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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 02:18 PM
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And let's not forget how both VW and Porsche had very close ties to the Third Reich...
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
Have to be careful not to tread into R&P territory, but at this moment in time... Germany and Japan are probably more kindly regarded overall by the rest of the world than the US is. So, pick your poison
Yeah, noted...not trying to steer this into that sort of debate.


And definitely, it is pick your poison. This is why my original comment was about the quality of the product and not the people you consider are associated with it...because, it's a gray area with almost heaps of things.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by oonowindoo
Because to them (Japanese), they did not do anything wrong. It is cleared stated in this history book and that is what they have been teaching their kids nowadays.

I have no problem with Japanese cars but the moment they start investing more in military and get approved to be on the P5 nations. That is when i will start boycotting their shit. They need to pay for what they did in WWII and they have to understand that.
That's unfortunate, but it is a blurred line.

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And I'm not at ALL hating on Costco's viewpoints about GM...but, seriously, I would be beyond shocked if none of the major car manufacturers had full-stupid mid-level morons whose behavior was detrimental/toxic to the progress of the front-line staff/engineers.

So, perspective-wise, one could argue the Japanese auto-makers are worse due to what the country signified in WWII.

Food for thought.
They did some horrible, unforgivable things in that time period. Even more disgusting is how they didn't own up to it. This discussion can get really drawn out with no end in sight, but I'll just acknowledge it and leave it at that.

Taken out of history's context, I like how Japan's culture is today. It is better than how America's society is. I learned that Toyota's manufacturing process halts all production when they find a defective product, and don't resume until they have a fix. At least, that's how it's supposed to be.

Japanese people overall are just more likely to take pride in their work. It's not just about collecting a paycheck and sticking around until pension eligibility kicks in.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 03:06 PM
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http://jalopnik.com/5829059/top-ten-...to-drive-fast/
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 03:14 PM
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Good list. I pretty much agree with all their candidates...I've driven a few of those but surprisingly, not the Miata yet, which gets the top spot in that list.


Should get around to it.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 03:15 PM
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And I may get laughed at for this...but, the Pontiac Sunfire? It was a riot to drive too...then again, may have had something to do with being alot younger and one of my first times driving anything and stick.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
And I may get laughed at for this...but, the Pontiac Sunfire? It was a riot to drive too...then again, may have had something to do with being alot younger and one of my first times driving anything and stick.
I learned how to drive on a Cavalier and without any experience in other cars, still thought it sucked.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman
I learned how to drive on a Cavalier and without any experience in other cars, still thought it sucked.
Fine. Raff @ me then.
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Old Jun 20, 2014 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
That's unfortunate, but it is a blurred line.



They did some horrible, unforgivable things in that time period. Even more disgusting is how they didn't own up to it. This discussion can get really drawn out with no end in sight, but I'll just acknowledge it and leave it at that.

Taken out of history's context, I like how Japan's culture is today. It is better than how America's society is. I learned that Toyota's manufacturing process halts all production when they find a defective product, and don't resume until they have a fix. At least, that's how it's supposed to be.

Japanese people overall are just more likely to take pride in their work. It's not just about collecting a paycheck and sticking around until pension eligibility kicks in.
I agree. Japanese culture is all about honor, loyalty, polite and quality. However, those good qualities can be turned into evil if not used correctly.

Very similar to some European Country.
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Old Jun 22, 2014 | 02:13 PM
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rumor mill... possible LaFerrari Spider

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Old Jun 22, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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Yups...posted here a few days back: https://acurazine.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=839
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Old Jun 22, 2014 | 05:01 PM
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Rumored one in production as a SP car. Beyond that, far fetched.
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The majority of his 'claims' are pretty ambigious and anyone with somewhat knowledge and understanding of how Ferrari launches it's models could have dished them up up. LaF XX is coming we all know that (that being said I cannot say it enough times that none of the LaF's on the 'Ring were XX prototypes). Latest is they might plan to do a closed preview for selected clients at Finali Mondiali. LaF Spider is easy guesswork in the days of increased personalization and SP cars. From what I've heard from sources and also read on FChat, there supposedly is a single LaF Spider SP car for a client in development.

Why didn't he upload a picture of the document he claims to get info from?

The V6 458 "little brother" is boloney from a-z. I heard the same type of rumour about the Cali T last year, that there would be a V8 and V6 version. Well, Ferrari sells enough cars, they are capping production numbers and spreading the production of a model more equally throughout it's lifetime. A brand new model into that equation? Not happening.
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Old Jun 22, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by srika
rumor mill... possible LaFerrari Spider
Originally Posted by Yumcha
Yups...posted here a few days back:
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 09:58 AM
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which one would you choose?

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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 10:41 AM
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I'm a hardtop guy. Aventador Roadster is one of very, very few exceptions. Diablo too. I guess Lambos in general.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 10:44 AM
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^^ I hear you



didn't know they facelifted the Zonda. this is the 760LM

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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 10:53 AM
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I should elaborate, nothing wrong with a Carrera GT. In fact, targa would be my preferred body style assuming it doesn't have excessive flex. The vent-and-door Roadster follows that recipe, as does the CGT.

R8 Spyder = blegh

and if it always/only comes as a roadster, that's okay.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 10:55 AM
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I think the R8 Spider is sexayyy as fawkkkkk
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 01:02 PM
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 01:09 PM
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Which one did Paul Walker DIAF in...?



Too soon?
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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there are no red CGT's in the picture.... might wanna visit the eye doc
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 01:15 PM
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Yeah, resolution turned up too high on this workstation. Nevermind.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Costco
I'm a hardtop guy. Aventador Roadster is one of very, very few exceptions. Diablo too. I guess Lambos in general.
This x infinity. I always thought the Murcielago Roadster, 6.2 or 6.5, was absolutely stunning even next to the Coupe, but the soft top issues would have killed any desire to actually buy one.

This however, the hottest looking car imo, even in the midst of Poopdicks, P1s, & Zondas.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 04:15 PM
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Is this one of those selective desaturation pictures? Porsche needs to brighten up the color portfolio.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 04:19 PM
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a quick scroll here will explain your question...

http://51768833.de.strato-hosting.eu..._registrye.htm
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 04:30 PM
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So they are mostly silver/black with a few reds and yellows tossed in. Cool.
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Old Jun 23, 2014 | 04:32 PM
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mostly silver.
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 03:34 PM
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ever wonder how much an older Koenigsegg would run you?

wonder no more.

http://www.dupontregistry.com/autos/...itemid=2237188

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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 03:38 PM
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Do want!
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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 04:23 PM
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Do want!
Too late, just bought it.



































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Old Jun 24, 2014 | 04:48 PM
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uh, people are crashing a lot of nice cars all over the place.

learn how to fucking drive. thanks.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:25 AM
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oh shttt BC is turning (one of?) his CGT into a Gemballa Mirage GT.... here it is in Germany now

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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 01:54 PM
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Who's BC?

But it's cool seeing a supercar like that torn apart.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Aman
Who's BC?

But it's cool seeing a supercar like that torn apart.
BoostedChad...?
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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Who's BC?

But it's cool seeing a supercar like that torn apart.
Some rich dude on Luxury4Play.com that has a bunch of cars. Here's what his signature currently says:

2014 White Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe Series II
2014 White Mercedes SLS Black Series - RENNtech
2013 Matte White Mini Cooper GP - RENNtech 300HP
2012 Matte White Bugatti Veyron SuperSport - 1200HP
2011 Cobalt Blue Porsche 997 TurboS - TechArt/BBi 850HP
2010 Matte White Lamborghini Murciélago LP670SV
2009 White Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe - Mansory 600HP
2006 White Mercedes McLaren SLR - Mansory/RENNtech 800HP
2005 Cobalt Blue Porsche Carrera GT - Gemballa Mirage
2005 Feyence Yellow Porsche Carrera GT
2005 Feyence Yellow Porsche Carrera GT
1993 Silver Bugatti EB110 SuperSport

Also, he's the one who called the Agera a hunk of shit:

http://jalopnik.com/former-koenigseg...is-a-489316580

http://www.luxury4play.com/koenigseg...g-agera-x.html

And he's also the one who wrecked a MP4-12C during the Gold Rush Rally last year:

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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 03:07 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 03:18 PM
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by CLtotheTL32
Some rich dude on Luxury4Play.com that has a bunch of cars. Here's what his signature currently says:
da fuq does he do to afford a collection like that? Google search on Benjamin Chen (real name) brings up nothing other than that car crash.
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Old Jun 26, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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da fuq does he do to afford a collection like that? Google search on Benjamin Chen (real name) brings up nothing other than that car crash.
IIRC, family money.
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