New Land Rover Discovery Sport?
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New Land Rover Discovery Sport?
Any opinions on this... Appears to check a bunch of boxes of my needs and has a semi reasonable MSRP given how nice it seems. Ford ecoboost engine and ZF 9 speed transmission same as the Evoque which has received pretty decent reviews on reliability.
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I personally would never own a Land Rover regardless of the model. I understand the history and to a certain extent the prestige, but as Whiskers mentions, reliability has been poor at best and there is nothing in the line up that does anything for me. I think the Evoque is an atrocity. I will get off my soapbox now.
OP - definitely consider a lease
What boxes does the Discovery Sport check for you?
OP - definitely consider a lease
What boxes does the Discovery Sport check for you?
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All things Land Rover tick good boxes for me (looks, utility, prestige, etc.) but they are a cluster when it to ergonomics, reliability, etc. The one vehicle make I'm drawn to that I will never buy.
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OP, what exactly are you looking for? The Disco Sport is more of a mall crawler than other Land Rovers are (especially the real Disco).
FWIW, I checked out one of these when I was looking at the Cherokee/Grand Cherokee and liked both of those a lot more. You get a lot more for your money with the Jeeps and get just as much (if not more) capability out of them.
If you want a LR, buy the range.
FWIW, I checked out one of these when I was looking at the Cherokee/Grand Cherokee and liked both of those a lot more. You get a lot more for your money with the Jeeps and get just as much (if not more) capability out of them.
If you want a LR, buy the range.
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Except every Jeep vehicle is on the Do Not Buy list for consumers
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Not sure if I have ever told this story before on here.
But one of my friend's newer LR caught on fire while we were in the car on the way back from Vegas....
Reason for the fire: unknown, just because
So yah, nice but no thank you
But one of my friend's newer LR caught on fire while we were in the car on the way back from Vegas....
Reason for the fire: unknown, just because
So yah, nice but no thank you
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I'm going to go against the tide here OP, and recommend it to you. I am on my third Land Rover vehicle (1 Sport, 2 Full Sizes) and I have been nothing but positively surprised. While I do agree that Land/Range Rovers tend to be lower on the reliability list, I wouldn't completely cross it off the list. Your experience might be a positive one.
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^^^ coin toss time, 50/50 chance of a good outcome?
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No personal, nor anecdotal experience. But there is a new Disco Sport running around near my house. Not a bad looking SUV, but seems more in line with the Evoque, rather than the RR or a continuation of the old Disco.
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i checked one out. Car looks phenomenal. However, there are some compromises.
Couple things to note:
1. IMO, i would recommend to lease, not buy. And the lease gets pretty hefty if you compare the lease payments with some of the competition. Rule of thumb for a good lease is about $100/mo per $10k MSRP (assuming you roll the down payment in). You will find some disappointment here.
2. You really need to step up to the mid-$40k level to get some of the luxury basics.
3. The glass roof does not open, creating a greenhouse effect. Additionally, the glass portion starts about 4-5" further back than a standard moonroof, so if you look up from the drivers position, you see nothing but the roof/visor. You need to spin your head back to even see out of the glass. Really, the roof could only really be appreciated when you are parked.
4. The center dash material is hard/hollow plastic. Something you would find from a mainstream brand 5+ years ago.
5. Some other build quality issues - i.e. the plastic grille is so flimsy, it would snap if you leaned on it with your body weight.
6. Significant turbo lag.
Couple things to note:
1. IMO, i would recommend to lease, not buy. And the lease gets pretty hefty if you compare the lease payments with some of the competition. Rule of thumb for a good lease is about $100/mo per $10k MSRP (assuming you roll the down payment in). You will find some disappointment here.
2. You really need to step up to the mid-$40k level to get some of the luxury basics.
3. The glass roof does not open, creating a greenhouse effect. Additionally, the glass portion starts about 4-5" further back than a standard moonroof, so if you look up from the drivers position, you see nothing but the roof/visor. You need to spin your head back to even see out of the glass. Really, the roof could only really be appreciated when you are parked.
4. The center dash material is hard/hollow plastic. Something you would find from a mainstream brand 5+ years ago.
5. Some other build quality issues - i.e. the plastic grille is so flimsy, it would snap if you leaned on it with your body weight.
6. Significant turbo lag.
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I love LR but wouldn't buy one unless I either had deep pockets, or I myself or someone I know knew how to work on them. Reliability is certainly better, but still will be expensive to maintain/own.
My thoughts exactly. Though the older models that were more boxy/utilitarian looking still hold a special place in my heart. Especially these Discoveries, I used to drive them for a rental car company and loved them. Still looks great imo, I don't like how a lot of newer SUV's resemble minivans (i.e. Pilot).
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I love LR but wouldn't buy one unless I either had deep pockets, or I myself or someone I know knew how to work on them. Reliability is certainly better, but still will be expensive to maintain/own.
My thoughts exactly. Though the older models that were more boxy/utilitarian looking still hold a special place in my heart. Especially these Discoveries, I used to drive them for a rental car company and loved them. Still looks great imo, I don't like how a lot of newer SUV's resemble minivans (i.e. Pilot).
My thoughts exactly. Though the older models that were more boxy/utilitarian looking still hold a special place in my heart. Especially these Discoveries, I used to drive them for a rental car company and loved them. Still looks great imo, I don't like how a lot of newer SUV's resemble minivans (i.e. Pilot).
And the new ones are just overpriced pieces of shit IMO.
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OP, what exactly are you looking for? The Disco Sport is more of a mall crawler than other Land Rovers are (especially the real Disco).
FWIW, I checked out one of these when I was looking at the Cherokee/Grand Cherokee and liked both of those a lot more. You get a lot more for your money with the Jeeps and get just as much (if not more) capability out of them.
If you want a LR, buy the range.
FWIW, I checked out one of these when I was looking at the Cherokee/Grand Cherokee and liked both of those a lot more. You get a lot more for your money with the Jeeps and get just as much (if not more) capability out of them.
If you want a LR, buy the range.
Been trying to explain that supreme offroad capability isn't necessary for running to the grocery store or bringing the kid around, and that we would be paying for functionality that is completely unneeded.
Love the looks of the DS, wary of the build pedigree, but the evoque seems like its been decently sturdy and has the same drivetrain
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^ I'd recommend the Explorer/Explorer sport or Durango if you want three rows and not appear to be a minivan (though all three row crossovers are essentially lifted minivans).
MDX is solid, only Acura I'd buy right now. The new Pilot is also quite nice on the inside.
I'd pick all of those over the DS, you don't get anything more from it and pay a premium for the badge.
MDX is solid, only Acura I'd buy right now. The new Pilot is also quite nice on the inside.
I'd pick all of those over the DS, you don't get anything more from it and pay a premium for the badge.
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So yesterday I went to landrover.com and built one of these for shits 'n giggles. They have a lot of nerve attaching "Sport" to its name since nothing about it except for maybe styling, lends itself to sportiness, certainly not the available power plants. Main reason to never buy one now: Never buy a vehicle in its first year of production, especially when the manufacturer already has a shaky reliability rating.
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So yesterday I went to landrover.com and built one of these for shits 'n giggles. They have a lot of nerve attaching "Sport" to its name since nothing about it except for maybe styling, lends itself to sportiness, certainly not the available power plants. Main reason to never buy one now: Never buy a vehicle in its first year of production, especially when the manufacturer already has a shaky reliability rating.
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^ I'd recommend the Explorer/Explorer sport or Durango if you want three rows and not appear to be a minivan (though all three row crossovers are essentially lifted minivans).
MDX is solid, only Acura I'd buy right now. The new Pilot is also quite nice on the inside.
I'd pick all of those over the DS, you don't get anything more from it and pay a premium for the badge.
MDX is solid, only Acura I'd buy right now. The new Pilot is also quite nice on the inside.
I'd pick all of those over the DS, you don't get anything more from it and pay a premium for the badge.
Will only buy an MDX with the 3.5DI, entirely from knowledge gleaned from this forum.
I've held off on test drives until january as my wife tends to get emotionally connected so i want to be ready to pull the trigger. Given the laundry list of due diligence and test drives from all the makes im considering hopefully dragging it out will counter the emotional impulses that will start occuring after the first test drive
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agreed. the power plant is sourced from a ford escape - and it's nothing new. To be honest, the build quality in the interior of the LR is probably on par with the ford escape, sans some surfaces that have better leather/materials. My general take-away was that the Disco Sport margins must be really, really fat.
Looks great
Cons:
LR reliability
1st year model
Small compared to competitors (3rd row needed)
Expensive
So basically its like that hot vapid chick in college who seems like a great idea on a drunken saturday night, and a less awesome idea by the next wednesday
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Correct.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
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Let's put it this way - the LR2 was a flop due to interior build. Generally speaking, the reviews were - this car is $40k!?
No lesson learned for this new Disco Sport. They have dipped even further into the parts bin, and put it in a nicer wrapper. The interior build is more or less on the same level as the LR2. The car has grown in size, and now it's $45k+ (with basic options).
Like most LRs/RRs, in order to pull the trigger, your craving for one needs to outweigh common sense.
No lesson learned for this new Disco Sport. They have dipped even further into the parts bin, and put it in a nicer wrapper. The interior build is more or less on the same level as the LR2. The car has grown in size, and now it's $45k+ (with basic options).
Like most LRs/RRs, in order to pull the trigger, your craving for one needs to outweigh common sense.
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It's a Land Rover, still made in England and it only has the 2.0L 4-cylinder engine right now. For less money, more power and better reliability I'd get a Ford Edge Sport.
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Just read about the new CX-9 from Mazda.. Looks nice (genesis front end, sort of a miata-ish rear) Interior looks very nice.
2.5T, makes 310 TQ at 2000 rpm. Will make it very drivable, but 250HP. 20/28 MPG.
Goes on sale in spring, wonder what pricing will look like
2.5T, makes 310 TQ at 2000 rpm. Will make it very drivable, but 250HP. 20/28 MPG.
Goes on sale in spring, wonder what pricing will look like
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I love cars and love overanalyzing these types of decisions, so im having a fun time with my research. Worth turning over every stone at least for my own amusement.
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Go with the Explorer Sport. Range Rover = Disaster
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Wary of the engine although i'd love it during the warranty. I go in with the mindset i will try to get 8-10 years out of the car. I'd probably go with the Limited Explorer with the V6, but i'd also like to drive the ecoboost.
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The Sport Twin Turbo engine right? Yeah understandable, although I haven't heard anything bad yet. The sport just looks so much better though.
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That is a big change..
not saying MDX is a bad car but it is not in the same league as LR.
not saying MDX is a bad car but it is not in the same league as LR.
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MDX is a solid choice. Big fan of the SH-AWD, drives like a car. It will definitely last longer than a LR Disco of any type. Enjoy it!
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