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Old 08-15-2011, 12:21 PM
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My mom's friend never changed her car's engine oil..

Her friend is getting a new car

Budget $40-45k
Sedan
Will probably keep it for more than +8-10 years
Comfort >>>> Sporty

Any suggestions?

I just can't think of anything else other than Genesis Sedan. How's the long-term reliability on this?
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A bicycle.

Clearly she's too irresponsible to take care of a car.

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Since it debuted in '09, I don't think you can confirm long term reliability. The consensus out there is it will be very good, equal with or even past Honda standards.
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Long-term reliability generally involves routine maintenance.
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Oh shit, get her an electric car. No fluids to maintain besides blinker fluid.
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^ not changing the engine oil was a joke

FAIL ME

Isn't Lexus coming out with a new ES within a year or two? Just curious. I thought that would be a nice pick too.

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Since it debuted in '09, I don't think you can confirm long term reliability. The consensus out there is it will be very good, equal with or even past Honda standards.
Yes, I just wanted to get some insights on it.

Do they still offer that 10 years warranty program? That should work pretty well for her.

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^ not changing the engine oil was a joke

FAIL ME

Isn't Lexus coming out with a new ES within a year or two? Just curious. I thought that would be a nice pick too.


That's just a little too plausible for a woman ... My bad
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I've actually known people who didn't ever change their oil, specifically a Suburban that eventually broke down at 23,000 miles. The worst part is GM covered the whole thing..
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Originally Posted by charliemike


That's just a little too plausible for a woman ... My bad
It's all good.

Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
I've actually known people who didn't ever change their oil, specifically a Suburban that eventually broke down at 23,000 miles. The worst part is GM covered the whole thing..
It's amazingly how GM covers that..... I don't know if that's a smart or dumb move by GM.
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^ For Genesis sedans too, correct?
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I had a buddy who bought a 1976 Celica used in 1983, then did not change the oil for about 6 years.
I found out when I asked him about changing the oil before selling the car-- he said, "Change the oil?? Is that something cars need?" No wonder he never asked me to help him with changing the oil, etc.

Lexus ES, Toyota Avalon, Acura RL...

The 4G TL and BMWs may have a stiffer ride than desired.

CTS, Buick, low-end MB E or higher end C may also work, but IDK if they are particularly reliable.
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^ For Genesis sedans too, correct?

I believe so...
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Originally Posted by JS + MS3
^ not changing the engine oil was a joke

FAIL ME

Isn't Lexus coming out with a new ES within a year or two? Just curious. I thought that would be a nice pick too.
Originally Posted by charliemike


That's just a little too plausible for a woman ... My bad
Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
I've actually known people who didn't ever change their oil, specifically a Suburban that eventually broke down at 23,000 miles. The worst part is GM covered the whole thing..
I have heard about people doing this too I thought you were really serious
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tell her to pay you 40-46k to drive her around.
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RL ftw. My , but I am biased.

FWIW, the wiki encyclopedia says, "Hyundai conceived the idea for the Genesis in 2003. The body design took three years and the total cost of the program was $500 million over a development period of 23 months. Reliability testing ran for 800,000 miles."
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Originally Posted by JS + MS3
Her friend is getting a new car

Budget $40-45k
Sedan
Will probably keep it for more than +8-10 years
Comfort >>>> Sporty

Any suggestions?

I just can't think of anything else other than Genesis Sedan. How's the long-term reliability on this?
Does she need a larger sedan or something RL sized? Does it need to be new?

I'd suggest the Acura RL, Infiniti M35, Hyundai Genesis as a start. Then as well I would look into the Equus and maybe a used 5 series or 750i or a used E class (with warranties on each respectively)
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^ Thanks.

She wants something brand new with adequate trunk space. TL or RL size should be good enough I believe.

Does anybody have an idea of how comfortable M35 suspension is? I have this perception of it being pretty hard. I know it's an awesome car though.

I really want her to get a Genesis sedan with that great warranty program, but she still has that bad perception of Hyundai cars... and she Korean...

I'll be telling her to make sure to check it out at least before making a final decision. So, hopefully she'll fall in love with it once she gets to see it and drive it.
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well thats typical..

my parents were a bit skeptical with me getting a hyundai too..

but they chose my coupe over the accord coupe.. so.. prus 1 to them.
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^ I know. I mean that's how bad Hyundai cars were Pre-Genesis era.

Now, it's entirely different brand! Props to Hyundai.
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Originally Posted by charliemike
A bicycle.

Clearly she's too irresponsible to take care of a car.

Women
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No one's asked yet? Way to show some restraint.
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No one's asked yet? Way to show some restraint.
Seriously. It's almost the second page.
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Genesis Sedan
Nissan Maxima
Mazda 6
Acura TL
Acura RL (not sure of current pricepoint)
Acura TSX (save some scratch)
Toyota Avalon
Lexus ES or GS. At that price she's got a lot of options!
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Originally Posted by rockstar143
Genesis Sedan (1st choice for sure!)
Nissan Maxima (pretty good choice too)
Mazda 6 (I think she deserves some more luxury car at her age )
Acura TL (too ugly to suggest)
Acura RL (I'm curious about the price point as well)
Acura TSX (maybe)
Toyota Avalon & Lexus ES (good choices!)
GS(when is the new one coming out? this year or next year. the one that with some darth vader looking front grille)
Thank you!
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Probably doesnt meet reliability requirements, but the VW CC is a nice car. I know for VW's the suv's are pretty unreliable. I know the golf is a pretty stable platform, but who knows about the CC.
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CPO an option or just new? Cus I'd suggest a CPO Infiniti M35(x). It's the successor to my I30. And that car was just made to be a cushion, no sporting prowess there.
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genessis sedan is very nice car with its warranty should be really good car for long term driving, i belive its

100 k / 10years powertrain
60k k / 5years bumper to bumper

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/assurance/...-warranty.aspx
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Probably doesnt meet reliability requirements, but the VW CC is a nice car. I know for VW's the suv's are pretty unreliable. I know the golf is a pretty stable platform, but who knows about the CC.
She hates VW.. LOL Thanks for the suggestion though!

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Trust me. You don't want to see.

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CPO an option or just new? Cus I'd suggest a CPO Infiniti M35(x). It's the successor to my I30. And that car was just made to be a cushion, no sporting prowess there.
Only brand new cars.

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genessis sedan is very nice car with its warranty should be really good car for long term driving, i belive its

100 k / 10years powertrain
60k k / 5years bumper to bumper

http://www.hyundaiusa.com/assurance/...-warranty.aspx
Yeah... I seriously think Genesis Sedan is the best in the segment. I should just tell her that it's the only car that's worth test driving it. LOL
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Tell him/her to get 5.0R and let you drive sometimes
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Chrysler 300?
Lincoln MKS?
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Tell him/her to get 5.0R and let you drive sometimes
Maybe. lol but my car serves me plenty of fun factor already.

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Chrysler 300?
Lincoln MKS?
She prefers Asian brands.
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Maybe. lol but my car serves me plenty of fun factor already.



She prefers Asian brands.
An Infiniti M35/45 should have a soft ride as long as she doesn't go with a sport model. The acura RL has a nice soft ride as well! IMO the RL vs. Infiniti, I'd pick the RL hands down. It's a lot more ergonomic and as well simpler to use.

Also Lexus's ES is a good option, however if she can stretch a little bit she should looks into the GS350!

As far as German goes, she should look at a 528i and an E-Class and maybe the new Audi A6. With a bit of negotiation she'll have a nicely equipped car for a good price. However the A6 may be a tad to aggressive looking for her.
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