Motor Trend - Hyundai Genesis, Mustang, Challenger & Camaro

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Old 06-09-2010, 10:23 AM
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Motor Trend - Hyundai Genesis, Mustang, Challenger & Camaro

Guess who won?

Got this mag yesterday, had to share with AZ.

This was a test of all the V6 versions.

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/..._se/index.html
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I am so shocked with how fast the v6's are. They really make me question the need for the V8's.
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And they get good MPG!
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Too bad about the Camaro's weight.
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I'd still take a Challenger over any of those any day of the week.
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Hyundai FTW!
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Gen Coupe for me!

Go Hyundai!
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I'd still take a Challenger over any of those any day of the week.




The SE was the slowest, least agile, worst braking car in the test.

I'd go with the Mustang even if I did have to get a trucker hat and grow a moustache
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I'd still take a Challenger over any of those any day of the week.
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I was thinking this was a repost, but glad I was mistaken.

My dad likes the Challenger, but I'm trying to steer him toward the Camaro or Stang. The Stang seems to be winning in his book. Thankfully.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I'd still take a Challenger over any of those any day of the week.
I hope you are joking!
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Originally Posted by CocheseUGA
I was thinking this was a repost, but glad I was mistaken.

My dad likes the Challenger, but I'm trying to steer him toward the Camaro or Stang. The Stang seems to be winning in his book. Thankfully.
Get this magazine to your dad. He'll take the mustang for sure..

This new Mustang is a clear winner this year.
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I don't know, at $31K+ you are within striking distance of the 5.0.

http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...BP8CF3B5117108
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That's if you load it up. $25k is reasonable.
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whoa, lol, the "MT obs fuel econ" for each of those car is pretty low...haha.

Hmm.....14.2s@99mph for the Genesis eh...I'm surprised it's only as quick as the 3rd gen TL 6MT with like 50 less hp. I heard it has something to do with the ECU trying to protect the tranny or something.....
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The 2011 challenger will get the new pentastar v6.

But I would never buy it as a v6. Too heavy.

I believe that same issue has the srt8 coming in 2nd place.
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Out of that group with those engines, I'd take the Mustang. No brainer.
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No V8, no care.
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Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Out of that group with those engines, I'd take the Mustang. No brainer.
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id take the gen coupe. Mustang doesn't do it for me at all in V6 and those other cars are too huge for V6s so coupe wins
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Hmm.....14.2s@99mph for the Genesis eh...I'm surprised it's only as quick as the 3rd gen TL 6MT with like 50 less hp. I heard it has something to do with the ECU trying to protect the tranny or something.....
i think hyundai programmed the tranny more towards MPG not trying to protect it.
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Originally Posted by dom
Too bad about the Camaro's weight.
and outward visibility, and interior, and rear end
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If chevy were to knock 400 or so pounds off the camaro, and give it a better interior i would be interested in it. I love the exterior design.

For me of both comparos i would have to say i would pick the Mustang for both, though the Genesis is a great car.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
and outward visibility, and interior, and rear end
Yup, interior was a huge let down for me as well. Could have sworn I read something about the '12 getting a revised interior.
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Genesis Coupe was 2nd place when they included v8's. Mustang GT was 1st. beat camaro SRT8 and etc. very impressive.

and on autoblog, they think refreshed coupe might beat 370z.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/05/17/b...oupe-and-370z/
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Originally Posted by brizey
I don't know, at $31K+ you are within striking distance of the 5.0.

http://www.inventory.fordvehicles.co...BP8CF3B5117108

real OTD price on fully loaded gen coupe is 30k. that's OTD. loaded mustang goes over 40k.


anyway, i bet the refreshed gen coupe with DI will go over 350hp. that would be sweet. Genesis Coupe has a chance to be something very very special.
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Yup, interior was a huge let down for me as well. Could have sworn I read something about the '12 getting a revised interior.
I sure hope so!
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Originally Posted by Mourning Would
No V8, no care.
I used to think that at one time too. Until I bought this in 1986:




3.8 litre V6. 0-60 in 4.9 seconds out of the box. With puny 215 tires and a suspension at that time already twenty years old. It's been one of my favourite cars, recently turning over 10 000 miles.




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That.... is an exception to the rule I think I've seen that pic of yours before, but she still looks great.

F/I 6-cylinders are the exception, generally. The MKIV Supra Turbo, 335i, and the GN are a few of the cars with 6-cylinders that I wouldn't mind at all. Still, none of those cars are either available today or even start anywhere near $30k MSRP. The 5.0 also rips through the 1/4 at under 13 seconds, a good second faster than the GC and V6 versions of the pony cars.

I still wouldn't get any of the current 3 pony cars with a V6, but that's just me. The V6 versions are probably more than enough for 80% of the people looking at one. But unless Ford puts a built Ecoboost V6 in the Mustang, I'll stand by my statement.
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Originally Posted by Mourning Would
That.... is an exception to the rule I think I've seen that pic of yours before, but she still looks great.

F/I 6-cylinders are the exception, generally. The MKIV Supra Turbo, 335i, and the GN are a few of the cars with 6-cylinders that I wouldn't mind at all. Still, none of those cars are either available today or even start anywhere near $30k MSRP. The 5.0 also rips through the 1/4 at under 13 seconds, a good second faster than the GC and V6 versions of the pony cars.

I still wouldn't get any of the current 3 pony cars with a V6, but that's just me. The V6 versions are probably more than enough for 80% of the people looking at one. But unless Ford puts a built Ecoboost V6 in the Mustang, I'll stand by my statement.

I'm itching to see what the EcoBoost will be like in the upcoming 2011 F150. Apparently 400 hp. isn't out to the question.



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Your move....
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Originally Posted by PortlandRL


Your move....
You had to go there

I snapped these pictures at a Honda dealership in Oregon last year when I was traveling for work.

Just wanted to share them.



This is a 60's Honda S600, never sold in the US. Basically the first version of the S2K with a 600cc engine in it




Original keys



Few more:




I met with the owner of the dealership for a few hours and he was telling me about how he acquired all these old Hondas, very cool guy.
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^^^Any of those old Hondas are still far superior to that craptastic first gen Excel....
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Datsun founded in 1931

Honda founded in 1948

Hyundai founded in 1967

My point is that Hyundai deserves some major props.
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Well this thread sure got shat up.
Yep and now its going to be cleaned

Edit, beat by JB
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edit: Sorry fsttyms1... didn't see you were in here!!

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