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09-16-2004, 10:26 PM
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Is this legit?
I emailed this guy about his car and got this reply. Think it's legit? Price seems low despite his explanation:
Hello,
I am very glad that you are interested in purchasing my car. First of all I must
inform you that I've moved form US and now I'm in London, England and I have to let you know that the 2003 Nissan 350Z is here with me and it is in a perfect condition. If you are really interested we can work out something... I can ship out the car to you or something like that. What do you say?
Now, to tell you something about the car. The car is still for sale and the price
is $22,800. It's condition is outstanding and most important I have a clear title
which you will receive it with the car. It can be registered into your name, so
stay cool about this. The odometer shows 11,500 miles. Here are the car full specs:
2003 Nissan 350Z
Year: 2003
Miles: 11500
Doors: 3 doors
Transmission: Manual
Interior: Other
Exterior: Silver
Engine: 6 - Cyl.
Options
Navigation
Leather Seats
CD Player
Anti-Lock Brakes
Driver Airbag
Passenger Airbag
Air Conditioning
Cruise Control
Power Locks
Power Windows
Power Seats
Here is a list of the parts that have been installed:
Roja Formula 7 Wheels in Gunmetal Finish (19x10 rear, 19x8 front)
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 Tires (275/35ZR19, 245/35ZR19)
Full Injen SES Catback Stainless Steel Exhaust (complete stock exhaust also included) Injen Cold Air Intake
XM Satlellite Radio
Clear front reflector lenses
Hawk HPS Brake Pads
3 antennas included (Stock, S2000, Shorty)
Also, for my security, I will not send through e-mail or fax any kind of copy of the
title or other paper from the car. You will receive all papers once with the car.
The car is a state of the art Nissan and works and looks perfectly I think it would
get to this.
The car is US street legal, does not need any conversion and it meets all DOT and EPA
regulations.
It has a miles odometer, etc. The car is as new, with no scratches and it was never
involved in an accident. You can check the VIN (JN1AZ34D63T107150) on http://www.carfax.com/. The paint looks just as new, the car was always garaged.
When I brought the car here, I tried to register it, but when I found that the import
and register taxes are very high. I was very disappointed, because I love this car
and now I am forced to sell it. I can't sell it here in England or in Europe,
because it is US street legal. You can see this, if you will check the VIN.
The car was registered in US before. This is the reason that I want to sell
the car in USA because European people do not like it prepared this way.
The other offers that I have are also from the US.
Waiting for your reply!
Cheers and god bless you
Hello,
I am very glad that you are interested in purchasing my car. First of all I must
inform you that I've moved form US and now I'm in London, England and I have to let you know that the 2003 Nissan 350Z is here with me and it is in a perfect condition. If you are really interested we can work out something... I can ship out the car to you or something like that. What do you say?
Now, to tell you something about the car. The car is still for sale and the price
is $22,800. It's condition is outstanding and most important I have a clear title
which you will receive it with the car. It can be registered into your name, so
stay cool about this. The odometer shows 11,500 miles. Here are the car full specs:
2003 Nissan 350Z
Year: 2003
Miles: 11500
Doors: 3 doors
Transmission: Manual
Interior: Other
Exterior: Silver
Engine: 6 - Cyl.
Options
Navigation
Leather Seats
CD Player
Anti-Lock Brakes
Driver Airbag
Passenger Airbag
Air Conditioning
Cruise Control
Power Locks
Power Windows
Power Seats
Here is a list of the parts that have been installed:
Roja Formula 7 Wheels in Gunmetal Finish (19x10 rear, 19x8 front)
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 Tires (275/35ZR19, 245/35ZR19)
Full Injen SES Catback Stainless Steel Exhaust (complete stock exhaust also included) Injen Cold Air Intake
XM Satlellite Radio
Clear front reflector lenses
Hawk HPS Brake Pads
3 antennas included (Stock, S2000, Shorty)
Also, for my security, I will not send through e-mail or fax any kind of copy of the
title or other paper from the car. You will receive all papers once with the car.
The car is a state of the art Nissan and works and looks perfectly I think it would
get to this.
The car is US street legal, does not need any conversion and it meets all DOT and EPA
regulations.
It has a miles odometer, etc. The car is as new, with no scratches and it was never
involved in an accident. You can check the VIN (JN1AZ34D63T107150) on http://www.carfax.com/. The paint looks just as new, the car was always garaged.
When I brought the car here, I tried to register it, but when I found that the import
and register taxes are very high. I was very disappointed, because I love this car
and now I am forced to sell it. I can't sell it here in England or in Europe,
because it is US street legal. You can see this, if you will check the VIN.
The car was registered in US before. This is the reason that I want to sell
the car in USA because European people do not like it prepared this way.
The other offers that I have are also from the US.
Waiting for your reply!
Cheers and god bless you
09-16-2004, 10:34 PM
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btw, in order to register a car in Europe, it has to be modified to fit their regulations. Their regulations would make it not legal for US use. So either he has a never registered US-spec Z over there, or he went from US spec to Europe Spec back to US spec. I smell 
09-16-2004, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by loki
When I brought the car here, I tried to register it, but when I found that the import
and register taxes are very high. I was very disappointed, because I love this car
and now I am forced to sell it. I can't sell it here in England or in Europe,
because it is US street legal. You can see this, if you will check the VIN.
The car was registered in US before. This is the reason that I want to sell
the car in USA because European people do not like it prepared this way.
The other offers that I have are also from the US.
Waiting for your reply!
Cheers and god bless you
whoops, i missed that
So, he has enough $$ that he can afford a Z, afford to ship it overseas, but cant afford registration taxes? get the fuck outta here!
09-17-2004, 10:56 AM
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Holy crap. I told this guy I was interested and check out what e sends me. Really elaborate scam he's got set up here:
Hello again,
I have to tell you that I have other serious offers that I have to consider and I will
make a decision regarding this sale function or time of payment and price. The price
I hope to obtain is $22,800 (this price includes the shipping and insurance because
I am willing to cover the air freight to the USA) and if you agree with this price we
can start to complete the transaction.
The payment must be done using a money order service. I prefer money order because in
this way I will ship the car in the same day you make the payment. During the time
I learned that the best deals are closed when the risk involved is minimum.
You will arrange payment through Western Union (www.WesternUnion.com). In case you
want to ship you the car right now you have to make me a confirmation deposit for 20% of the amount of money ($4560) and after you receive and inspect the car you have to send
me the rest of the money.
The inspection period for it is 10 days. In this time, you can check the car and
register it under your name.
Look what I can do for you:
- You will make the transfer to my location but not to my name (you will use your best
friends name for example, as receiver's name) so you can be sure that I will not pick
up the money until you get the car. So you make a deposit at Western Union and you will
give me the transfer's details (MTCN, SENDER'S NAME, RECEIVER'S NAME) so I can check that the deposit was made. After I verify I will send you the car immediately.
- Only after you will receive the car and check it if it OK you will have to change
the receiver's name of the transfer to my name so I can collect my money. So until
you will have the car in your hands the money will be deposited on your best friend's
name at Western Union agent.
I think it is better to not inform Western Union that you will change the receiver's
name in a few days because it is possible they ask you to pay the fees twice (fees that are quite big for such an amount). When you will go to the Western Union office to wire
the money sometimes they ask you why are you doing that. If you will tell them that
the money are for something you have bought, when I pick up the money I will be forced to pay a very expensive tax for making commerce. They will charge me 35% of the amount received,
and I can't afford to loose all that money especially that the car price is very low.
Please say you send the money to your friends or to your partner.
Also, I can accept $2000 through from the amount prior and in this case I will take
you as a serious and possible buyer and arrange a further deal but in this case you have to
come in person to the car's location to see the car and take it back with you or you
can send a friend or agent that lives near by to inspect the car and pay the rest of
the money.
If you are agree with this method you can transfer the $2000 from your home using
your credit card via phone calling 1-800 CALL CASH service of Western Union that is a
free of charge phone number and is available 24 H a day.
After you've completed the transfer you will receive a confirmation that will allow
me to track the transfer. Here are the details that I need:
- Sender's Name and address
- Receiver's name
- Exact amount wired
- MTCN # (10 digits)
- If it is possible a scanned copy of the receipt format. JPEG for me to add to the
files
As soon as the payment will be confirmed and the money properly sent, I will
IMMEDIATELY proceed with shipping if you sent me the 20% of the amount or I will hold
the car for you if you've deposited only $2000.
In case you've paid the 20% of money I will ship the car via Lufthansa Airplane Cargo
insured and it will take 72 hours until you will have it at your door. The shipping is
free. The shipping taxes will cost around USD 2600, but of course that I'll pay
them.
The 20% of payment are fully refundable if for any reason you do not accept the car
or if the car has scratches, hidden defects, or it is not as advertised. I will even pay
for the shipping back to my location if you reject the car but since it is a state of
art from Nissan, and works and looks perfectly, I think we won't get to this. Also
you won't be forced to pay any other import tax because the car is US street legal.
Here is my name and address you need for the Western Union transfer:
First Name : Roger
Last Name : Gangi
Address : 45 Tavistock Place,
London
ZIP : WC1 H9SE
County : England
If you agree with these terms, let me know and I will be more than glad to start to
complete the transaction with you.
Thank you and I hope that you will have the pleasure to drive this car.
Hello again,
I have to tell you that I have other serious offers that I have to consider and I will
make a decision regarding this sale function or time of payment and price. The price
I hope to obtain is $22,800 (this price includes the shipping and insurance because
I am willing to cover the air freight to the USA) and if you agree with this price we
can start to complete the transaction.
The payment must be done using a money order service. I prefer money order because in
this way I will ship the car in the same day you make the payment. During the time
I learned that the best deals are closed when the risk involved is minimum.
You will arrange payment through Western Union (www.WesternUnion.com). In case you
want to ship you the car right now you have to make me a confirmation deposit for 20% of the amount of money ($4560) and after you receive and inspect the car you have to send
me the rest of the money.
The inspection period for it is 10 days. In this time, you can check the car and
register it under your name.
Look what I can do for you:
- You will make the transfer to my location but not to my name (you will use your best
friends name for example, as receiver's name) so you can be sure that I will not pick
up the money until you get the car. So you make a deposit at Western Union and you will
give me the transfer's details (MTCN, SENDER'S NAME, RECEIVER'S NAME) so I can check that the deposit was made. After I verify I will send you the car immediately.
- Only after you will receive the car and check it if it OK you will have to change
the receiver's name of the transfer to my name so I can collect my money. So until
you will have the car in your hands the money will be deposited on your best friend's
name at Western Union agent.
I think it is better to not inform Western Union that you will change the receiver's
name in a few days because it is possible they ask you to pay the fees twice (fees that are quite big for such an amount). When you will go to the Western Union office to wire
the money sometimes they ask you why are you doing that. If you will tell them that
the money are for something you have bought, when I pick up the money I will be forced to pay a very expensive tax for making commerce. They will charge me 35% of the amount received,
and I can't afford to loose all that money especially that the car price is very low.
Please say you send the money to your friends or to your partner.
Also, I can accept $2000 through from the amount prior and in this case I will take
you as a serious and possible buyer and arrange a further deal but in this case you have to
come in person to the car's location to see the car and take it back with you or you
can send a friend or agent that lives near by to inspect the car and pay the rest of
the money.
If you are agree with this method you can transfer the $2000 from your home using
your credit card via phone calling 1-800 CALL CASH service of Western Union that is a
free of charge phone number and is available 24 H a day.
After you've completed the transfer you will receive a confirmation that will allow
me to track the transfer. Here are the details that I need:
- Sender's Name and address
- Receiver's name
- Exact amount wired
- MTCN # (10 digits)
- If it is possible a scanned copy of the receipt format. JPEG for me to add to the
files
As soon as the payment will be confirmed and the money properly sent, I will
IMMEDIATELY proceed with shipping if you sent me the 20% of the amount or I will hold
the car for you if you've deposited only $2000.
In case you've paid the 20% of money I will ship the car via Lufthansa Airplane Cargo
insured and it will take 72 hours until you will have it at your door. The shipping is
free. The shipping taxes will cost around USD 2600, but of course that I'll pay
them.
The 20% of payment are fully refundable if for any reason you do not accept the car
or if the car has scratches, hidden defects, or it is not as advertised. I will even pay
for the shipping back to my location if you reject the car but since it is a state of
art from Nissan, and works and looks perfectly, I think we won't get to this. Also
you won't be forced to pay any other import tax because the car is US street legal.
Here is my name and address you need for the Western Union transfer:
First Name : Roger
Last Name : Gangi
Address : 45 Tavistock Place,
London
ZIP : WC1 H9SE
County : England
If you agree with these terms, let me know and I will be more than glad to start to
complete the transaction with you.
Thank you and I hope that you will have the pleasure to drive this car.
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Hahaha. i just stopped reading that 2nd email somewhere in the middle. That's some of the shadiest stuff i've ever read in my life.
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damn thats funny.
Same template letter thats been posted time and time again.
best part is when he says he'll pay for the air frieght on the car......since cars are shipped on boats
Same template letter thats been posted time and time again.
best part is when he says he'll pay for the air frieght on the car......since cars are shipped on boats
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