How to find the correct temperature?
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How to find the correct temperature?
I know of a couple that wants to add HIDs/Xenons to their Odyssey Touring and they've come to me. I have no idea if they need a kit or just the bulbs themselves. Also how to find the correct temperature 6000k,8000k something legal if possible thanks!
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If they dont come with Xenons from the factory then you need to add a kit.
Not sure what size they take though.
Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.
I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.
Not sure what size they take though.
Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.
I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
If they dont come with Xenons from the factory then you need to add a kit.
Not sure what size they take though.
Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.
I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.
Not sure what size they take though.
Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.
I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.
#5
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Jesal is spot on, its best if you get a kit designed for the car you plan on installing them in. You need ballasts, bulbs and the wiring/plugs required to make it happen. If you buy a plug and play kit all you have to do is literally unplug the old ones, mount the ballasts(usually double sided tape or zip ties is enough) install the bulb then plug the ballast into the factory wiring and the wires from the ballast to the bulb. HID also produce less heat then their halogen counterparts, so heat is not an issue. Also the due to the nature of how the ballast converts the power they use less amperage to achieve much brighter light, all around a win win situation, minus the cost of course.
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Originally Posted by iTimmy
Jesal is spot on, its best if you get a kit designed for the car you plan on installing them in. You need ballasts, bulbs and the wiring/plugs required to make it happen. If you buy a plug and play kit all you have to do is literally unplug the old ones, mount the ballasts(usually double sided tape or zip ties is enough) install the bulb then plug the ballast into the factory wiring and the wires from the ballast to the bulb. HID also produce less heat then their halogen counterparts, so heat is not an issue. Also the due to the nature of how the ballast converts the power they use less amperage to achieve much brighter light, all around a win win situation, minus the cost of course.
Thanks a lot for your help! How do I find out which kit was designed for the car? As much as installation go I don't know jackshit , I'll try to find a mechanic or ask TommySalami
#7
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I think I have heard good things about the kits from mobilehid.com. I haven't had any personal experience though, so maybe someone can chime in.
I would avoid any cheap ebay kit and the like. of course retrofitting/projectors would be the best choice, if you just want something simple a normal kit might be okay. The kits from mobilehid come w/ the wiring harness that should be used. ie. power wire directly to the battery with a relay controlled by your stock headlight harness.
I would avoid any cheap ebay kit and the like. of course retrofitting/projectors would be the best choice, if you just want something simple a normal kit might be okay. The kits from mobilehid come w/ the wiring harness that should be used. ie. power wire directly to the battery with a relay controlled by your stock headlight harness.
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That was uncalled for...
The 6000k my buddy has in his Cougar are PURPLE. Look just like the 12000K in the chart above.
Not sure if he got the wrong bulbs, or 6000k is just that purple, but like others have said stick with the 4300k kit and light output should be much better.
Also, installing a plug and play kit is as easy as hooking up a computer. All the plugs can only go in one way.
Not sure if he got the wrong bulbs, or 6000k is just that purple, but like others have said stick with the 4300k kit and light output should be much better.
Also, installing a plug and play kit is as easy as hooking up a computer. All the plugs can only go in one way.
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Since the Odyssey's don't come with projectors to begin with I would advise against upgrading to HID. You're better off adding some PIAA or SilverStar bulbs to get about a 4000-4100K light output. The optimal light output for HID systems is 4300K so it's not that far off.
The reason I advise against adding HID to non-projector housings is 1) glare 2) more glare 3) pissing off other drivers because of the glare mentioned in 1 and 2. Housings specifically made for HID's are different from standard halogen housings, they focus the light differently.
The reason I advise against adding HID to non-projector housings is 1) glare 2) more glare 3) pissing off other drivers because of the glare mentioned in 1 and 2. Housings specifically made for HID's are different from standard halogen housings, they focus the light differently.
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Since the Odyssey's don't come with projectors to begin with I would advise against upgrading to HID. You're better off adding some PIAA or SilverStar bulbs to get about a 4000-4100K light output. The optimal light output for HID systems is 4300K so it's not that far off.
The reason I advise against adding HID to non-projector housings is 1) glare 2) more glare 3) pissing off other drivers because of the glare mentioned in 1 and 2. Housings specifically made for HID's are different from standard halogen housings, they focus the light differently.
The reason I advise against adding HID to non-projector housings is 1) glare 2) more glare 3) pissing off other drivers because of the glare mentioned in 1 and 2. Housings specifically made for HID's are different from standard halogen housings, they focus the light differently.
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
Good call! As for the two brands you mentioned, do I have to find the bulb that much the Odyssey or any bulbs would just fit?
Sylvania, who manufactures the Silverstar bulbs, makes sizes to fit practically all bulb types. They have two levels of Silverstar bulbs, one that is at 4000K and another that is at 4100K. They differ in price by a few bucks last I recall.
You can go here to find out which bulb fits your car:
http://www.sylvania.com/ConsumerProd...lacementGuide/
However, double check with your owners manual before buying the bulb.
I have yet to ever buy a set of PIAA headlight bulbs so I can't really offer much advice on those bulbs, but the brand speaks for itself. they are high quality.
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I have to correct/clarify something in my original post.
I stated that HID's shouldn't be used in the ody because it doesn't come with projectors. The point I was trying to make was that the housing wasn't designed for HID's, projector's or not. That's the problem most people have with installing HID's in civics and other cars that use halogen bulbs.
I stated that HID's shouldn't be used in the ody because it doesn't come with projectors. The point I was trying to make was that the housing wasn't designed for HID's, projector's or not. That's the problem most people have with installing HID's in civics and other cars that use halogen bulbs.
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^ I think the most expensive trim of Ody comes with the HID.
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
^ I think the most expensive trim of Ody comes with the HID.
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Thanks a lot for your help! How do I find out which kit was designed for the car? As much as installation go I don't know jackshit , I'll try to find a mechanic or ask TommySalami
clear your pm box, son
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
I have to correct/clarify something in my original post.
I stated that HID's shouldn't be used in the ody because it doesn't come with projectors. The point I was trying to make was that the housing wasn't designed for HID's, projector's or not. That's the problem most people have with installing HID's in civics and other cars that use halogen bulbs.
I stated that HID's shouldn't be used in the ody because it doesn't come with projectors. The point I was trying to make was that the housing wasn't designed for HID's, projector's or not. That's the problem most people have with installing HID's in civics and other cars that use halogen bulbs.
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Originally Posted by TommySalami
clear your pm box, son
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
It doesn't. Only the Sienna in XLE Limited AWD trim offers them.
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So... what's your final decision, Mark?
My dad just bought an Ody as well. I was thinking of installing HID on it for him. Judging by most of suggestions here, I'm assuming, installing those slightly brighter bulbs are the best bet..
My dad just bought an Ody as well. I was thinking of installing HID on it for him. Judging by most of suggestions here, I'm assuming, installing those slightly brighter bulbs are the best bet..
Last edited by JS + XES; 08-02-2008 at 10:06 PM.
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
So... what's your final decision, Mark?
My dad just bought an Ody as well. I was thinking of installing HID on it for him. Judging by most of suggestions here, I'm assuming, installing those slightly brighter bulbs are the best bet..
My dad just bought an Ody as well. I was thinking of installing HID on it for him. Judging by most of suggestions here, I'm assuming, installing those slightly brighter bulbs are the best bet..
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Yeah, I think I'm just gonna put those SilverStars to increase the night vision a little. My dad previously had 07 Sienna, and he says this Ody is much much better than Sienna in terms of driving experience and pretty much everything else.
It drives nothing like a minivan. So much low-end torque is being put down through 3.5
It drives nothing like a minivan. So much low-end torque is being put down through 3.5
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
Yeah, I think I'm just gonna put those SilverStars to increase the night vision a little. My dad previously had 07 Sienna, and he says this Ody is much much better than Sienna in terms of driving experience and pretty much everything else.
It drives nothing like a minivan. So much low-end torque is being put down through 3.5
It drives nothing like a minivan. So much low-end torque is being put down through 3.5
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Originally Posted by nokiaman
I find the ECO VCM mode very funny though, It only comes one when you're not touching the accelerator. Whenever you accelerate slighlty or significantly it goes off. It should work when stopped in traffic. Also don't like the fact how it just pops on or off all the time.
They should have had a dial to coincide with it where peopel can adjust it's sensitivity.
All around though, it's a great vehicle. If and when the times comes, if we need a larger vehicle, I wouldn't have a problem buying an Ody.
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That ECO mode light doesn't have to do with VCM. It's just there as a guide to try and get the best gas mileage. It is annoying see that thing blink all the time.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Acura
If they dont come with Xenons from the factory then you need to add a kit.
Not sure what size they take though.
Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.
I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.
Not sure what size they take though.
Also 4300k is the temp that most cars have that come standard with xenons. Anything higher you lose light output but get a blueish to purplish tint that some want.
I had 6000k in the 330ci I had, never again I will do that. I had such a hard time seeing when it would rain out. Stick to 4300k and the visibility will be outstanding.
Big ass to that!
I had 6000k in the CL and in the rain it was just stupid.
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I'm not crazy about kits due to like one member said before about the glaze and on-coming traffic flipping their lights at you.
now if the car owner is still saying to do it I'd go with a 10,000K
now if the car owner is still saying to do it I'd go with a 10,000K
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