Hondata will be available for J Series
04-01-2005, 12:19 PM
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Hondata will be available for J Series
http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...le%5fid=339233
Yes Tony, they are planning to. However, several factors conspire to put the J-motors behind the K-series family.
First of all, the J-series engines are less well supported in the aftermarket. Thus, the need for additional tuning (especially custom user programmable) as provided by Hondata is less than that in the B or K market.
Second, the J-series engines generally come in a higher state of tune from the factory than the K or B. Sound strange? If you look at air/fuel mixture, smoothness of the torque curve, etc. you'll find that the J-series engines are already closer to an optimum tune while the K-series is run rich and retarded from the factory.
Finally, without DOHC VTEC, i-VTEC, etc. there are fewer areas to find gains, whatever the level of factory optimization.
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First of all, the J-series engines are less well supported in the aftermarket. Thus, the need for additional tuning (especially custom user programmable) as provided by Hondata is less than that in the B or K market.
Second, the J-series engines generally come in a higher state of tune from the factory than the K or B. Sound strange? If you look at air/fuel mixture, smoothness of the torque curve, etc. you'll find that the J-series engines are already closer to an optimum tune while the K-series is run rich and retarded from the factory.
Finally, without DOHC VTEC, i-VTEC, etc. there are fewer areas to find gains, whatever the level of factory optimization.
SC
it's from vtec.net and NOTYPER is Shawn Church from Church Automotive.
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04-01-2005, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
omg people it's a thread link to the vtec.net website with a link....it is not ajoke. ugh....
04-01-2005, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by phipark
WILL be available and MIGHT be available are two totally different things.
welp according to shawn church they are working on it
That'd be cool......point being it's not a joke
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04-01-2005, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by phipark
I call April Fool's
Also, that message sounds like they aren't going to do it because not much of a gain would be had.
Also, that message sounds like they aren't going to do it because not much of a gain would be had.
yea but it'd be hard to believe that nothing could be done to optimize something......especially with the headers/intake
04-01-2005, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by phipark
I was just being pessimistic and not trying to get my hopes up. I hope it works better than the Unichip.
welp yea the unichip was a piggy back solution and hondata would be a reprogram.
04-01-2005, 07:57 PM
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like they said, the J series is already highly tuned. doubtful the gains will be much better than the unichip. we'll see though, i hope.
04-01-2005, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
like they said, the J series is already highly tuned. doubtful the gains will be much better than the unichip. we'll see though, i hope.
04-01-2005, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Zapata
omg people it's a thread link to the vtec.net website with a link....it is not ajoke. ugh....
04-02-2005, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by fsttyms1
but it would be able to give us the opritunity to change redline, and for us non type-s owners that would make a difference with the modding and adding the type s-cams and such!
04-04-2005, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by phile
That doesn't mean they're all-knowing. I remember the Oracle had details of the Acura RL's SH-AWD system before TOV even posted the press release info. He kept saying it's not going to be the MDX's AWD system. Even before that, TOV was still speculating about whether the RL would be AWD or RWD, and if AWD, they were expecting something like the MDX's system.
04-05-2005, 07:19 AM
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04-05-2005, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
PM from HONDATA over on ClubRSX.com
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when is that post from? The ECU is flashable as allmotor has already said.
04-05-2005, 08:57 AM
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Call me a 
but what exactly is reflashing? 
but what exactly is reflashing?
04-05-2005, 10:09 AM
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Any future releases from Hondata for the J-series motors? Specifically the J32A2 in the Type-S cars?
There's a little power to be made (5-10whp dyno proven w/UniChip) by leaning things out. Maybe more with timing advancements.
I'd appreciate any feedback.
Thanks,
~ Steve
There's a little power to be made (5-10whp dyno proven w/UniChip) by leaning things out. Maybe more with timing advancements.
I'd appreciate any feedback.
Thanks,
~ Steve
No plans for the 3.2 CL. We cannot find a way to modify the ECU - although it does use a flash programmable chip.
Doug
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04-05-2005, 01:03 PM
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04-05-2005, 03:34 PM
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Well Shawn definitely has a pulse on these things and is a smart guy, not like him to make this stuff up or be so completely wrong.
04-05-2005, 03:39 PM
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Well Shawn definitely has a pulse on these things and is a smart guy, not like him to make this stuff up or be so completely wrong.
It happens to the best of us. Since Doug actually works at Hondata, I'd take his word for it.
04-05-2005, 03:58 PM
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because they are getting affordable enough now that people who would like to buy one and flash the ECU could do so. 
04-05-2005, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
because they are getting affordable enough now that people who would like to buy one and flash the ECU could do so.
they've learned more?
any number of reasons.
04-05-2005, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by mattg
because they are getting affordable enough now that people who would like to buy one and flash the ECU could do so.
they are starting to get in the price range for high school kids to buy them. And high school kids like to mod.