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#41
it's a car-drive it
I hate it when attendants try to 'top it off' after your tank is full, too. The few times I've gone to full-serve stations, they've always done it. When the tank is full, pull out the hose, let me pay, and go. I don't care if I pay $23.36 or $25.00. In fact, I'd rather pay $23.86 than get an extra few drops of gas.
#42
Old fart
Wow...I didn't realize there are states which require full service!
The last full service station I went to, I was 17 and it was just across the border in WI. The guy washed my windows and cleaned my head/tail lights too. I tipped the guy a few bucks.
The last full service station I went to, I was 17 and it was just across the border in WI. The guy washed my windows and cleaned my head/tail lights too. I tipped the guy a few bucks.
#43
Whats up with RDX owners?
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(a) Discriminates against customers with lower incomes, who are under greater economic pressure to subject themselves to the inconvenience and hazards of self-service; - Wow...just wow.
(b) Discriminates against customers who are elderly or have disabilities who are unable to serve themselves and so must pay the significantly higher prices; and
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(b) Discriminates against customers who are elderly or have disabilities who are unable to serve themselves and so must pay the significantly higher prices; and
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Whats next? Pumping your own gas is racist? Or an act of terrorism? Lets get the fire department to pump our gas, because as we all know, they should be the ones who are most experienced with flammable substances.
Such bullshit.
#44
Evil Mazda Driver
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Wow. They just had to throw the word discriminate in there to get it to pass.
Whats next? Pumping your own gas is racist? Or an act of terrorism? Lets get the fire department to pump our gas, because as we all know, they should be the ones who are most experienced with flammable substances.
Such bullshit.
Whats next? Pumping your own gas is racist? Or an act of terrorism? Lets get the fire department to pump our gas, because as we all know, they should be the ones who are most experienced with flammable substances.
Such bullshit.
#45
I also lived in WA until I was 18...a state where you pump your own gas, and never once saw anyone do it.
#47
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#49
Safety Car
I was visiting OR a few years ago when I found out about this asinine law.
I had my G35, and the moron put the cheap stuff in, despite the fact that I told him twice to put premium. I noticed when I saw the receipt about 50 miles later when we got to our destination. That was the first and only time that I have ever used octane booster.
I filled up in another state on the way home. By myself.
I had my G35, and the moron put the cheap stuff in, despite the fact that I told him twice to put premium. I noticed when I saw the receipt about 50 miles later when we got to our destination. That was the first and only time that I have ever used octane booster.
I filled up in another state on the way home. By myself.
#50
One on the right for me
I've been to Oregon, I spent a summer working for a firm up there. I wouldn't want them pumping their own gas either.
#52
it's a car-drive it
I was visiting OR a few years ago when I found out about this asinine law.
I had my G35, and the moron put the cheap stuff in, despite the fact that I told him twice to put premium. I noticed when I saw the receipt about 50 miles later when we got to our destination. That was the first and only time that I have ever used octane booster.
I filled up in another state on the way home. By myself.
I had my G35, and the moron put the cheap stuff in, despite the fact that I told him twice to put premium. I noticed when I saw the receipt about 50 miles later when we got to our destination. That was the first and only time that I have ever used octane booster.
I filled up in another state on the way home. By myself.
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#58
Safety Car
just 2 questions: why didn't you stop the pump if you knew it was the wrong grade. I grew up in jersey and have stopped the pump numerous times (I did not get arrested) If you did not see the receipt did you actually feel any difference in the way your car drove. Be honest.
Anyone that tells you they notice a difference with fuel grade and power is bullshitting you. What you WILL notice, is the hole in the side of your block.
#59
it's a car-drive it
I also do not mind pumping my own gas but when in NJ I love to pull up to the pump and say fill r up. Actually yesterday when I was getting gas during a rain storm I was wishing I was in NJ. Despite the covering over the gas pumps I still got wet.
#60
it's a car-drive it
I didn't notice until we ended up at our destination. All things being equal, I run the cheap stuff unless the car calls for the high test. Knock sensors are great, but there is only so much you can do to prevent detonation with fuel that is not resistant enough. You can only pull timing so much and then you have (premature) detonation.
Anyone that tells you they notice a difference with fuel grade and power is bullshitting you. What you WILL notice, is the hole in the side of your block.
Anyone that tells you they notice a difference with fuel grade and power is bullshitting you. What you WILL notice, is the hole in the side of your block.
#61
Oh Hullow
the first time i pumped my own gas was at age 20 when i moved to NC... im now back in nj and i hate waiting for these shit heads to pump my gas... i was driving my fathers 09 3.5 altima the other day and this idiot gas station attendant who was on his cell phone after i specifically said 20 dollars SUPER puts regular in the car... i didnt realize until after i did a little quick math of 20 dollars divided by the price of the regular fuel...
i miss the freedom to pump my own gas and ive lived in jersey for 20 years of my life... 9 months out of this hell hole reminded me just how absurd it is to wait for someone quite possibly more likely to fuck up the act up filling a car with gas than i am.
i miss the freedom to pump my own gas and ive lived in jersey for 20 years of my life... 9 months out of this hell hole reminded me just how absurd it is to wait for someone quite possibly more likely to fuck up the act up filling a car with gas than i am.
#62
I now drive an accord....
When I drive to NJ I enjoy the lower prices but I am always nervous about someone else pumping.
Now for a question that I have often thought about. Say I live in NJ and I need gas for my mower. I assume I would be required to take my gas container to the pump and have someone else put the gas in it. Then I drive home and I am then free to dispense the gas however I want?
Now for a question that I have often thought about. Say I live in NJ and I need gas for my mower. I assume I would be required to take my gas container to the pump and have someone else put the gas in it. Then I drive home and I am then free to dispense the gas however I want?
#63
it's a car-drive it
When I drive to NJ I enjoy the lower prices but I am always nervous about someone else pumping.
Now for a question that I have often thought about. Say I live in NJ and I need gas for my mower. I assume I would be required to take my gas container to the pump and have someone else put the gas in it. Then I drive home and I am then free to dispense the gas however I want?
Now for a question that I have often thought about. Say I live in NJ and I need gas for my mower. I assume I would be required to take my gas container to the pump and have someone else put the gas in it. Then I drive home and I am then free to dispense the gas however I want?
#64
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Step 1: Remove nozzle from holder
Step 2: Select fuel (the buttons you dont push with your finger, you push it with your palm, they're that big. one says 87 (regular), the other 89 (Extra) and 91 (premium)
Step 3: Insert nozzle in fuel pipe (this is assuming that you were smart enough to pop the cover open and unscrew the cap...it's like opening a fridge and unscrewing a beer
Step 4: Squeeze until dollar amount on pump equals dollar amount in wallet.
Step 5: Stop squeezing, reinsert nozzle into holder
Step 6: put cap back on, close door, go pay.
Do any of those steps require any advanced classes to handle? Does this pose a risk to pregnant women, to the elderly? If you can't pump your own gas...how can you even drive?
The funny thing is here in Toronto, the steps above (most of them) are written clearly as possible on the side of the pump. More foolproof than Oregon's method IMO
Step 2: Select fuel (the buttons you dont push with your finger, you push it with your palm, they're that big. one says 87 (regular), the other 89 (Extra) and 91 (premium)
Step 3: Insert nozzle in fuel pipe (this is assuming that you were smart enough to pop the cover open and unscrew the cap...it's like opening a fridge and unscrewing a beer
Step 4: Squeeze until dollar amount on pump equals dollar amount in wallet.
Step 5: Stop squeezing, reinsert nozzle into holder
Step 6: put cap back on, close door, go pay.
Do any of those steps require any advanced classes to handle? Does this pose a risk to pregnant women, to the elderly? If you can't pump your own gas...how can you even drive?
The funny thing is here in Toronto, the steps above (most of them) are written clearly as possible on the side of the pump. More foolproof than Oregon's method IMO
#65
I grew up in NJ and remember how strange the self-service law seemed. Then again, liberal NJ is the land of overreaching and absurd laws. As a kid, I remember wanted a pet box turtle. The sale of pet turtles, however, was prohibited in NJ, so my parents would have had to bring me to PA to buy the turtle.
#66
it's a car-drive it
Step 1: Remove nozzle from holder
Step 2: Select fuel (the buttons you dont push with your finger, you push it with your palm, they're that big. one says 87 (regular), the other 89 (Extra) and 91 (premium)
Step 3: Insert nozzle in fuel pipe (this is assuming that you were smart enough to pop the cover open and unscrew the cap...it's like opening a fridge and unscrewing a beer
Step 4: Squeeze until dollar amount on pump equals dollar amount in wallet.
Step 5: Stop squeezing, reinsert nozzle into holder
Step 6: put cap back on, close door, go pay.
Do any of those steps require any advanced classes to handle? Does this pose a risk to pregnant women, to the elderly? If you can't pump your own gas...how can you even drive?
The funny thing is here in Toronto, the steps above (most of them) are written clearly as possible on the side of the pump. More foolproof than Oregon's method IMO
Step 2: Select fuel (the buttons you dont push with your finger, you push it with your palm, they're that big. one says 87 (regular), the other 89 (Extra) and 91 (premium)
Step 3: Insert nozzle in fuel pipe (this is assuming that you were smart enough to pop the cover open and unscrew the cap...it's like opening a fridge and unscrewing a beer
Step 4: Squeeze until dollar amount on pump equals dollar amount in wallet.
Step 5: Stop squeezing, reinsert nozzle into holder
Step 6: put cap back on, close door, go pay.
Do any of those steps require any advanced classes to handle? Does this pose a risk to pregnant women, to the elderly? If you can't pump your own gas...how can you even drive?
The funny thing is here in Toronto, the steps above (most of them) are written clearly as possible on the side of the pump. More foolproof than Oregon's method IMO
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Hm, in that case maybe you do need trained professionals to fill up gas in your car.
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So yeah, that was going to be my question. What happens when you ride up to one of these places on a motorcycle? Do you still have to have the schmuck attendant fill up $4 in gas?
#69
it's a car-drive it
I did not say it was me- I have seen it happen while pumping gas in my car (Yes, I do know how to) I also know how to change a flat tire, check tire pressure and the oil and the other fluids.
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#73
it's a car-drive it
I grew up in NJ and remember how strange the self-service law seemed. Then again, liberal NJ is the land of overreaching and absurd laws. As a kid, I remember wanted a pet box turtle. The sale of pet turtles, however, was prohibited in NJ, so my parents would have had to bring me to PA to buy the turtle.
#75
The sizzle in the Steak
I can't imagine not being able to pump my own gas.
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It would probably be a stupid idea to remand the law now though. Then people would really not understand how to pump their own gas after having it pumped for them all their lives.
#77
since we are on the subject of laws- you can not sell or buy fireworks in NJ. In Pa (at least when I lived there) they could sell fireworks but if you were a PA resident you could not buy them. If fact I tried to go in a fireworks store near where I lived. They wanted to see my driver's license and would not even let me in the store. My friend, with her jersey license, was allowed and bought them.
#78
Whats up with RDX owners?
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#79
Safety Car
We must be lucky (knock on wood) using regular gas in the cars we have and had owned that recommended premium. When we sold our 1991 Mazda Mx-6 GT for $5,000 3 years ago, it had 250,000+miles, with the original engine, turbo, clutch, transmission and ran excellent. We also owned a 1998 Eagle Talon TSI-awd, that had 125,000+miles when we sold that. It also had the original turbo, engine, clutch, transmission and ran excellent. We now have 84,000+ problem free miles on our 06 tsx.
#80
Evil Mazda Driver
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Oregon will let motorcyclists pump their own fuel but the attendant has to HAND the pump to the rider. They just don't want to abandon their complete control of the public.