Have you seen these "Tweels" by Michelin
01-27-2009, 12:56 PM
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Have you seen these "Tweels" by Michelin
I don't quite know how I feel about these... I wonder what would happen if you drove through the mud?
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/tweel-airless-tire.htm
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/tweel-airless-tire.htm
01-27-2009, 02:58 PM
#7
Its a 'future' type thing, when cars drive themselves. they're supposed to be smart wheels with a bunch of censors, communicating with other cars. it'll let the other vehicles know where potholes and crap are, so the cars can avoid them. saw it on science channel a couple weeks ago.
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01-27-2009, 03:32 PM
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Its a 'future' type thing, when cars drive themselves. they're supposed to be smart wheels with a bunch of censors, communicating with other cars. it'll let the other vehicles know where potholes and crap are, so the cars can avoid them. saw it on science channel a couple weeks ago.
01-28-2009, 04:24 PM
#16
Is it possible to have a low profile tire at least with that? I wonder how ride quality will be with a stretched "sidewall" so to speak? Like riding on plastic, something similar to Hot Wheels?
04-23-2011, 04:50 PM
#17
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Airless tires to hit the market
Michelin is expected to hit the market with airless tires. Just think. No more concerns about checking your air pressure and making sure it is balanced. No more worried about flat tires. No valve stems or stupid government requirements for TPMS's (anytime we can get the government further away from our lives is a good thing).
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/118597...less_car_tire/
I am not offering an opinion as I will reserve judgement on these until the jury has been in for a while. But it is interesting.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/118597...less_car_tire/
I am not offering an opinion as I will reserve judgement on these until the jury has been in for a while. But it is interesting.
04-23-2011, 10:48 PM
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Yea looks like the same video from a few years ago. I haven't heard anything new about them, so I doubt it's progressed much.
regarding them being ugly, I'd assume if it did make production wouldn't it have to have some type of sidewall? Can't imagine mud or snow would be fun to get out of there.
regarding them being ugly, I'd assume if it did make production wouldn't it have to have some type of sidewall? Can't imagine mud or snow would be fun to get out of there.
No thanks.
04-23-2011, 11:45 PM
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I hope they have some stiffness options, and something that at least resembles a sidewall. Looks way too soft in those videos, and I'm not sure the exposed inside will be popular.
Otherwise, I can see this being popular with hypermilers. Bet they're a nice chunk lighter than conventional rubber filled with air.
Otherwise, I can see this being popular with hypermilers. Bet they're a nice chunk lighter than conventional rubber filled with air.
04-24-2011, 10:19 AM
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Considering our Fit has been patched in one tire and plugged in another two I'm very open to this.
04-24-2011, 10:52 AM
#32
a little higher then normal but by no means horrible though (some people have to have tires patched every couple of months)
so my best recommendation, STOP driving near new construction (otherwise picking up nails and screws is kinda rare; it's the contractors that don't put the nails/screws away properly, then they fall out of there vehicle/truck onto the road)
04-24-2011, 11:01 AM
#33
I saw this awhile ago. Don't think it's caught on yet. They're pretty innovative for a tire company, i'll grant them that. They were the first to market with super wide singles for tractor/trailers to replace dually's and those are pretty popular now for their MPG and weight savings.
04-24-2011, 11:08 AM
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three patches in two years.....
a little higher then normal but by no means horrible though (some people have to have tires patched every couple of months)
so my best recommendation, STOP driving near new construction (otherwise picking up nails and screws is kinda rare; it's the contractors that don't put the nails/screws away properly, then they fall out of there vehicle/truck onto the road)
a little higher then normal but by no means horrible though (some people have to have tires patched every couple of months)
so my best recommendation, STOP driving near new construction (otherwise picking up nails and screws is kinda rare; it's the contractors that don't put the nails/screws away properly, then they fall out of there vehicle/truck onto the road)
My wife drives over 100 miles a day in the Fit and it's not always the same route so we're screwed either way.
04-24-2011, 11:27 AM
#35
could the construction possible be near her work instead... so you don't see it nearby (yes you can take a different route everyday, but you still have to get to the same place, so even though the main distance may be a different route, the nearby city streets are probably going to be the same)
and as far as your g getting a nail, kinda just sounds like a fluke, since you have not picked up any others since (and what is that 9 months ago...)
04-24-2011, 12:14 PM
#36
Pretty sure these will be around in the future regardless of it's popularity with passenger vehicles simply because of the potential applications in military and construction use. I remember seeing this a while back, questioning the durability.... until I saw the construction vehicle get blown up and still roll on as if not a single fuck was given.
The problem with runflats like the PAX tire is that it's a situational benefit (no need for a spare or to change it yourself, get you where you need to go in a pinch) with numerous considerable downsides.... detriment to your wallet, ride quality and handling all at the same time. So far, what we know about the tweel is that it looks unconventional, and it can (in industrial applications only, probably) take a blast from a land mine and keep on going and it doesn't have the inconveniences of radial tires.
Maybe they'll implement some sort of faux sidewall to give it the appearance of a conventional radial tire. If so, I'd be all for it... for a daily driver I think the benefits would outweight the flaws, even if these tires cost a little more.
Not gonna pretend to know all about the dynamics of it, but I imagine the tweel would be less affected by sidewall loading temperature. I don't think it'll have much use in motorsports... guess it depends on where Michelin takes it
As someone who's had THREE patches in one tire before, I'm all for this. Tire shops will probably be completely against it though, despite how dirty changing a tire is.
The problem with runflats like the PAX tire is that it's a situational benefit (no need for a spare or to change it yourself, get you where you need to go in a pinch) with numerous considerable downsides.... detriment to your wallet, ride quality and handling all at the same time. So far, what we know about the tweel is that it looks unconventional, and it can (in industrial applications only, probably) take a blast from a land mine and keep on going and it doesn't have the inconveniences of radial tires.
Maybe they'll implement some sort of faux sidewall to give it the appearance of a conventional radial tire. If so, I'd be all for it... for a daily driver I think the benefits would outweight the flaws, even if these tires cost a little more.
Not gonna pretend to know all about the dynamics of it, but I imagine the tweel would be less affected by sidewall loading temperature. I don't think it'll have much use in motorsports... guess it depends on where Michelin takes it
As someone who's had THREE patches in one tire before, I'm all for this. Tire shops will probably be completely against it though, despite how dirty changing a tire is.
ed every time you mentioned the word "tweel"
04-24-2011, 12:18 PM
#38
Really though, I think the success of the tweel will depend on its price and how they market it. But it seems like there's a competitor (the nuts and bolts look silly though) with a low profile... not exactly sure about this one.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-iOS..._peter_becker/
oh, and tweel.
tweel
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-iOS..._peter_becker/
oh, and tweel.
tweel
04-24-2011, 12:19 PM
#39
Pretty sure these will be around in the future regardless of it's popularity with passenger vehicles simply because of the potential applications in military and construction use. I remember seeing this a while back, questioning the durability.... until I saw the construction vehicle get blown up and still roll on as if not a single fuck was given.
The problem with runflats like the PAX tire is that it's a situational benefit (no need for a spare or to change it yourself, get you where you need to go in a pinch) with numerous considerable downsides.... detriment to your wallet, ride quality and handling all at the same time. So far, what we know about the tweel is that it looks unconventional, and it can (in industrial applications only, probably) take a blast from a land mine and keep on going and it doesn't have the inconveniences of radial tires.
Maybe they'll implement some sort of faux sidewall to give it the appearance of a conventional radial tire. If so, I'd be all for it... for a daily driver I think the benefits would outweight the flaws, even if these tires cost a little more.
Not gonna pretend to know all about the dynamics of it, but I imagine the tweel would be less affected by sidewall loading temperature. I don't think it'll have much use in motorsports... guess it depends on where Michelin takes it
As someone who's had THREE patches in one tire before, I'm all for this. Tire shops will probably be completely against it though, despite how dirty changing a tire is.
The problem with runflats like the PAX tire is that it's a situational benefit (no need for a spare or to change it yourself, get you where you need to go in a pinch) with numerous considerable downsides.... detriment to your wallet, ride quality and handling all at the same time. So far, what we know about the tweel is that it looks unconventional, and it can (in industrial applications only, probably) take a blast from a land mine and keep on going and it doesn't have the inconveniences of radial tires.
Maybe they'll implement some sort of faux sidewall to give it the appearance of a conventional radial tire. If so, I'd be all for it... for a daily driver I think the benefits would outweight the flaws, even if these tires cost a little more.
Not gonna pretend to know all about the dynamics of it, but I imagine the tweel would be less affected by sidewall loading temperature. I don't think it'll have much use in motorsports... guess it depends on where Michelin takes it
As someone who's had THREE patches in one tire before, I'm all for this. Tire shops will probably be completely against it though, despite how dirty changing a tire is.
with the high cost of said tires, LIMITED people/shops able to service them (special equipment required for demounting and mounting the tire)
04-24-2011, 12:20 PM
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4 months..... then you had no issues for the previous 20 months (or so then)?, and watch her probably all of a sudden stop picking up nails one month, because the construction finishes up....
could the construction possible be near her work instead... so you don't see it nearby (yes you can take a different route everyday, but you still have to get to the same place, so even though the main distance may be a different route, the nearby city streets are probably going to be the same)
and as far as your g getting a nail, kinda just sounds like a fluke, since you have not picked up any others since (and what is that 9 months ago...)
could the construction possible be near her work instead... so you don't see it nearby (yes you can take a different route everyday, but you still have to get to the same place, so even though the main distance may be a different route, the nearby city streets are probably going to be the same)
and as far as your g getting a nail, kinda just sounds like a fluke, since you have not picked up any others since (and what is that 9 months ago...)