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For the record:
-I don't think the Versa isn't a bad car, although the author said as much. IOW, to my mind, the Versa and that CVT suck. Period.
-I like the power in my current DD (258 hp when new, surely less by now) ... when my foot says giddy-up, it goes ... and the VTEC's nice, too ...
-That said, my DD's driving dynamics basically suck: nose-heavy, fwd, and it's too floaty in the twistys ...
Many years ago I owned a second-gen Ford Tempo, which sucked. Sometime after that I owned a Saturn Ion, which also sucked, but a bit less.
I stopped reading here. Either this guy is a glutton for punishment or, as Maj says, he is not a car guy. Who willingly buys a Tempo AND an Ion??
With that said - I think my daily is a pretty competent car. Power wise, it's great. But as a car guy, I'm always searching for more. I wish the chassis was a bit more buttoned down, but overall, it's pretty good for a relatively heavy hatchback. I love the interior and the "bland-ness" of the exterior. I just wish it got better gas mileage.
But people in their teens and early 20s (on limited budgets) often inherit such vehicles as their first cars. (Hence the qualifying phrase at the very start "many years ago" .....)
I judge people who drive boring cars. Not because that's all they can afford, or because it's practical and sole purpose is to commute. I judge because the are so many choices out there, and they still picked that piece of shit. Cmax for one.
This.
Every time I see some POS low rent Nissan or, god forbid, a Mitsubishi I always wonder what drove someone to spend their hard earned money on that vs something like a Civic, Corolla, or Focus...
Originally Posted by charliemike
We should ban anyone posting a link to an article that says the Versa isn’t a bad car.
I had one as a rental car, I wanted to shoot myself. I got beat off the line by someone in a Kia Soul and I'm pretty sure he didn't know we were even racing.
Originally Posted by civicdrivr
I stopped reading here. Either this guy is a glutton for punishment or, as Maj says, he is not a car guy. Who willingly buys a Tempo AND an Ion??
With that said - I think my daily is a pretty competent car. Power wise, it's great. But as a car guy, I'm always searching for more. I wish the chassis was a bit more buttoned down, but overall, it's pretty good for a relatively heavy hatchback. I love the interior and the "bland-ness" of the exterior. I just wish it got better gas mileage.
It does, you just made it worse by tuning it.
I'd put the Golf R in the fun category (if the GTI is then surely the R is). I agree with loving the bland-ness of the exterior. Definitely flies under the radar, especially so with 17" base wheels.
Originally Posted by nanxun
Yeah, a 911 and AMG C-class are not (and should not be) in the same category as CTR, GTI, FoST, FiST, etc.
Key question: Does the emblem on your Caddy have a wreath or no-wreath? :wink:
He also states that the AMG-C and the 911 are fun cars and cars that are beyond fun cars are ones with over 400hp...the 911 and the AMG C class both have more than 400hp...
What the fuck is beyond fun supposed to me? Dangerous? What kind of limit is 400Hp as that line in an age where manufacturer cars are now producing 1,000+Hp, and the newest V8 Mustang is on the cusp of 500Hp out of the box?
What the fuck is beyond fun supposed to me? Dangerous? What kind of limit is 400Hp as that line in an age where manufacturer cars are now producing 1,000+Hp, and the newest V8 Mustang is on the cusp of 500Hp out of the box?
It's not always about HP.
An FR-S to me is plenty fun and it's got very little by today's standards. And man, I would love the MX-5.
An FR-S to me is plenty fun and it's got very little by today's standards. And man, I would love the MX-5.
I'm not debating about whether or not power matters. I'm questioning someone apparently drawing a line the sand at 400hp as a "beyond fun" car. The majority cars pushing 400Hp+ are all arguably going to be fun.
I'm not debating about whether or not power matters. I'm questioning someone apparently drawing a line the sand at 400hp as a "beyond fun" car. The majority cars pushing 400Hp+ are all arguably going to be fun.
I judge people who drive boring cars. Not because that's all they can afford, or because it's practical and sole purpose is to commute. I judge because the are so many choices out there, and they still picked that piece of shit. Cmax for one.
“if you buy a rubbish car, what you’re saying is, i have no interest in cars. if you have no interest in cars, you have no interest in driving. and if you have no interest in something, it means you’re no good at it, which means you must have your driving license taken away.”
“if you buy a rubbish car, what you’re saying is, i have no interest in cars. if you have no interest in cars, you have no interest in driving. and if you have no interest in something, it means you’re no good at it, which means you must have your driving license taken away.”
Every time I see some POS low rent Nissan or, god forbid, a Mitsubishi I always wonder what drove someone to spend their hard earned money on that vs something like a Civic, Corolla, or Focus...
There’s a guy I used to see on my morning commute from the old house that had a mauve (Mitsu calls it raspberry I guess) i-MIEV. He drove it like the only thing he hated more than life was that car.
There’s a guy I used to see on my morning commute from the old house that had a mauve (Mitsu calls it raspberry I guess) i-MIEV. He drove it like the only thing he hated more than life was that car.
Work has a car enthusiast mailing list, I swear the most common make is Porsche. They coordinate parking next to each other like some sort of door-ding hating nazi group.
I chose the wrong career path why the fuck are used 981 Caymans so expensive? Yes, last ones with a flat-6, but still.
Every time some guy posts pics of his GT3 I die a little inside.
Work has a car enthusiast mailing list, I swear the most common make is Porsche. They coordinate parking next to each other like some sort of door-ding hating nazi group.
I chose the wrong career path why the fuck are used 981 Caymans so expensive? Yes, last ones with a flat-6, but still.
Every time some guy posts pics of his GT3 I die a little inside.
We have that at my work though the cars are much less exotic... I park my lowly people's car next to an Audi A3, BMW 340i, and a Lexus RC every day in the exact same spot way out at the end of the parking lot. Sucks a big one in the winter but enjoyable to walk out there in the summer.
Work has a car enthusiast mailing list, I swear the most common make is Porsche. They coordinate parking next to each other like some sort of door-ding hating nazi group.
I chose the wrong career path why the fuck are used 981 Caymans so expensive? Yes, last ones with a flat-6, but still.
Every time some guy posts pics of his GT3 I die a little inside.
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As you may know, Porsche ended the 991 GT2 RS production on February 2019 and under normal circumstances, it wouldn’t be possible to give you another car. But, due to the nature of the situation, and considering that you’re a loyal and highly valuable customer for our brand, Porsche has decided to resume the GT2 RS production in Germany, and your vehicle will be produced in April, with delivery scheduled for June.
We recommend that you contact your local Porsche Center for further information.”
They don't have to reinvent themselves every few years and when they do introduce a new product, it's amazeballs. Remember the Cayenne and Panamera doubters... shiett. Now the Macan.
03-16-2019, 07:34 PM
why the fuck are used 981 Caymans so expensive? Yes, last ones with a flat-6, but still.
about adding options...... You sure you browsed through all the option list?