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Old 05-16-2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by F23A4
...and honestly, I think the new Civic Si 4dr might wind up being a flop. Though I personally love the car, I rarely see them on the road and regularly see the coupes. (My local dealer has over a dozen Si sedans in inventory.) If I can get one for < invoice, then I may pick up one for my son.
add the hatchback to that too, I only see the coupes whizzing around town, I've never seen the hatch in real life and I may see the SI-Sedan once a week (less than I see CL's.... speaking of CL's I saw a beautiful white CL-S on highway 6 like 20 mins ago).

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Geo Metro...lamest car ever...
but def not a flop, I still see metro's ricing around every once n awhile.
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last Gen Honda Civic!!!
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
last Gen Honda Civic!!!
Considering that Honda sold probably 5 million of those in that generation, I hereby declare your entry invalid
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^^^

I don't think some people understand the topic of this thread... it's NOT what YOU think is ugly or just meh... it's about cars that failed in terms of sales
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Originally Posted by is300eater
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I don't think some people understand the topic of this thread... it's NOT what YOU think is ugly or just meh... it's about cars that failed in terms of sales
tru dat!
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Originally Posted by chungkopi
last Gen Honda Civic!!!
Maybe he means the EP3?
I tried googling the total sales of that model but no luck, I wonder if anyone could have better luck than I did.

But chyea overall Civics are like the opposite of a flop....
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Originally Posted by Beltfed
Buick Reatta.....aka Regretta.
Those were pretty interesting cars... I still see 'em around here and there...

Guy around the corner from me had one for sale about 5 years ago... Took him over a year to find a buyer...
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Originally Posted by Garnet Canuck
Ford Pinto
Late 70s Mustangs
Pintos weren't a flop... the exploding gas tanks were an issue, but they sold a shit load of 'em. Lightweight, RWD, and Cheap... God I wish someone made something like that today.

Originally Posted by GreenMonster
They sold over 3.17 million [1] Pintos.

Ford still sold over 200K a year of 'em even after they started exploding

They sold 1,107,718 [2] Mustang II's from 1974-1978, which isn't exactly chump change either.

Anytime you can sell 100,000 of any model per year, you've got a winner on your hands.

At it's height, Ford sold more Pinto's per year then Honda Accords were sold last year...

[1] http://pintopage.fordpinto.com/Production%20Figures.htm

[2] http://www.mustangii.org/tech/production.shtml
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I nearly forgot the Oldsmobile Trofeo, a cousin to the reatta
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I did not know they sold that many POS Mustang II's
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Worst Car of the Millenium, from the worst site of the Millenium

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Worst-Cars/
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What about the 2 door Tahoe?
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Originally Posted by o2cls
What about the 2 door Tahoe?
I actually liked those (back then)
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I just thought of another one, the FWD mercury capri convertible
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Originally Posted by weaselbob74
Worst Car of the Millenium, from the worst site of the Millenium

http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/Worst-Cars/
THE VEGA!!! My Grandpa talks about how poorly designed that car was, how you could never start it in the cold (fyi, they lived in OHIO) because GM used different metals in the block and heads so when it was cold, a certain metal contracted more than the other which made it impossible to start w/o an electric blanket on the engine for an hour b4 startup.

^ But is it a flop? I thought they sold quite a few of those back in the days.... As for the two door tahoe, i dont see them on the road anymore but I remember back in their day it was quite the teen fave, hell i remember saying as a little kid "mommy when I grow up I want a two door tahoe!" Now I just say VTEC or die...

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chrysler crossfire... hahahaha, i saw one on 664 today, and it's little spoiler thing was up. It was the most toylike piece of matchbox i've ever seen

<--- loves that car
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especially the SRT-6 model
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Hummer H3....
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what about the brand "Saturn" as a collective flop?
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^^ If they keep pulling moves like the Aura and Sky, they wont have to worry about that.
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i actually like the new saturn suv...
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Originally Posted by CCns24
Hummer H3....
how do you defined "Flop"? I'm just curious I see them quite often and I hardly doubt GM plans on dropping this vehicle anytime soon
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Originally Posted by is300eater
how do you defined "Flop"? I'm just curious I see them quite often and I hardly doubt GM plans on dropping this vehicle anytime soon

You see a lot of H3s? I think I have seen like 4. With the new gas prices I honestly cant see Hummer being around much longer.
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Olds Alero, Aurora, Intrigue, Silhouette,
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Originally Posted by o2cls
^^ If they keep pulling moves like the Aura and Sky, they wont have to worry about that.
very true. and I hope they do well.

I was thinking of the Ion, L-series, etc.
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what i see as a flop that had GREAT potential was the Plymouth Prowler... for some reason it never caught on....The potential to stuff high hp, with those looks would have made it a winner.... but no
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Originally Posted by NightHawk CL9
what i see as a flop that had GREAT potential was the Plymouth Prowler... for some reason it never caught on....The potential to stuff high hp, with those looks would have made it a winner.... but no
I think the V6 killed that vehicle.
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I think the V6 killed that vehicle.
I think the "gay" population liking it probably did it as well.
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Originally Posted by Black Tire
I think the "gay" population liking it probably did it as well.
:rolf: That may have had something to do with it
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Originally Posted by Black Tire
Olds Alero, Aurora, Intrigue, Silhouette,
I guess you could just say that the whole Oldsmobile brand was a flop... or American Motors (who used to own Jeep), etc etc etc...
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the CL was a flop for sure both 1 and 2 generations.

The Cobalt SS was a flop, aside from the tuner / performance car portion of the automotive community this car was a flop. I still have yet to see one in real life and i live in bay area norcal and commute to San Francisco alot.
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Originally Posted by Trackruner228
You see a lot of H3s? I think I have seen like 4. With the new gas prices I honestly cant see Hummer being around much longer.
I totally disagree, first of all... do I see H3's around ? Yes, I do... Do I see them every corner I turn like Toyota Camery's? NO I don't... But I do see them... it's not like the Isuzu Axiom or Pontiac Aztek where you can go for weeks maybe months and not see one. Second, there'll always be a market for SUV's (lots of soccer mom's that absolutely refuse to drive a mini van), especially mid size SUV's... Haven't you notice every car maker's focus on this category? 3rd, yes... the gas prices have been going up... but if anything, it'll turn people away from the V8 H2 making the I-5 H3 more appealing...

when you say something is a "flop" like a movie... it's in the theaters for one week maybe 2 weeks, 3 at the very most...

when a car is a "flop" it's in production 1-2 years, 3 at the very most... I don't see GM pulling the H3 off the market anytime soon (first year model was 2006). BUT with that said... I don't know why da hell the Aztek was in production from 2001-2005

if anything, they'll pull the H2 LONG before the H3
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Mazda Millenia - My Dad had one before he got his TL. Was a fantastic car before the supercharger went and it blew oil everywhere.

The Millenia was supposed to be the entry level car for Mazda's luxury division called Amanti but the company failed because of a lack of funds so all of the premade Millenia's were just rebadged as Mazda's. Too bad it never made it, it was a great car. I supposed the lack of any redesign in its 9 year existance did it in.

Acura Vigor - Nice car, just extremely bland looking...
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Originally Posted by is300eater
I totally disagree, first of all... do I see H3's around ? Yes, I do... Do I see them every corner I turn like Toyota Camery's? NO I don't... But I do see them... it's not like the Isuzu Axiom or Pontiac Aztek where you can go for weeks maybe months and not see one. Second, there'll always be a market for SUV's (lots of soccer mom's that absolutely refuse to drive a mini van), especially mid size SUV's... Haven't you notice every car maker's focus on this category? 3rd, yes... the gas prices have been going up... but if anything, it'll turn people away from the V8 H2 making the I-5 H3 more appealing...

when you say something is a "flop" like a movie... it's in the theaters for one week maybe 2 weeks, 3 at the very most...

when a car is a "flop" it's in production 1-2 years, 3 at the very most... I don't see GM pulling the H3 off the market anytime soon (first year model was 2006). BUT with that said... I don't know why da hell the Aztek was in production from 2001-2005

if anything, they'll pull the H2 LONG before the H3



Originally Posted by SanJoseRoller
the CL was a flop for sure both 1 and 2 generations.

The Cobalt SS was a flop, aside from the tuner / performance car portion of the automotive community this car was a flop. I still have yet to see one in real life and i live in bay area norcal and commute to San Francisco alot.
I already said the CL was a flop....

The Cobalt, i wouldn't quite say flop... but def a dissapointment, isn't it's competitor the tC as for like teen cars?? I'm not too sure about that but I know that I don't see too many cobalts on the roads these days.
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Sterling

I actually saw one on the road today...
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Fiero was sad. They had the basic equation right, it just need a good product manager. They finally started getting better right at the end. Imagine a generation 4 or 5 Fiero with the new DI turbo in it. Maybe 30K for a midengine targa with 260 hp and maybe 2500 lbs. Boy that would suck. GM...sigh.
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Originally Posted by is300eater
Sterling

I actually saw one on the road today...
I haven't seen a sterling in years.
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Originally Posted by Tireguy
I haven't seen a sterling in years.
IIRC, the Sterling almost made Ford's Merkur lineup seem like a sales success.


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