tends to get emotionally connected so i want to be ready to pull the trigger. Given the laundry list of due diligence and test drives from all the makes im considering hopefully dragging it out will counter the emotional impulses that will start occuring after the first test drive

Booya4139

Pros:
Looks great

Cons:

LR reliability
1st year model
Small compared to competitors (3rd row needed)
Expensive


So basically its like that hot vapid chick in college who seems like a great idea on a drunken saturday night, and a less awesome idea by the next wednesday

neuronbob

Correct.

Don't do it.

ThermonMermon

Let's put it this way - the LR2 was a flop due to interior build. Generally speaking, the reviews were - this car is $40k!?

No lesson learned for this new Disco Sport. They have dipped even further into the parts bin, and put it in a nicer wrapper. The interior build is more or less on the same level as the LR2. The car has grown in size, and now it's $45k+ (with basic options).

Like most LRs/RRs, in order to pull the trigger, your craving for one needs to outweigh common sense.

Curious3GTL

I have yet to read a good review on the 9 speed ZF.

Bdog

It's a Land Rover, still made in England and it only has the 2.0L 4-cylinder engine right now. For less money, more power and better reliability I'd get a Ford Edge Sport.

Booya4139

Just read about the new CX-9 from Mazda.. Looks nice (genesis front end, sort of a miata-ish rear) Interior looks very nice.

2.5T, makes 310 TQ at 2000 rpm. Will make it very drivable, but 250HP. 20/28 MPG.

Goes on sale in spring, wonder what pricing will look like

Booya4139

Flipster23

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Don't feel bad I did my share of due diligence before I bought my Explorer..

1killercls

I was going to say...save some serious coin and buy an Explorer. I rode in my buddies the other day...I'm no SUV guy..but it was sweet!

Booya4139

Oh I'd say more likely than not heading in that direction. This latest bout came after the wife went to a moms group and they all had lexus SUV's, which generated a bout of badge whoring vanity... She does really like the explorer, more than the MDX.

I love cars and love overanalyzing these types of decisions, so im having a fun time with my research. Worth turning over every stone at least for my own amusement.

Kense

Go with the Explorer Sport. Range Rover = Disaster

Booya4139

Wary of the engine although i'd love it during the warranty. I go in with the mindset i will try to get 8-10 years out of the car. I'd probably go with the Limited Explorer with the V6, but i'd also like to drive the ecoboost.

Kense

The Sport Twin Turbo engine right? Yeah understandable, although I haven't heard anything bad yet. The sport just looks so much better though.

Booya4139

Went with an MDX advance white/black. Being built now hoping to get it end of January. Will post pics if people care

oonowindoo

That is a big change..

not saying MDX is a bad car but it is not in the same league as LR.

neuronbob

MDX is a solid choice. Big fan of the SH-AWD, drives like a car. It will definitely last longer than a LR Disco of any type. Enjoy it!