imported my 2007 TSX today
#1
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imported my 2007 TSX today
All,
I finally picked up my (GF's actually) new 2007 black on black TSX (AT, no navi). Paid the dealership US$26,970 including it being brought to the border. (Bought it in Detroit ... importing it to Canada.
Took us a while (ie salesperson forgot to give me the original certificate of origin!!!
) but drove to the dealership to get it for me. (I am absolutely surprised that the US Customs officer told me nicely to get this paper otherwise the Canadian side would not allow me to bring it home! I will never say anything bad about them again!)
Anyway ... brought the car over (no plates) ... paid my C$4000 in taxes (C$2000 more taxes to pay once I have it safety'ed and plated) ... and some paperwork ... and we will be all good to go.
As I have mentioned in other threads to Canadians ... seriously look into do this for future cars. Not all dealerships will sell a new car to Canadians but the Acura dealerships in Michigan have no such problem. You need to play a little hardball to max out your savings but they will deal with you. I had a friend who brought over a new Volvo S40 so he helped us out. If you guys decide on buying a car -- PM me and I'll give you details and websites to ease the process.
Seriously ... I estimated that I saved C$3500 doing it this way (on a TSX). A bigger ticket car, the more savings. I plan on importing the new G35 coupe when it comes out but at least I'll have experience next time around!
Sorry -- no pics at the moment ... got home late (7pm -- no daylight) and no plates so I didn't want to have it out any longer than I have to. Will post pics once all the paperwork is done. I do like the new things in the '07 model (XM, TPMS).
I finally picked up my (GF's actually) new 2007 black on black TSX (AT, no navi). Paid the dealership US$26,970 including it being brought to the border. (Bought it in Detroit ... importing it to Canada.
Took us a while (ie salesperson forgot to give me the original certificate of origin!!!
![Annoyed](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/annoyed.gif)
Anyway ... brought the car over (no plates) ... paid my C$4000 in taxes (C$2000 more taxes to pay once I have it safety'ed and plated) ... and some paperwork ... and we will be all good to go.
As I have mentioned in other threads to Canadians ... seriously look into do this for future cars. Not all dealerships will sell a new car to Canadians but the Acura dealerships in Michigan have no such problem. You need to play a little hardball to max out your savings but they will deal with you. I had a friend who brought over a new Volvo S40 so he helped us out. If you guys decide on buying a car -- PM me and I'll give you details and websites to ease the process.
Seriously ... I estimated that I saved C$3500 doing it this way (on a TSX). A bigger ticket car, the more savings. I plan on importing the new G35 coupe when it comes out but at least I'll have experience next time around!
![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
Sorry -- no pics at the moment ... got home late (7pm -- no daylight) and no plates so I didn't want to have it out any longer than I have to. Will post pics once all the paperwork is done. I do like the new things in the '07 model (XM, TPMS).
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
Congrats! Guessing the speedo wont bother your girlfriend?
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I drove the car like 95% of the time today (border -> my house ... 1 stopover to my friend who drove my car ... she drove from my friend's house to her own house). She told me she needs 'time to adjust' to the car. I am scared ... nice brand spanking new car and she drives somewhat erratically. New car or not ... you should know how to drive an auto tranny car (ie feel of the dimensions, etc) after 5 minutes behind the wheel. She couldn't get out of my friend's driveway (I drove it in straight) without going onto the grass ... WHY?!
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Over the next couple of days ... I have to get temp plates so I can drive around legally. Then I can go to the garage (aka Canadian Tire) to pass federal inspection. They have to do 1 mod (daytime running lights) then I can get real plates. When I get real plates, I have to pay provincial sales tax (C$2000).
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What's sadder is that her name's only on the title ...
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#6
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Originally Posted by alex2364
Yea, I wouldn't be able to deal with KPH when I've used MPH all my life.
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Now ... temperature ... that's a different story. I totally work in Fahrenheit (and have to convert in my head into Celsius). Watching Detroit TV my whole life ... weather was only done in US units. When I lived in Toronto for college ... I had to learn metric temperature. My GF will be messed up with the A/C. I tell her ... 20 Celsius = 68 F ... then move it around as needed.
(Where I live ... we are more American than Canadian in many ways ...)
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#7
Originally Posted by derrick
New car or not ... you should know how to drive an auto tranny car (ie feel of the dimensions, etc) after 5 minutes behind the wheel. She couldn't get out of my friend's driveway (I drove it in straight) without going onto the grass ... WHY?! ![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
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^ Allow me to clarify: I can't believe I let her drive my TL-S (from time to time). I paid for a significant chunk of the TSX ... but she paid for >50% of it so it's technically 'hers'. But I'll be the one doing the maintenance + paperwork to get it on the road (legally).
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Congrats derrick. I'll definently give some thought to this next time I buy a car. Any idea how much installing DRL's will be?
And what about warranty? Do you plan to simply cross the border if you need something done?
And what about warranty? Do you plan to simply cross the border if you need something done?
#14
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Originally Posted by dom
And what about warranty? Do you plan to simply cross the border if you need something done?
#15
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
Yeah, that's the big question. Seems like a pain to have to drive to the US every time you need warranty work done.
Although I doubt an 07 TSX will require much warranty work.
derrick has the benifit of being minutes away from the border. Most of us would have to drive at least 2 hours.
#16
Warranty should be transferrable, or importing a car would never work (eg: someone moving permanently from California to Saskatchewan isn't expected to drive back to do warranty work!). The only thing I've heard is that it can sometimes be a pain with dealers wanting to honour it.
#17
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What about Warranty? I know dealers in Canada won't work on US vehicles because the warranty does not apply?
Originally Posted by derrick
All,
I finally picked up my (GF's actually) new 2007 black on black TSX (AT, no navi). Paid the dealership US$26,970 including it being brought to the border. (Bought it in Detroit ... importing it to Canada.
Took us a while (ie salesperson forgot to give me the original certificate of origin!!!
) but drove to the dealership to get it for me. (I am absolutely surprised that the US Customs officer told me nicely to get this paper otherwise the Canadian side would not allow me to bring it home! I will never say anything bad about them again!)
Anyway ... brought the car over (no plates) ... paid my C$4000 in taxes (C$2000 more taxes to pay once I have it safety'ed and plated) ... and some paperwork ... and we will be all good to go.
As I have mentioned in other threads to Canadians ... seriously look into do this for future cars. Not all dealerships will sell a new car to Canadians but the Acura dealerships in Michigan have no such problem. You need to play a little hardball to max out your savings but they will deal with you. I had a friend who brought over a new Volvo S40 so he helped us out. If you guys decide on buying a car -- PM me and I'll give you details and websites to ease the process.
Seriously ... I estimated that I saved C$3500 doing it this way (on a TSX). A bigger ticket car, the more savings. I plan on importing the new G35 coupe when it comes out but at least I'll have experience next time around!
Sorry -- no pics at the moment ... got home late (7pm -- no daylight) and no plates so I didn't want to have it out any longer than I have to. Will post pics once all the paperwork is done. I do like the new things in the '07 model (XM, TPMS).![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I finally picked up my (GF's actually) new 2007 black on black TSX (AT, no navi). Paid the dealership US$26,970 including it being brought to the border. (Bought it in Detroit ... importing it to Canada.
Took us a while (ie salesperson forgot to give me the original certificate of origin!!!
![Annoyed](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/annoyed.gif)
Anyway ... brought the car over (no plates) ... paid my C$4000 in taxes (C$2000 more taxes to pay once I have it safety'ed and plated) ... and some paperwork ... and we will be all good to go.
As I have mentioned in other threads to Canadians ... seriously look into do this for future cars. Not all dealerships will sell a new car to Canadians but the Acura dealerships in Michigan have no such problem. You need to play a little hardball to max out your savings but they will deal with you. I had a friend who brought over a new Volvo S40 so he helped us out. If you guys decide on buying a car -- PM me and I'll give you details and websites to ease the process.
Seriously ... I estimated that I saved C$3500 doing it this way (on a TSX). A bigger ticket car, the more savings. I plan on importing the new G35 coupe when it comes out but at least I'll have experience next time around!
![Too Cool](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/toocool.gif)
Sorry -- no pics at the moment ... got home late (7pm -- no daylight) and no plates so I didn't want to have it out any longer than I have to. Will post pics once all the paperwork is done. I do like the new things in the '07 model (XM, TPMS).
![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
#18
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Congrats on the car. However, it just seems to me that there are too many little inconveniences to do this as opposed to just putchasing the vehicle in Canada. But to each his own so enjoy the TSX, it's a fun little ride!
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#19
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Originally Posted by Sclass88
Congrats on the car. However, it just seems to me that there are too many little inconveniences to do this as opposed to just putchasing the vehicle in Canada. But to each his own so enjoy the TSX, it's a fun little ride! ![Thumbs Up](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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But $3500 is alot of money. For me anyway. If he only saved a K or 2 I'd probly agree.
#20
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Originally Posted by dom
Although I doubt an 07 TSX will require much warranty work.
I thought my CL wouldn't need much warranty work either, but I had both lower control arms replaced (one @ 7500 and the other @ 15,000 miles)
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Originally Posted by Street Spirit
Warranty should be transferrable, or importing a car would never work (eg: someone moving permanently from California to Saskatchewan isn't expected to drive back to do warranty work!).
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...adian+warranty
#21
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
TSX is made in Japan, right ??
I thought my CL wouldn't need much warranty work either, but I had both lower control arms replaced (one @ 7500 and the other @ 15,000 miles)![Why Me](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/whyme.gif)
I thought my CL wouldn't need much warranty work either, but I had both lower control arms replaced (one @ 7500 and the other @ 15,000 miles)
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No car is perfect. I'm just saying I'd bet he won't need anything done. From what I've been seeing and hearing over in TSX, 06's have been problem free. Hell, even 04's are for the most part perfectly relaible, not a mechanical issue in sight. (knocks on wood).
Even if he has problems, he's a 15 minutes drive away from the US dealer.
#22
Originally Posted by GreenMonster
We've had a couple of Canadian CL owners who imported US cars complain about warranty issues before:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...adian+warranty
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...adian+warranty
#24
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Originally Posted by synth19
good deal, this sounds like a good way to purchase a car if you're in Canada. Why is it that all the imports are so expensive in Canada?
I recall the roles being revered about 5-7 years ago with Americans buying cars up here.
It also depends on the car. The deal wouldn't be so favorable if he had bought a Civic.
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Congrats derrick.
#26
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OK ... allow me try and answer all the questions raised:
1) DRLs - installation ranges vary from C$75 to C$200. The place where Acura West (London, ON) sends their cars for retrofit charges C$200 for the deal. Someone I know who bought a car in the 'states this summer said Canadian Tire (Windsor, ON) charged C$75 for the job. (The Canadian Tire job looked half-assed so you do get for what you pay for ...
)
2) Warranty issues -- I have heard from locals that the area dealerships will not touch your car (even for an oil change). Of course, once out of warranty -- they have no problems to service your car. I know the manager of the Windsor Honda dealer fairly well so maybe he can help me out from time to time. So small things may have to be done in Detroit. As someone has said before -- I live 10 minutes from the border ... so a 30 min drive to an Acura dealership isn't such a big deal (just will cost me C$8 in toll and to bring my ID to go through the hassle of warranty issues). Since the TSX's first oil change is at 6500 miles ... not a big deal (I like the sensor it has to measure oil life
)
3) Why cars are expensive in Canada? Several reasons ... Canada is an extremely small share of the global car market. For cars to meet Canadian standards ... all the testing, compliance, etc -- manufacturers pass the cost to the consumer. (You know ... it's really expensive to design a speedo with km/h on the outside and MPH on the inside) Plus ... there are the numerous taxes we have to pay to keep our socialized medicine and social assistance afloat.
1) DRLs - installation ranges vary from C$75 to C$200. The place where Acura West (London, ON) sends their cars for retrofit charges C$200 for the deal. Someone I know who bought a car in the 'states this summer said Canadian Tire (Windsor, ON) charged C$75 for the job. (The Canadian Tire job looked half-assed so you do get for what you pay for ...
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2) Warranty issues -- I have heard from locals that the area dealerships will not touch your car (even for an oil change). Of course, once out of warranty -- they have no problems to service your car. I know the manager of the Windsor Honda dealer fairly well so maybe he can help me out from time to time. So small things may have to be done in Detroit. As someone has said before -- I live 10 minutes from the border ... so a 30 min drive to an Acura dealership isn't such a big deal (just will cost me C$8 in toll and to bring my ID to go through the hassle of warranty issues). Since the TSX's first oil change is at 6500 miles ... not a big deal (I like the sensor it has to measure oil life
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3) Why cars are expensive in Canada? Several reasons ... Canada is an extremely small share of the global car market. For cars to meet Canadian standards ... all the testing, compliance, etc -- manufacturers pass the cost to the consumer. (You know ... it's really expensive to design a speedo with km/h on the outside and MPH on the inside) Plus ... there are the numerous taxes we have to pay to keep our socialized medicine and social assistance afloat.
#27
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Originally Posted by Black Tire
Nice to have money lying around to do these things.
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#28
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Originally Posted by dom
The only reason this is doable is the strong Canadian dollar. 5 years ago derrick would have lost money on this transaction based off our 65 cent dollar.
I recall the roles being revered about 5-7 years ago with Americans buying cars up here.
It also depends on the car. The deal wouldn't be so favorable if he had bought a Civic.
I recall the roles being revered about 5-7 years ago with Americans buying cars up here.
It also depends on the car. The deal wouldn't be so favorable if he had bought a Civic.
Fast forward to 2006 ... US$1 = C$1.16 ... cheaper to buy in US. Had my car been built in Canada / US / Mexico, I would have avoided the 6.1% import duty (thanks to NAFTA).
Now ... using a Civic as an example -- I probably would have saved more (percentage-wise) had I been able to buy a Civic in the US than Canada. (Canadians -- check out honda.com to see how low their Civic prices are!!!) Thing is ... Honda USA has forbidden dealers to sell ANY car (new or used) to Canadians. If I wanted to buy a US-spec Civic, I would have to buy it private and bring it over myself (ie hunt down the original certificate of origin, etc) ... that would have been a pain in the ass!!! Otherwise, my GF would have bought a Civic ...
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^ Knowing what I know now ... more people should buy a new car in the States.
It's easy and money saved can go towards mods.
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#31
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How come it won't sound that fancy if I say I imported an EL to the US? ![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
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Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
And you can say you imported a TSX.
Sounds fancy that way.![Big Grin](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Sounds fancy that way.
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^ Dude ... it would be cheaper to do a "CDM" conversion than to bring a rusted EL over to the States. ![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
(It would be a "CDM CSX conversion" if you wanted to convert a new Civic...)
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(It would be a "CDM CSX conversion" if you wanted to convert a new Civic...)
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I may do the same some day, but my only hesitation would be the resale value of the US car takes a beating as soon as it crosses the border. The reason is partly "buyer beware" buying a used US car in Canada. I have heard that there is some pretty shady deals going on like selling write-off rebuilds that can't be sold in the US. We have a dealer here in Van that sells lots of US cars. Willingdon+Lougheed (Morey?) Nissan.
#34
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Originally Posted by triggle
I may do the same some day, but my only hesitation would be the resale value of the US car takes a beating as soon as it crosses the border. The reason is partly "buyer beware" buying a used US car in Canada. I have heard that there is some pretty shady deals going on like selling write-off rebuilds that can't be sold in the US. We have a dealer here in Van that sells lots of US cars. Willingdon+Lougheed (Morey?) Nissan.
Difference is when I sell it -- I have all the original documentation (even odometer reading of "10 miles" from the dealership when I bought it) so it won't take as much of a beating as I would anticipate. Furthermore, we will definitely drive this car into the ground (ie doesn't have the same transmission issues as my 2nd gen TL-S) so resale after 10 yrs won't be as much as an issue, than say ... a 4 yr old car.
Definitely 'caveat emptor' when buying used of an American car in Canada.
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#35
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Hey Derrick. Congrats on the new car. I went to Bloomfield Honda for an oil change (Windsor Honda wouldn't let me book an appointment on the weekend since I didn't buy my car there) and a black S2000 caught my eye. People there were also very willing to do all the paper work to get the car across the border for you. Maybe I should trade in my TSX and get the S2000 sometime next year.
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an s2000 is exactly the car i've been thinking of importing too. price difference is too great to ignore.
derrick, nice work. i'm assuming you've kept up with the 60+ page thread in redflagdeals?
if i had known about importing when i was in the market, i may have ended up with a usdm tsx or legacy gt.
derrick, nice work. i'm assuming you've kept up with the 60+ page thread in redflagdeals?
if i had known about importing when i was in the market, i may have ended up with a usdm tsx or legacy gt.
#37
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Originally Posted by TSX7
... a black S2000 caught my eye. People there were also very willing to do all the paper work to get the car across the border for you. Maybe I should trade in my TSX and get the S2000 sometime next year.
Cliff notes: can only buy a Honda used from a non-Honda dealer or private sale if planning on directly importing to Canada.
PS I had every intention on buying a new S2k as my 'summer car' from the US until I heard that news during my Civic (then TSX) search.
#38
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Originally Posted by afici0nad0
derrick, nice work. i'm assuming you've kept up with the 60+ page thread in redflagdeals?
Proximity to the border is definitely on my side. If I lived in Toronto ... I'd think twice since there's no close place to get warranty work completed.
#39
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Originally Posted by derrick
PS I had every intention on buying a new S2k as my 'summer car' from the US until I heard that news during my Civic (then TSX) search.
Get a used one in he US. We get seriously ripped with the S2K up here.
#40
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Originally Posted by dom
Get a used one in he US. We get seriously ripped with the S2K up here.
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Probably will end up with a new G35 coupe since the Infiniti dealer seems keen on helping me export one when the time comes ...
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