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Bump! So I haven't been up to much since the last update! I saw my car's doppelganger recently on the freeway, which made me laugh!
I also noticed a minute amount of play in the tie rod end/ball joint, so I got to replacing the outer/inner tie rod and lower ball joint. Luckily Lexus had the right idea and sent the lower ball joint separate from the lower control arm, unlike the RL.... Funny story about that! I ordered OEM from a ClubLexus vendor (myLparts), and I received the correct driver side lower ball joint. However, the passenger side was incorrectly labeled, and I inevitably got two driver sides!! You could tell there was an old faded label on one of the packages and they had simply applied a new label on it. I didn't notice it until I installed the parts and the passenger wheel was solidly turned...
Luckily I shot an email explaining the situation to the guys at myLparts and he sent me the new parts right away. A+ vendor experience, I can tell you I'll keep using them in the future The picture below shows how far the passenger side wheel was turned with the incorrect part on there. Mind you, the steering wheel was perfectly centered for this picture...
After further inspection, I noticed that the markings didn't match at all and the angles didn't match AT ALL...
I also took the car in for a coating maintenance. Still looking good as always
On a related suspension note, I've made up my mind that I'll be going down the coilover route with this car, but keeping it at stock height. I'm merely going in this for ride comfort... I was hoping for some advise from some of the more experienced crew here. I've decided I'll replace the upper and lower control arms at the same time as well. Now, with that being said, I have a lot of decisions to make. With the lower control arm, I don't have much choice but OEM.
However, for the upper control arms, I can choose between OEM or I can go with FIGS track spec UCAs. Is it worth spending the extra ~200$ on these if all the car does is commute/weekend warrior and the occasional drag strip trip?
https://www.shopfigs.com/v3/ISF-FUCA-TRAC-V1
I've also come to a fork in the road with the coilovers. I've narrowed it down to two choices, CL has some really good advice but I'm hoping for a different perspective. I've narrowed it to either Penske or Ohlin coilvers... Any and all input is appreciated on this one guys! This one won't happen until later this year Link to both:
https://www.shopfigs.com/v3/CO_OHRT_LESMI00-ISF
https://www.rr-racing.com/Racing-Pen...isxfsu0002.htm
I also noticed a minute amount of play in the tie rod end/ball joint, so I got to replacing the outer/inner tie rod and lower ball joint. Luckily Lexus had the right idea and sent the lower ball joint separate from the lower control arm, unlike the RL.... Funny story about that! I ordered OEM from a ClubLexus vendor (myLparts), and I received the correct driver side lower ball joint. However, the passenger side was incorrectly labeled, and I inevitably got two driver sides!! You could tell there was an old faded label on one of the packages and they had simply applied a new label on it. I didn't notice it until I installed the parts and the passenger wheel was solidly turned...
Luckily I shot an email explaining the situation to the guys at myLparts and he sent me the new parts right away. A+ vendor experience, I can tell you I'll keep using them in the future The picture below shows how far the passenger side wheel was turned with the incorrect part on there. Mind you, the steering wheel was perfectly centered for this picture...
After further inspection, I noticed that the markings didn't match at all and the angles didn't match AT ALL...
I also took the car in for a coating maintenance. Still looking good as always
On a related suspension note, I've made up my mind that I'll be going down the coilover route with this car, but keeping it at stock height. I'm merely going in this for ride comfort... I was hoping for some advise from some of the more experienced crew here. I've decided I'll replace the upper and lower control arms at the same time as well. Now, with that being said, I have a lot of decisions to make. With the lower control arm, I don't have much choice but OEM.
However, for the upper control arms, I can choose between OEM or I can go with FIGS track spec UCAs. Is it worth spending the extra ~200$ on these if all the car does is commute/weekend warrior and the occasional drag strip trip?
https://www.shopfigs.com/v3/ISF-FUCA-TRAC-V1
I've also come to a fork in the road with the coilovers. I've narrowed it down to two choices, CL has some really good advice but I'm hoping for a different perspective. I've narrowed it to either Penske or Ohlin coilvers... Any and all input is appreciated on this one guys! This one won't happen until later this year Link to both:
https://www.shopfigs.com/v3/CO_OHRT_LESMI00-ISF
https://www.rr-racing.com/Racing-Pen...isxfsu0002.htm
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CL 2IS Subforum swears by FIGS stuff. I don't think you can go wrong if you go down that route.
Also Ohlins have also been very popular among that crowd.
Also Ohlins have also been very popular among that crowd.
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^Mike provides great customer service and a great product! I was really happy when I bought the LCA bushings, he went above and beyond the questions I asked him.
But noted, looks like it's Ohlins. I'm on the fence about upgrading the upper control arm though, I don't think I'd benefit from it at all, and it's not like it's cheaper than OEM...
But noted, looks like it's Ohlins. I'm on the fence about upgrading the upper control arm though, I don't think I'd benefit from it at all, and it's not like it's cheaper than OEM...
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Nice update, you complaint about the RL? wait until you deal with the LS460 where the lower ball joint attached with knuckle itself
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Looking good. Glad to see you are still enjoying the car.
I wish the Ohlins coilovers he finally completed had been around when I had mine. They look like an awesome setup.
I wish the Ohlins coilovers he finally completed had been around when I had mine. They look like an awesome setup.
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Thank you!! It’s been a great car and a very smooth experience so far!!
Seems like I’m hearing the same thing over and over: Ohlin Mike over at FIGS also have me some great input as well!
Anyone have any thoughts on upgrading the upper control arm? Worth spending on a street car?
Seems like I’m hearing the same thing over and over: Ohlin Mike over at FIGS also have me some great input as well!
Anyone have any thoughts on upgrading the upper control arm? Worth spending on a street car?
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I did upgraded bushings to poly on my V both upper and lower and it made a good bit of difference in steering feel over the factory rubber ones. I assume that is what you are referring to. With the fact lots of people do the lower ones I feel like it would be better to have both the upper and lower be the same material.
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I did upgraded bushings to poly on my V both upper and lower and it made a good bit of difference in steering feel over the factory rubber ones. I assume that is what you are referring to. With the fact lots of people do the lower ones I feel like it would be better to have both the upper and lower be the same material.
https://www.shopfigs.com/v3/ISF-FUCA-TRAC-V1
So essentially best practice would be to do the lowers too, which seems like more of a pain than it’s worth with a car that I’m already happy with steering response.
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When I did it on the Camry, steering response was sharper but ride quality suffered.... That’s why I’m on the fence about this arm:
https://www.shopfigs.com/v3/ISF-FUCA-TRAC-V1
So essentially best practice would be to do the lowers too, which seems like more of a pain than it’s worth with a car that I’m already happy with steering response.
https://www.shopfigs.com/v3/ISF-FUCA-TRAC-V1
So essentially best practice would be to do the lowers too, which seems like more of a pain than it’s worth with a car that I’m already happy with steering response.
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Those upper control arms were not even a thing while I had mine. The lower bushings are the ones you definitely want to do. They use the same rubber bushings on the lowers as the IS250/350 use with the heavier V8 motor. Figs has the video documenting the issues with this. Also to me the ISF is a performance sedan so I wanted handling over ride but I know that isn't the same with everyone. I would understand being disappointed by loss of ride quality in a Camry though.
Looking back at the setup I had on my Camry, it was totally a budget build for a college kid. I had TRD lowering springs installed on factory valved struts, along with poly bushings that were 90 durometer (overkill on a car like that). I think a combination of improperly valved struts and harder than necessary poly bushings is what contributed to the poor ride quality.
After exchanging some emails with Mike at FIGS expressing my concerns over ride quality with these poly bushings combined Ohlin coilovers, he helped put my mind at ease.
At this point I can't argue with your recommendation and Mike's I decided to have the new control arms shipped straight to the FIGS shop in Colorado for them to install the bushings. Looking forward to some new arms with poly bushings to come in by the end of this month or the beginning of the next
I also found some clear door puddle light lenses that were LED equipped and sprung for those. So far I'm pretty happy with them. The light output is still bright but more even than straight LED bulbs in there.
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Glad to hear you chose to do them. Don't think you will be disappointed. Mike is definitely the man.
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The "I'm still alive, I swear! I'm just lurking and I've been adjusting to a new job I swear!" bump! So now that I've adjusted to the new job, I have the time to give you guys an update. It also gives me the time to install all of the suspension bits I've accumulated over the summer! I've since installed a Viper SmartStart on the car, which has been great!! I finally switched everything over to Illinois and settled on a vanity plate for this vehicle(pictures all the way at the end ).I also opted to install the motorized hide a plate system!
I also had to change out the infamous pressure relief vents that hide behind the bumper. 90$ and 20 minutes later, no more exhaust smell in the cabin during spirited driving. Pictured is new on the top, old on the bottom. As you can see that flap wasn't closing the way it was supposed to!
I also upgraded my summer tire set to Michelin Pilot 4S after hitting 5/32nds, after getting pissed off with the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires. I managed to swing a good deal from Discount Tire
Summer proved to be very eventful. Our local F group leader did a great job in bringing us all together many times this summer for events, and even organized some fun cruises for us. He capped it off really well with a meet at McGrath Lexus where the GM agreed to bring out the LFA Nurburgring Edition for us!! He arranged a long distance cruise to Galena, IL which was awesome! There was also a meet that was open to the public in NW Indiana at Merrilville Lexus where we got priority parking
Pictured below is the car at Iron Gate, some private condos for automotive enthusiasts.
This was during one of our events as well.
And the LFA
I was also fortunate enough to have the winter wheels refinished before I installed them. I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE how well Crown Customs in Elk Grove Village, IL redid them. I can see why they came in so highly recommended. They refinished it in the same color as OEM but somehow managed to make the color pop way more. The color was very brilliant, but didn't photograph well.
As you may have also guessed, I opted to go with a vanity plate for both of the cars "RTD F" was the choice for the Lexus and "Plate" was the choice for the RL. Both on the Route 66 Illinois special plate
For being a sports sedan, it's honestly been a smooth ownership experience! Nothing but good things to say 21K miles later! I'm very impressed with how reliable the car has been and how good to me it's been! I also have a small surprise for you guys. Since I haven't run the RL in the snow and salt since I've owned it, and driving the IS-F in the snow wasn't as fun as one would think (considering I had to be at work LOL), I decided to take up a good deal when I saw it on a third vehicle that will be my new beater car. I'll be picking it up from Pauly Honda tomorrow morning! 2012 Honda Accord EX-L, with Navigation.
Now that you guys know I'm not dead, I'll be providing more regular updates
I also had to change out the infamous pressure relief vents that hide behind the bumper. 90$ and 20 minutes later, no more exhaust smell in the cabin during spirited driving. Pictured is new on the top, old on the bottom. As you can see that flap wasn't closing the way it was supposed to!
I also upgraded my summer tire set to Michelin Pilot 4S after hitting 5/32nds, after getting pissed off with the Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires. I managed to swing a good deal from Discount Tire
Summer proved to be very eventful. Our local F group leader did a great job in bringing us all together many times this summer for events, and even organized some fun cruises for us. He capped it off really well with a meet at McGrath Lexus where the GM agreed to bring out the LFA Nurburgring Edition for us!! He arranged a long distance cruise to Galena, IL which was awesome! There was also a meet that was open to the public in NW Indiana at Merrilville Lexus where we got priority parking
Pictured below is the car at Iron Gate, some private condos for automotive enthusiasts.
This was during one of our events as well.
And the LFA
I was also fortunate enough to have the winter wheels refinished before I installed them. I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE how well Crown Customs in Elk Grove Village, IL redid them. I can see why they came in so highly recommended. They refinished it in the same color as OEM but somehow managed to make the color pop way more. The color was very brilliant, but didn't photograph well.
As you may have also guessed, I opted to go with a vanity plate for both of the cars "RTD F" was the choice for the Lexus and "Plate" was the choice for the RL. Both on the Route 66 Illinois special plate
For being a sports sedan, it's honestly been a smooth ownership experience! Nothing but good things to say 21K miles later! I'm very impressed with how reliable the car has been and how good to me it's been! I also have a small surprise for you guys. Since I haven't run the RL in the snow and salt since I've owned it, and driving the IS-F in the snow wasn't as fun as one would think (considering I had to be at work LOL), I decided to take up a good deal when I saw it on a third vehicle that will be my new beater car. I'll be picking it up from Pauly Honda tomorrow morning! 2012 Honda Accord EX-L, with Navigation.
Now that you guys know I'm not dead, I'll be providing more regular updates
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What was your issue with the PS AS3+? Ours have been fantastic, though they're on a FWD Flex.
What was your issue with the PS AS3+? Ours have been fantastic, though they're on a FWD Flex.
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Great update and nice daily! Love the 8th gen Accords.
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My same-gen IS350 runs A/S 3+ and they're great
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i could have sworn you inherited an IS250 @thoiboi
shit...that 350 is fuckin quick!
shit...that 350 is fuckin quick!
I wouldn't be caught with an IS250.. slow as mole asses
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IS350? Is this some sort of peasant word? JK JK haha
Thanks! It feels weird and nice to pump regular in a car again My wallet likes it for sure!
Honestly, I despised those tires so much!! They are marketed as performance tires, but quite frankly they should be sold as Grand Touring tires. ANYTHING, and I mean ANYTHING would make them loose traction. It was absolutely terrible.
I also forgot to mention, I finally installed my Kicker Hideaway in the truck. It’s nice to have bass, since the stock ML system is not calibrated you have much of it to begin with! I have the bass adjustment knob right by me. Pics to come!
Finally picked her up, almost ready for winter! The dealer was nice enough to throw in a set of all weather mats and a trunk all weather mat for me
Thanks! It feels weird and nice to pump regular in a car again My wallet likes it for sure!
I also forgot to mention, I finally installed my Kicker Hideaway in the truck. It’s nice to have bass, since the stock ML system is not calibrated you have much of it to begin with! I have the bass adjustment knob right by me. Pics to come!
Finally picked her up, almost ready for winter! The dealer was nice enough to throw in a set of all weather mats and a trunk all weather mat for me
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Guess that's the difference in a 262/248 FWD SUV & a 416/371 RWD Sport Sedan.
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great looking car. Just recently purchased RC-F so i’m Now part of ‘F’ club. Would be awesome to have IS-F as a daily driver so i can take my two little kids.
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So about 3 years later you are now listen to me about driving that ISF in snow lol.
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Very nice.
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Finally decided to get unlazy and got all my new part in. Tearing the car down this week, also slated are new upper and lower control arms with poly bushings. I’m hoping I don’t find too many surprises on tear down. Thanks for FIGS for supplying all quality parts! Let me say this, this is my first set of coilovers I’ve ever ordered for any vehicle I’ve owner but man do these coils look and feel like quality...
I’m a little excited as this should solve my biggest complaint with this car. I’m hoping someone has some good advice on setting these up? I’m sticking with the highest ride height for now which lowers the car by 0.1 inches.
I’m a little excited as this should solve my biggest complaint with this car. I’m hoping someone has some good advice on setting these up? I’m sticking with the highest ride height for now which lowers the car by 0.1 inches.
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stickers are the friggin best!
oh man this is gonna be good.
oh man this is gonna be good.
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I picked the car up from the shop after the alignment, sadly I haven't gotten in as much driving as I would have wanted on day 1 with these given we're pretty busy at work. Thanks Corona! With that being said, here are my initial impressions:
I have it set right down to the middle click as of now, I want to spend some time this weekend tinkering and driving to perfect the settings to my liking. Massive improvement in pitch and body roll around corners/turns, notably at highway speeds. Cars holds level much better on turns. Very well dampened while also being aggressive able to hold the rear end down. The car is able to put the it's power down MUCH better now. It's a very well balanced setup! Quite frankly, I'm mad at myself for not doing this sooner!!
I'm really excited to get more seat time this weekend
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Ballin right there for sure. I bet that thing drives like a dream. I loved mine on my BCRacing coils over the stock. I can't imagine it on really good coils like those along with the new poly control arm bushing. Love fallowing you build on this. Keep it up
Ballin right there for sure. I bet that thing drives like a dream. I loved mine on my BCRacing coils over the stock. I can't imagine it on really good coils like those along with the new poly control arm bushing. Love fallowing you build on this. Keep it up
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Ballin right there for sure. I bet that thing drives like a dream. I loved mine on my BCRacing coils over the stock. I can't imagine it on really good coils like those along with the new poly control arm bushing. Love fallowing you build on this. Keep it up
Ballin right there for sure. I bet that thing drives like a dream. I loved mine on my BCRacing coils over the stock. I can't imagine it on really good coils like those along with the new poly control arm bushing. Love fallowing you build on this. Keep it up
Right now I'm at 20 clicks front/25 back away from stiffest. Mike from FIGS recommended I keep the the rear 5 clicks softer than the front. I'm still trying to figure out the optimal balance, and it's mostly been butt dyno so far! I'll be driving the car all weekend so I'll be able to iron everything out! More to come!
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