He had a Khrysler 300C before and is in a gas guzzler now so the rule still applies Bobby!

 

Well said. Have you read the book "Stuff White People Like" by Christian Lander? It speaks to the Moca-Latte--frappa-whitie-greenies. The Star-sucks crowd. Just sick funny.

Go hear and be white... http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/

 

Dude that site is funny. I will bookmark that. Sarcasm is a favorite of mine.

 

Looks like sales have tanked... wonder how the Insight will do:


Hybrid car sales go from 60 to 0 at breakneck speed

The gas-electric vehicles are piling up on dealers' lots as anxiety over gasoline prices evaporates. But more hybrid models are on the way.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...,6682265.story[/color]

 

people buy according to current gas prices.
right now you can get a decent deal on a hybrid.
now if it will pay for itself the million dollar question.
if gas goes to 4 bucks again maybe.
if it stays around 1.75 or 2 dollars doubt it.

I've been kicking around the idea of the E class diesel. and I like the E class just my million dollar question will it pay for itself vs a RL, or GS Lexus.

 

I came across that site a few weeks ago after a mention on CNN.com. IMHO, it's one of the funniest sites on the internet.

 

The thing is, the E series has a resale that is excellent. That alone is worth it if you can swing a good price. If the vehicle is well maintained, it should last a real long time.

 

they will be recyclable

 

I wonder how many people that bought hybrids actually thought ahead and factored in how much it would cost to replace the batteries.

 

I don't think original owners will face this issue.

I still maintain that buying a hybrid is more about "feel good" than economics.

 

why do you say that? because you think a majority of them will simply get rid of the car when that time comes?

The cost savings just don't add up.

 

that's the thing about diesel i love besides the mileage/fuel economy.
it's not unusal of a diesel engine to get 500-600,000 miles out of a diesel engine provided you changed oil and fuel filters like recommended.
for me I keep a car 300,000+ miles so i'm leaning diesel next time.
plus it's easy to get 10,000 miles per oil change on a diesel.
only thing sucks is on the E-class diesel they got a Urea injection (to meet the 2010 diesel EPA requirements) it cost about 10 dollars PER GALLON of urea. and I'll go through about 9-10 gallons of Urea per year. not that much
(90-100 bucks per year and that's 20-25k per year of driving) but it's one more added expense. but to get 35 mpg with the E-class diesel vs 22-25 mpg with a RL it will pay for itself.

 

This topic always cracks me up for a number of reasons-

1. The silly assed assumption that technology has to be fully mature before you buy into it. No one here bought a cell phone in the 90s (or 80s), no one bought the first gen Ipod, no one bought a Model T car, because they weren't the mature versions of their respective products, right?
2. 20-somethings who buy $30-50k cars based on image talking about the economics of buying a car like a hybrid.

I'm happy to see hybrid technology get funded and used by real people in the real world. You couldn't ask for a better engineering test bed. The fact that there's a willing group of people happy to push this tech forward.

Beware the Hummer vs. Prius study from CNW Marketing. They amortized the entire development of Prius into the existing model base, but gave the Hummer H3 a free pass since it was designed on the Colorado/canyon frame. They decided that the Prius life was 109k miles, but that the Hummer would go over 250k. It's nonsense in print.

I'm not enamored with the current crop of hybrids out there, mostly because they look so damn goofy. But the concept of recapturing braking energy for later re-use, combined with idle-off tech, is solid to me.

Getting stuck on the notion that what you currently see is all that there will ever be is silly. The 640k IBM PC had to be built first in order for you to be playing with your 8GB Core2Quad today. Have a little vision.

Will it? Diesel is 50c+ more per gallon around here.

 

God I can't tell you how much I hate hybrids! Every time I see a Prius I think of two things:

1. The South Park episode where it was called the "Pious" and everyone was sniffing "smug" from their own asses.

2. The Top Gear test showing that an M3 was more fuel efficient than the Prius. That one still cracks me up.

Anybody who truly thinks they are "saving the planet" by buying a hybrid is just an idiotic waste of blood and organs....

 

1) No, it's not about immature technology. I think it's great that there are companies doing this. But the technology really does not equal a benefit right now, and there are those that like to say that this will save the planet. The advertising leads you in that direction. I just don't like their message because they forget about the battery. It has to be disposed of at the end of life, and right now, that is not pretty.

2) The economics are really off, as the vehicle is subsidized by the US government. Take that away, and the vehicle is too expensive for most consumers.

The technology will evolve. I just think it's a tough sell when the practical gain is not really anything right now. It truly is only feel good (especially with the GM hybrid, which is not that great).

 

Good reply to that post

 

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Great for people who think with their heart. I just wish they'd move to another country.

 

Really? Move to another country? That is the dumbest thing I've read on this site all week.

 

you wouldn't know sarcasm if it bit you in the face.

 

That's okay, the way this country is going they won't have to move. And we'll all be enjoying excellent fuel economy, too!

 

I'd be terrified of that.