CAgine

Test drove the m4, my goodness...Good god.

To anyone who thinks the last generation M3 (although a great car) is better than the current m line, just NO. M4 is the sharpest car i've personally ever driven, and the 0-60 felt i swore was in the flat 3 or at least felt like it.

Almost opened up the check book right there and then, but had to collect myself.

Friend of mine suggested I try out the Lexus RC-f, but personally, the car is not even on my radar at the moment. Not a fan of its looks, and would definitely pass it up for a C63 AMG if not the BMW.

But as a car enthusiast at heart, i can only be open minded. Some of you might have had experience with both cars, so i'd like to know your guys experience or thoughts.

princelybug

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Bimmer.

TacoBello

Personally, I prefer the RC-F for a few reasons:

1. Lexus reliability vs BMW reliability. Enough said.

2. I see 10 M4s for every 1 RC-F. It's nice to be different.

3. Unless you are tracking the car, you'd likely never notice a performance difference between the two. I'm sure the M4 is the better car in terms of performance, but who cares for city driving. 467hp is nothing to laugh at from the RC-F

4. Although the M4 is a very nice car, I find BMW dashboards incredibly boring and their styling never changes inside or out. At least the RC-F is like nothing else on the roads.

5. Residual value- Lexus in general seems to hold its value better than BMW. Probably goes back to point #1.

6. Everyone will think you are a douche if you drive a BMW

AZuser

Why not both? You did say $ is a non issue.

1StGenCL

Caught up on some top gear yesterday and ran across the episode with these two, BMW all the way. I agree the bmw dash is blah but the Lexus looks overweight, no real style, and doesn't handle well.

Yes, it's different but having cancer would help me stand out in a group as well but I'm going to pass on that.

SamDoe1

M4 if you're going to sell it when the warranty expires or buy an extended one.

RC-F if you're going to keep it forever.

M4 is by far the better car but the long term reliability and repair costs are going to be higher.

Chief F1 Fan

Sounds like you made your decision already between the BMW and Lexus. I'd take the M4 every day of the year over the Lexus, I don't care what the Japanese car is capable of.

Chief F1 Fan

So you drive a BMW huh?

ttribe

M4.

TylerT

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Like most here, I have no real experience behind the wheel with either of these cars and I'm basing my choice purely off of magazine / interwebz hype.

For what it's worth, I'd take the M4 because it has 3 pedals.

Yumcha

BMW M4.

Once you go M, there is just no substitution.


Give Lexus points for trying but, I'd say the M4 wins...just my opinion of course though. And oh, the M4 looks better, IMO too.

JS + XES

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M4. It's a better driver's car, period. And I want it with a manual transmission.

This was a pretty cool comparo that MT did before.

Yumcha

And if money was no issue, slap some Vorsteiner wheels on the M4...here's their custom of the BMW: https://acurazine.com/forums/automot...4-news-933194/




Mind you, stock is just perfectly gorgeous as well.

CLtotheTL32

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I've driven a few RCFs and while the power is intoxicating, you can really feel it's weight in the corners. It's certainly not a bad car, but if I wanted something to drive to the track and then back home afterwards, it would be the M4.

Joneill44

MT did a good breakdown of the two

2015 BMW M4 vs. 2015 Lexus RC F Comparison - Motor Trend All Pages

RPhilMan1

Manual transmission is a must. M4. I think it looks much better, too.

oonowindoo

It does not sound like the OP has driven the M4/M3..go drive one and you will know right away which car you want.

Yumcha

And then, go drive an RLX...with upgraded tires...THAT'LL really swing the vote.

Sarlacc

Money was no object?

Charger Hellcat

Chief F1 Fan

^^ c'mon man-that's the best you can do with an unlimited budget?

Oh Sickest TL

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This was driving around my city today, I pulled up to him in the TL and gave him the thumbs up LOL..That carbon fibre roof and spoiler look great, that INFRARED colour is amazing but I too would rather have a M-series

New 2015 Lexus RC-F For Sale | Saint John NB

iTzVlad

I agree with #4 strongly. BMWs, as nice as they are, have incredibly bland dashboards. And their styling is just like Porsche's. Although in this case, I'd say the M4 looks slightly better than the RCF. The RCF isn't much of a looker. Hell its predecessor the ISF managed to look better.

Oh and all the cocks have gone over to Audi, according to Clarkson at least.

Chief F1 Fan

My 650 Gran Coupe does not have a boring dashboard by any stretch of the imagination so I totally disagree with #4. I'd rather have a BMW dash than a lot of other dashes. With BMW the look is austere but the functions are all there. With GM for instance, there are 4 buttons for every function (exaggerating but not far off) festooning the interior with all manner of cluttered up bullshit to break. No thanks.

ttribe

It it was really "Enough said." why did you provide 2-6?

Also, I'm guessing the majority of high performance car buyers are less worried about "reliability" given their budgets.

Anecdotal and likely hyperbole.

No doubt the RC-F is a powerful car, but the performance differences go beyond HP and are not strictly relegated to the track. This is faulty reasoning.

Preference. Remember the Pontiac Aztek was "like nothing else on the roads" as well.

Perhaps the only valid comment on the list. But, again, do buyers of this category of car really place that much importance on "residual value?" I have my doubts.

As long as I have a giant smile on my face from enjoying my car, I don't much care what some stranger thinks about me based on a snap judgment related to what car I drive.

JS + XES

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Come on man. Don't feed the trolls!

Sarlacc

Ride in one. Or better yet drive one. You'll
Understand.

Crazy Bimmer

Oh hay, I like BMWs.

Sarlacc

Psssh. We all know your affiliation with Buick.

oonowindoo

People will really have to have one to understand the technology and attention to details BMW packs in their "boring dashboard"

ttribe

Boosted yet?

Myxomatosis

I saw the interior of a new 650 just the other day. I was very impressed. I said to myself "now that's a grand coupe."

I would never spend a dime on a lexus... end of

Rick_TL-S

The car on average only falls around 1-2 seconds behind the M4 based on collected circuit times, but that's largely due to its weight (for some reason it was behind by 2 seconds on Autocar's Dry circuit, but managed to be 5 seconds quicker in the wet; the biggest margin between the 2).

I'd hardly say that's means for "doesn't handle well".

JS + XES

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Oh, totally missed that. It does handle well. I love the look of RCF as well.

Just wouldn't buy it over M4 anyday when they are priced similarly.

cjTL

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C63 amg s.

juniorbean

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MTEAZY

E36 M3 with leftover cash for trackdays and tires.

Chief F1 Fan

Drive a 458, then you'll understand.

Joneill44

Where da OP at

Sarlacc

on a track maybe...wouldnt want to drive one around daily.

Plus while exotics can look pretty...they never really do anything for me.

TacoBello

What I meant is that's enough said about the reliability between the two brands. Everyone knows the story.

The wife and I can afford an M4, but you better believe the reliability keeps us from buying one. The hit on depreciation is the other reason keeping us from buying one. I like knowing I have a car I never have to spend a dime on for the first 100k miles. I dunno about you, but most of the people I know who drive an M3, or similar, don't light their money on fire. Those who can burn money generally don't drive M4s.

No, not really. I see a new M3/M4 at least once a week. I NEVER see the RC-F. I've only seen one to date. Take a look around and tell me how many you see on the road.

Again, everyone always talks about track performance, but I am willing to bet that less than 5% of new M3/M4 owners actually track their cars. So in reality, if the M4 is 2 seconds faster around a race track, who cares?

For city driving you likely will NEVER notice the performance difference. As already discussed, the RC-F is no slouch in the corners.

Yes, preference. But that was one of my reasons for choosing the RC-F, which is what this whole thread is about, lol. While I can understand the styling of the RC-F, and Lexus in general these days isn't for everyone, I for one, love them. To say the RC-F is as bad as the Aztek is a bit of a stretch. Pontiac did sell a ton of them though, so somebody was buying.

I sure do. I work hard for my pennies and squandering them isn't at the top of my list of things to do. I wouldn't keep an M4 outside of warranty, so the hit I'd be taking after 4-5 years (whatever the warranty period is) would make me cry. That's a lot of money to burn.

Although I don't necessarily agree, nothing wrong with that!