calgary2800

I am interested in picking up a 08 Kia Rondo because of the 4 grand rebate. With the rebate you can get an LX auto for 15,500 with AC, power everything, cruise and seating for 7. Thats an excellent deal.

I read a comment that the 2.4 motor in the Rondo is the same engine as in the Dodge Avenger. Is that true, I want nothing to do with any Chrysler motor.

invisiblewar

doesnt mitsubishi share an engine with them also?

Sarlacc

the 5.7 Hemi was rated as one of the 10 best of the year.

Gfaze

The chrysler V8s are ok. Their 4 & 6 cylinders are junk.

BigLizard

Really?

I own a Caliber R/T (2.4) and Sebring Limited (3.5). From my experience, these engines haven't had any faults yet.

With over 10,000 miles on the clock on the Caliber and over 26,000 miles on the Sebring, both engines run pretty strong considering the fact that I drive hard on both cars sometimes.

Sarlacc

I wouldnt want the 4 cyl either. I was just correcting a blanket statement.

And the new V6 is supposed to be pretty good

Gfaze

Give them some more time, usually when you've gone beyond 50,000 miles.

Yeah I'm curious about the new V6 engines too. Maybe they picked up some pointers when they were working with Daimler.

BigLizard

That's a bogus quote . As long as I take care of the cars, they will take care of me and my wife.

If you are so curious about the 3.5 V6's, go test out an Avenger or Sebring. I don't think you'll be disappointed.

v6cord2k5

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You're talking out of your ass, what about the Tritec 1.6 w/ the Eaton M45 blower in the MINI? That thing is bullet proof.

Costco

I'm still waiting on a technical explanation of why the Chrysler 2.4 is junk. So far, nothing. Waste of a thread.

Gfaze

I've known a few people that have had problems with chrysler 4 cylinders. All of them were between 50-75K miles, one needed an engine replacement. You have your opinions, I have mine. Life goes on.

v6cord2k5

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^ you made a generalization, there's a difference.

dallison

i would figure that the kia and hyundai would share some motors, but not positive. Mitsubishi and chrysler most def shared motors

Pure Adrenaline

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Chrysler, Mitsubishi and Hyundai share the 2.4L I-4 engines.

It's designed and engineered by Hyundai and manufactured by Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA) which is a joint venture of the 3 companies.

Gfaze - care to back up that statement with some hard facts and data? It might not pull like a train, but it is a good reliable engine. You also said give it until 50k miles+. Well, Hyundai covers the powertrain for 100k miles, so you shouldn't have to worry. Not that I hear or see a high level of failures in the Theta engine, anyway.

I do have to note one thing. GEMA manufactures the I-4 engines, but for the Sonata we produce in Alabama, we build our own engines (I-4 and V6) right on site, so if there are any quality defects that plague the Mitsubishi and Chrysler's engines... well, that doesn't affect our quality.

Gfaze

http://www.dontbuydodgechryslervehicles.com/

Be-in my TL

Clearly that's a biased website. Just look at the time, man.

phee

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cant believe you want anything to do with a kia..

stright-(paint)balling

Dodge's 2.7 v-6 were garbage motors.
probably as bad as GM's quad 4 motor.
quad 4 that was turd motor.

mrmako

I guess some posters here don't understand there are some on here that work in the industry, and quoting a website and talking to a friend of a friend is not really fact.

PureAD: I'm sure you are more than aware than the rest of us the quality of the engines in Kia/Hyundai/Chrysler. I just find it funny for someone to call a product junk when they have never owned one, or had a lot of direct experience with it.

Pure Adrenaline

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1. I read through the web site. Not a single issue was related to the GEMA-produced engine. There is no indication or even fact for that matter that hints at a design problem with the 2.4L I4 engine.

2. Hyundai has absolutely nothing to do with their 2.7L V6, which seems to be the most prevalent issue noted on that site.

3. I had a 1996 Dodge Intrepid V6 for a brief while back in college. That thing was a tank. I actually didn't mind driving it. Of course, there is no comparison to my TL.

4. By no means, am I defending Chrysler. They have their share of problems, as do every single auto manufacturer. That's just the nature of mass producing millions of vehicles every year. There is bound to be a percentage of problems. Nobody is perfect. Some are less perfect than others. It is up to us to become well-educated consumers based on research and facts (not opinions or biased web pages, though they do serve their purpose to an extent) and make the best decision. Even then, things are bound to go wrong. C'est la vie.

YeuEmMaiMai

lol ignorance is bliss isn't it

Nothing wrong with Chrysler power plants........

YeuEmMaiMai

sometimes you just need to keep your opinion to your self...........this is one of those times.......

chrysler slant 6 freaking awesome in terms of longevity 500K easy on those. the one in my grandfather's car went 600K miles without a hiccup

Moog-Type-S

First gen MINI Coopers were Chrysler engines.

Pretty much trouble free....and the Cooper S got rave reviews.

v6cord2k5

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See post #9.

GreenMonster

Thanks... I was hoping that someone would answer the OP's question

People don't realize it, but having an engine shared by more than one automaker is becoming more and more common nowadays.

It's truly becoming a global economy....

Gfaze

[quote=YeuEmMaiMai;10441394]sometimes you just need to keep your opinion to your self...........this is one of those times.......[quote]

I can and will voice my opinion if I choose to do so. You don't have to like it and frankly, I don't really care if you like it. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, you have yours, I have mine. I may not agree with others and apparently, nobody agrees with me. Nothing wrong with that, it's a free country.

BigLizard

^That picture always cracks me up!

EDIT: GFaze, at least you're cool with people not agreeing with you.

Teh internetz can be a crazy place y0!

Pure Adrenaline

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[QUOTE=Gfaze;10443190][quote=YeuEmMaiMai;10441394]sometimes you just need to keep your opinion to your self...........this is one of those times.......Stating your opinion is fine. It's also another person's right to state his/her opinion. When the opinions do not agree, we have a debate.

I simply asked you to back up your opinion/claim with facts and data. You could not provide any, except for that biased web site that had nothing to do with the GEMA engine.

Therefore, you may be entitled to an opinion, but your opinion is worthless and contributes nothing to answering the OP's question.

Yes, you may state your opinion that I'm an ass. I agree with it, therefore no debate there, no need to support it with any data.