I drove a new Civic Si 6MT today
#41
Safety Car
^ With the new ratings its close. its 197 hp fom 2 liters.
Costco...I tend to disagree about the torque thing. My dad's C5 feels a lot quicker than my Si.
My old S2000 felt a lot quicker than my Si.
Both of them are a lot quicker than my Si.
I guess my point is that while small differences my be hard to tell from the old butt dyno, its not hard to tell the difference between a 4 and an 8. Its also not hard to tell when a car is 600 lb lighter than another.
Costco...I tend to disagree about the torque thing. My dad's C5 feels a lot quicker than my Si.
My old S2000 felt a lot quicker than my Si.
Both of them are a lot quicker than my Si.
I guess my point is that while small differences my be hard to tell from the old butt dyno, its not hard to tell the difference between a 4 and an 8. Its also not hard to tell when a car is 600 lb lighter than another.
Last edited by Gilgamesh; 05-23-2008 at 08:41 AM.
#42
2010 SHAWD
Originally Posted by Gilgamesh
^ With the new ratings its close. its 197 hp fom 2 liters.
Costco...I tend to disagree about the torque thing. My dad's C5 feels a lot quicker than my Si.
My old S2000 felt a lot quicker than my Si.
Both of them are a lot quicker than my Si.
I guess my point is that while small differences my be hard to tell from the old butt dyno, its not hard to tell the difference between a 4 and an 8. Its also not hard to tell when a car is 600 lb lighter than another.
Costco...I tend to disagree about the torque thing. My dad's C5 feels a lot quicker than my Si.
My old S2000 felt a lot quicker than my Si.
Both of them are a lot quicker than my Si.
I guess my point is that while small differences my be hard to tell from the old butt dyno, its not hard to tell the difference between a 4 and an 8. Its also not hard to tell when a car is 600 lb lighter than another.
Do you post on 8thgencivic? I go there for info but I just can't leave AZ.
#44
Instructor
I'm on 8thcivic.com if that is what you are talking about. Same SN there too. I find myself back here all the time though. Although, the Si is not a fast car, it is exciting to drive and it does get great gas mileage (I drive a ton for work). Someone mentioned that the TL-S can do everything better than the Si. Although I don't know much about that car and I haven't driven one, I would put my Si up against it in the handling category. The Si is so light and tossable. Combine the weight with the LSD, my Michelin PS2s, and HFP suspension and I would guess it would give the TL-S a run more its money. My thoughts.
#47
Instructor
I haven't driven a miata, but you should give the HFP suspension a try if you get the chance. There is a guy on 8thcivic.com that switched to HFP suspension and put down 1.06 g's on the skidpad with stock all-seasons (increase from 0.87 previously). Sounds a little crazy, but I'd be curious to see what difference my PS2s would have in combination with the HFP.
#48
2010 SHAWD
I may have to add that to my list of things to do to my car seeing as how I'm going to keep it well after it's been paid off.
Guys, quick question. Do you think we'll be able to get 200,000 miles out of this engine? I only wonder because it's such "high strung" motor. I take care of my car religiously and don't beat on it excessively.
Guys, quick question. Do you think we'll be able to get 200,000 miles out of this engine? I only wonder because it's such "high strung" motor. I take care of my car religiously and don't beat on it excessively.
#49
Instructor
For sure. I am at 39,000 right now with no problems whatsoever. The engine feels as if it would pull to 10,000. The high rpms shouldn't prevent the car from reaching 200 IMHO.
#50
Originally Posted by Gilgamesh
^ With the new ratings its close. its 197 hp fom 2 liters.
Costco...I tend to disagree about the torque thing. My dad's C5 feels a lot quicker than my Si.
My old S2000 felt a lot quicker than my Si.
Both of them are a lot quicker than my Si.
I guess my point is that while small differences my be hard to tell from the old butt dyno, its not hard to tell the difference between a 4 and an 8. Its also not hard to tell when a car is 600 lb lighter than another.
Costco...I tend to disagree about the torque thing. My dad's C5 feels a lot quicker than my Si.
My old S2000 felt a lot quicker than my Si.
Both of them are a lot quicker than my Si.
I guess my point is that while small differences my be hard to tell from the old butt dyno, its not hard to tell the difference between a 4 and an 8. Its also not hard to tell when a car is 600 lb lighter than another.
Of course a C5 feels quicker than an Si, I never meant to imply it that way. There's a bunch of factors involved, but I would guess most people would "feel" that an S2000 is faster than a TL-S in a straight line despite both cars getting similar 1/4 mile times.
Its easy to notice the difference between a 4 and an 8. I notice the difference when someone sits in the passenger seat of my car, when I'm carrying a bunch of stuff in the trunk or back seat, etc. so maybe when I notice the difference between two cars as described above, I might exaggerate it more than others would think.
#51
Originally Posted by sonnyboyacura
I was recently reading that the k20 gets about 100HP per liter and that this stat is kinda of special? Is this true? Is 100hp/liter not common? Please educate me. LOL
#52
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I have an 06 Si and I love it. I am at around 20k on it. OP you won't really get all that much better mileage from an Si but do whatever u want.
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