If you had a chance to live in Europe

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If you had a chance to live in Europe

What would you drive? Before this gets crazy, I may have an opportunity to go to Europe for work. If this happens, I may bring my trusty Subaru with me, then look at another car a year or two down the line. Or I might sell the Subie before leaving here and buy brand new / lightly used there.

I have a few ideas but I'd like to hear some of the collective crowd's thoughts. Here are the requirements:

$40K Max. (kids off to college)
Must seat 5
And importing from the US is not being considered.

And I can get Tourist/Diplomat/Military pricing on the following brands:

BMW/Mercedes/Audi/Chrysler/Jeep/Ford/Volvo/Honda (not Acura)


Thoughts?
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Originally Posted by crazyasiantl
VW Sirocco (sp?)
Originally Posted by crazyasiantl
Focus RS. in lime green or white
Originally Posted by Moog-Type-S
Scirocco R
Love it. But I forgot to mention:

I'd prefer something I can eventually bring back to the US. So US spec.
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Whatever it is, I would consider diesel. Diesels make a tremendous amount of sense in Europe, and in the upcoming years fuel will only become more expensive.







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I'd get an Accord Tourer with a stick
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what part of Europe?

im assuming somewhere where cars are LHD if you plan on bringing it back into the US?
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Jeep SRT

I would LOVE to have my Challenger over there and rock it on the Autobahn.
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Jeep SRT

I would LOVE to have my Challenger over there and rock it on the Autobahn.

Fun is lost when you visit the petrol pumps there.

I remember doing European Delivery for the M3 and asked the lady who was showing my car on why there arent many M3s in Germany. She told me I would understand at my first fill up. Now i know.

+1 on diesel
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Given the price of gas in Europe, I'd opt for an Acura TS....er....Euro Honda Accord.
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when i was in the UK last April, gas was 6pounds/liter or however they measure over there
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but i don't get how you can have something that is made US spec, be insured to drive in Europe for a while.... maybe it's just me, but that doesn't make sense
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Originally Posted by mitch14
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but i don't get how you can have something that is made US spec, be insured to drive in Europe for a while.... maybe it's just me, but that doesn't make sense
Because the military or some government agencies have deals with companies such as Chrysler and import some US models over there for sale.

I remember when we moved to Germany we took our Toyota Van with us. And before we left my fatehr bought a bimmer and we picked it up from the factory and shipped it and the Van back to the states...sorta like Euro Delivery.

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I would buy a used car, drive it for as long as you are there, THEN buy the car with the discount, drive it for a month on the euro delivery tag, and then bring it home.
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Wait, do you live in the US or Japan? I'm confused
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Fiat 500 Abarth Esseesse or Renault Megane RS Trophy (or a used R26.R)

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You're going to seat 5 in a FIAT 500?
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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
You're going to seat 5 in a FIAT 500?
He didn't say comfortably!

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Originally Posted by Ken1997TL
You're going to seat 5 in a FIAT 500?
Ive gotten six people into a CRX

TBH, I didnt even read his requirements. I just went off the thread title.

In which case, Id probably go for an Alpha Romeo 159 wagon. Or an Audi RS3. Or a used M5 wagon. I like liftgates.

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I still think buying used makes more sense unless you can avoid the 19% VAT buy buying new as a diplomat.
Old 06-23-2011, 10:48 PM
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Wow...toss up. I love Alfa Romeos. I'd also consider the Scirocco...and of course, Euro Fords are love.


I'd definitely be having a few tough decisions!
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And anything diesel has to be considered.
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If i had the chance to go to Europe. id try the Vauxhall Insignia VXR. 2.8L V6 320hp 4wd.

http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/microsite/...ia/index.shtml
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Originally Posted by charliemike
I still think buying used makes more sense unless you can avoid the 19% VAT buy buying new as a diplomat.

From what i seen on the M3 forums, the guys stationed over there dont get charged VAT.

http://www.pentagoncarsales.com/

Should be able to get a 335d for $40k with the discount?
Old 06-24-2011, 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by teranfon
Whatever it is, I would consider diesel. Diesels make a tremendous amount of sense in Europe, and in the upcoming years fuel will only become more expensive.







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Yes, a diesel will be considered. BMW and VW have very good ones, along with Mercedes BlueTec.



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what part of Europe?

im assuming somewhere where cars are LHD if you plan on bringing it back into the US?
It would be Germany. And the plan is to go there for 2-8 years, then come back to reality.

Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Because the military or some government agencies have deals with companies such as Chrysler and import some US models over there for sale.

I remember when we moved to Germany we took our Toyota Van with us. And before we left my fatehr bought a bimmer and we picked it up from the factory and shipped it and the Van back to the states...sorta like Euro Delivery.
Yes, very true. I am a US Gov. guy, so I get the military pricing like this:

BMW 335i Sedan ~$38K start.
MB 350 Sport ~$36K start.
Volvo S60 Turbo (300 HP AWD) ~$38K loaded
Honda Accord Coupe EX-L V6 (6MT of course) ~$30K
Audi A4 Premium Plus ~$34K

And other worldly:

BMW M3 starts at ~$59K
Mercedes C63 AMG ~$53K


Originally Posted by charliemike
I would buy a used car, drive it for as long as you are there, THEN buy the car with the discount, drive it for a month on the euro delivery tag, and then bring it home.
That's a good thought. Hmmmmmm. Save up for a C63?

Originally Posted by loulinjai
Wait, do you live in the US or Japan? I'm confused
I live in Japan now, but I may change jobs and go to Germany.

Originally Posted by charliemike
I still think buying used makes more sense unless you can avoid the 19% VAT buy buying new as a diplomat.
Oh boy, do I ever avoid the VAT. 19% sucks ass. I do get the TDS discount.


Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
From what i seen on the M3 forums, the guys stationed over there dont get charged VAT.

http://www.pentagoncarsales.com/

Should be able to get a 335d for $40k with the discount?
Yep. Pentagon sells a lot to our guys over there
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Time to resurrect this: I have a tentative offer to go to Germany, and the final offer should be in this week. Sooooooooo

I am going to try and bring the Subaru over there, and drive it for a little bit, then trade it in.

For the wife, she gets a 2012 Volvo XC90. I don't know if I'm going to go V8 or stick with the 3.2 litre. I'm paying cash so this makes a difference.

I thought I owed all of you an answer. Once we get over there (December / January), I'll post pics and share what the Volvo cost me.
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I can't imagine saying this but think I would either go Audi A4 or BMW 335i.
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I'd like to own something with Honda's 2.2 diesel. Perhaps the Accord Tourer or the CR-V.
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Originally Posted by asianspec
if i had the chance to go to europe. Id try the vauxhall insignia vxr. 2.8l v6 320hp 4wd.

http://www.vauxhall.co.uk/microsite/...ia/index.shtml
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Maybe consider something smaller, since a lot of the roads in Europe are smaller and narrower. VW GTI, Focus RS, Abarth

Ah... Germany... Volvo S60R, any Audi
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Originally Posted by mrmako

For the wife, she gets a 2012 Volvo XC90. I don't know if I'm going to go V8 or stick with the 3.2 litre. I'm paying cash so this makes a difference.
Just out of curiosity, why did you chose the xc90? It has been the same for the past 10 years!

I would go with a diesel since fuel is expensive over there

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That might work. Hmmm....

Originally Posted by imj0257
Maybe consider something smaller, since a lot of the roads in Europe are smaller and narrower. VW GTI, Focus RS, Abarth

Ah... Germany... Volvo S60R, any Audi
The GTI or R32 is also a thought. An A4 Premium w/Xenon and heated seats is $35K for me. A C350 Sport (w/302 HP vs. 211 for the A4) is about $36K....

Originally Posted by 007Acura
Just out of curiosity, why did you chose the xc90? It has been the same for the past 10 years!

I would go with a diesel since fuel is expensive over there

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We owned a V70 last time we were there. And we loved it. I know the XC90 design may be a bit old, but 4 years of service, good warranty, and the wife approving of it makes it a road trip king (Our oldest is gone in 1.5 years, so then we'll be down to 4 total, so the size is fine).

Priced out, a 3.2 AWD with navi and rear seat entertainment gets me for $40K OTD.

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E30 wagon.
Possibly a second car for me. Lots of decisions.
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my aunt just got an XC90. she hates it. she says its gutless. im assuming she got the V6
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Possibly a second car for me. Lots of decisions.
Well, if you go out there and find one, try and buy two, I will purchase the second...and yes, I am serious.
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Won't it be kind of hard trading in a RHD car in Germany?

If I were you, I'd get rid of the Subie while you're still in Japan, buy something decent enough for Germany, and then splurge on a nice car just before you move back to the US.

If you do keep the Subaru, you should just drive it till it dies. I think it's cool having a car that's been used in three different continents.
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Hmm when I was living in Europe I saw an Audi A4 3.0TDI everyday. Awesome vehicle I would go for that, or the Honda Accord. Looks just like the new TSX but with a better grill.

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