MT: Ford Mustang GT vs the BMW M3
08-25-2010, 04:30 PM
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08-25-2010, 04:46 PM
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08-25-2010, 05:25 PM
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And if they cost the same, believe me you'd have no argument here.
But they don't. And that extra $26k puts it completely out of the picture for a lot of people. Which makes the fact that the Mustang GT performs at 9.75/10s of what the M3 does a no-brainer if you're looking for a sports car.
But they don't. And that extra $26k puts it completely out of the picture for a lot of people. Which makes the fact that the Mustang GT performs at 9.75/10s of what the M3 does a no-brainer if you're looking for a sports car.
08-25-2010, 06:05 PM
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08-25-2010, 06:56 PM
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08-25-2010, 07:04 PM
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And if they cost the same, believe me you'd have no argument here.
But they don't. And that extra $26k puts it completely out of the picture for a lot of people. Which makes the fact that the Mustang GT performs at 9.75/10s of what the M3 does a no-brainer if you're looking for a sports car.
But they don't. And that extra $26k puts it completely out of the picture for a lot of people. Which makes the fact that the Mustang GT performs at 9.75/10s of what the M3 does a no-brainer if you're looking for a sports car.
08-25-2010, 07:22 PM
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Same argument can be hand with many other cars. If you shopping for a $100k car, then i doubt many would pick the M3 over an Audi R8. Performance isnt that far apart from each other but theres a huge price difference.
mmmmm R8.
mmmmm R8.
08-25-2010, 07:24 PM
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08-25-2010, 07:27 PM
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Truth. I cant deny that.
I actually went today to test drive the Stang and Camaro back to back. But the Chevy dealer wont have any till 2nd week of September. I put the battle on hold for now.
I actually went today to test drive the Stang and Camaro back to back. But the Chevy dealer wont have any till 2nd week of September. I put the battle on hold for now.
08-25-2010, 09:47 PM
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08-25-2010, 11:46 PM
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Nobody's arguing that. I could go out and buy a loaded Mustang GT tomorrow but I'd rather take the time to save that extra $27k and get an M3 in a few years. It may be no faster but it is just a more appealing car to me. Well worth the extra expense (though I'd love the E92 to be at old E46 prices)....
08-26-2010, 06:16 AM
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08-26-2010, 06:25 AM
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I was not that surprised on the difference between the M3 and Mustang on smooth track pavement but on any imperfect real world pavement I'd bet the M3 would prove much easier to handle.
08-26-2010, 08:10 AM
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Owning a BMW M3 has a ceretain cachet. I would imagine that is the real reson many people would buy the M3 over the equally performing GT.
Saving up an extra 27K, is years of saving for the average person. As it's been stated above..many consider the M3 out of reach price wise, so the average person (car enthusiast) will happily take the GT. The fact that the GT performs equal to the M3 is all the more reason the GT buyer can be proud of their purchase. It's a great value and the car is not a pretender...it's the real deal.
Saving up an extra 27K, is years of saving for the average person. As it's been stated above..many consider the M3 out of reach price wise, so the average person (car enthusiast) will happily take the GT. The fact that the GT performs equal to the M3 is all the more reason the GT buyer can be proud of their purchase. It's a great value and the car is not a pretender...it's the real deal.
08-26-2010, 10:22 AM
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08-26-2010, 10:23 AM
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I think you're right.
The Rouch Mustang in my picture I believe is a 2010 that was purchased in May of this year. The owner offered to that me for a drive but we were in Caton Baltimore and that's no place to have fun in car like that.
The Rouch Mustang in my picture I believe is a 2010 that was purchased in May of this year. The owner offered to that me for a drive but we were in Caton Baltimore and that's no place to have fun in car like that.
08-26-2010, 10:28 AM
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08-26-2010, 10:32 AM
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08-26-2010, 01:03 PM
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Aside from looks, we can't think of a single area where the similarly priced but slightly more expensive Chevy Camaro SS beats the Mustang. Speed, handling, soundtrack, brakes, interior (the GT is actually creeping into Audi levels of interior sophistication – look at those seats!), fit and finish – you name it, the Mustang's the superior sports car.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/29/2...t-first-drive/
08-26-2010, 01:03 PM
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I sat in these very same interiors in the mustang we rented in Vegas. As much as I wanted to love this car, I am pretty disappointed. They look good in pics but seeing that much plastic in person is disconcerting.
To me subjectively, the 27K premium presented by the M3 is really well justified. I will buy the M3 10 times over. But I drive a Lexus..lol.
To me subjectively, the 27K premium presented by the M3 is really well justified. I will buy the M3 10 times over. But I drive a Lexus..lol.
08-26-2010, 01:24 PM
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I sat in these very same interiors in the mustang we rented in Vegas. As much as I wanted to love this car, I am pretty disappointed. They look good in pics but seeing that much plastic in person is disconcerting.
To me subjectively, the 27K premium presented by the M3 is really well justified. I will buy the M3 10 times over. But I drive a Lexus..lol.
To me subjectively, the 27K premium presented by the M3 is really well justified. I will buy the M3 10 times over. But I drive a Lexus..lol.
08-26-2010, 01:39 PM
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But if you dont, would you not take the mustang? Especially given its 27k cheaper and does every thing the m3 does for that much less? Personally id take the mustang and laugh all teh way home at how much i saved.
08-26-2010, 01:41 PM
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Mainly because I'm not a huge fan of the modern stangs, though.
08-26-2010, 01:56 PM
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If I have $70k to spend on a car, then I'm spending $70k and it's not going to put me in a situation where I'm eating Ramen all the time. So getting a $40k car instead of a $70k one doesn't mean anything to me because I've easily got that $30k to spend.
If I don't (and this is what this whole argument has been about IMO) then I'm not going to over-extend myself when I can get a Mustang that does 90-95% of what the M3 is best at and not strap myself financially.
Which is what I think you're saying and what everyone that keeps saying "Dur, the M3" is missing.
Overall, the M3 is the better car. It should be. But the Mustang is a damn fine alternative for everyone that can't afford the BMW.
08-26-2010, 02:35 PM
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I have been accustomed to Lexus and Acura interiors, so, premium or not, they are still below par for me. We rented a a convertible FYI..
Maybe, its about the overall driving experience. I felt the live axle everytime I took a corner hard. I am not sure what they did to this GT to make it handle really well on race track but in real life on freeways and public roads, I never felt at ease which my wife can attest to. She felt the same way when she drove the car.
Maybe, its about the overall driving experience. I felt the live axle everytime I took a corner hard. I am not sure what they did to this GT to make it handle really well on race track but in real life on freeways and public roads, I never felt at ease which my wife can attest to. She felt the same way when she drove the car.
08-26-2010, 02:45 PM
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That was uncalled for...
I have been accustomed to Lexus and Acura interiors, so, premium or not, they are still below par for me. We rented a a convertible FYI..
Maybe, its about the overall driving experience. I felt the live axle everytime I took a corner hard. I am not sure what they did to this GT to make it handle really well on race track but in real life on freeways and public roads, I never felt at ease which my wife can attest to. She felt the same way when she drove the car.
Maybe, its about the overall driving experience. I felt the live axle everytime I took a corner hard. I am not sure what they did to this GT to make it handle really well on race track but in real life on freeways and public roads, I never felt at ease which my wife can attest to. She felt the same way when she drove the car.
I wouldn't be buying the car if I felt it didn't handle well, or if I felt the rear axle was holding the car back in any way.
I think people have it stuck into their brain that the solid rear axle is the end of the world, and it's only good for horse drawn buggies and transport trucks.
Autoblog even said when they reviewed the car, they'd rather have the soild rear axel in the Mustang than the independant rear suspension in the Camaro.
Also, I highly doubt the interior was the premium one. Do you remember if the spokes of the steering wheel were black plasic or real aluminum?
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I have been accustomed to Lexus and Acura interiors, so, premium or not, they are still below par for me. We rented a a convertible FYI..
Maybe, its about the overall driving experience. I felt the live axle everytime I took a corner hard. I am not sure what they did to this GT to make it handle really well on race track but in real life on freeways and public roads, I never felt at ease which my wife can attest to. She felt the same way when she drove the car.
Maybe, its about the overall driving experience. I felt the live axle everytime I took a corner hard. I am not sure what they did to this GT to make it handle really well on race track but in real life on freeways and public roads, I never felt at ease which my wife can attest to. She felt the same way when she drove the car.
Was your rental a GT?
08-26-2010, 02:52 PM
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Aside from looks, we can't think of a single area where the similarly priced but slightly more expensive Chevy Camaro SS beats the Mustang. Speed, handling, soundtrack, brakes, interior (the GT is actually creeping into Audi levels of interior sophistication – look at those seats!), fit and finish – you name it, the Mustang's the superior sports car.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/03/29/2...t-first-drive/
We just bought a beautiful arum beige AUDI A5 convertible and the interior is georgous. This was right after the Vegas trip so the mustang convertible experience was still fresh.
The interiors of the two cars are so far apart in fit, finish elegance, sophistication etc you name it..
So, the assertion of this writer is fucking hilarious!!!!
08-26-2010, 02:56 PM
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That was uncalled for...
And also, I would tell you this. This writer is either a fanboi or has been bribed ( LOL!) to say that "the GT is actually creeping into Audi levels of interior sophistication – look at those seats!"
We just bought a beautiful arum beige AUDI A5 convertible and the interior is georgous. This was right after the Vegas trip so the mustang convertible experience was still fresh.
The interiors of the two cars are so far apart in fit, finish elegance, sophistication etc you name it..
So, the assertion of this writer is fucking hilarious!!!!
We just bought a beautiful arum beige AUDI A5 convertible and the interior is georgous. This was right after the Vegas trip so the mustang convertible experience was still fresh.
The interiors of the two cars are so far apart in fit, finish elegance, sophistication etc you name it..
So, the assertion of this writer is fucking hilarious!!!!
So stubborn...
08-26-2010, 03:00 PM
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I must chime in here and disagree with you completely. Last night, before placing the order for my V6, I took one for a drive again and drove it as hard as I possibly could, over every kind of road surface I could find. Not once did I feel the rear suspension was hindering the control or experience of the car.
I wouldn't be buying the car if I felt it didn't handle well, or if I felt the rear axle was holding the car back in any way.
I think people have it stuck into their brain that the solid rear axle is the end of the world, and it's only good for horse drawn buggies and transport trucks.
Autoblog even said when they reviewed the car, they'd rather have the soild rear axel in the Mustang than the independant rear suspension in the Camaro.
Also, I highly doubt the interior was the premium one. Do you remember if the spokes of the steering wheel were black plasic or real aluminum?
I wouldn't be buying the car if I felt it didn't handle well, or if I felt the rear axle was holding the car back in any way.
I think people have it stuck into their brain that the solid rear axle is the end of the world, and it's only good for horse drawn buggies and transport trucks.
Autoblog even said when they reviewed the car, they'd rather have the soild rear axel in the Mustang than the independant rear suspension in the Camaro.
Also, I highly doubt the interior was the premium one. Do you remember if the spokes of the steering wheel were black plasic or real aluminum?
Yeah, maybe the live axle idea clouded my driving experience. And maybe because I drive an IS-F which made the mustang CONVERTIBLE feel like a boat. Maybe, I should test drive the GT to be fair to the car in question here.
08-26-2010, 03:02 PM
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I am not being stubborn. I was disputing what the writer said about approaching AUDI like interiors. I am NOT disputing the value of the car!!!
08-26-2010, 03:09 PM
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I am VERY accustomed to Honda/Acura interiors (having owned an 07 AV6 EX-L and now an 09 MDX). However, I can comfortably state that Ford executed well enough for me to strongly consider the Mustang should I find myself in the market for a RWD coupe costing south of $40k.