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Where's typically the best place to look at for getting a car for cheaper in terms of geography? I understand that largely depends on the type of car but it seems that there are massive discounts to be had in the CA area that aren't available elsewhere. Is this specific to the luxury lines like Lexus and BMW or is it everything?
When I have bought convertibles, I have found the cheapest to buy dead of winter in cold climates. I bought our 2010 PRHT Miata in Maryland, and had it shipped. It was a lot cheaper than here.
When my wife bought the WRX, Colorado and WA was most expensive. So I got a dallas dealer to give me the lowest quote, which a LA dealer matched, so that was easy. As far as luxury brands, I usually shop the whole country, and see if the local dealer will match. For BMW, the cheapest used to be in Santa Barbara (guy was on forums for 19 years), he just left. So I found the 2nd cheapest guy, and he after being shopped all over the US< was truly the cheapest. Of course, after all that negotiation, wife changed her mind, and is ordering the Benz Cabriolet. After shopping everywhere, I found a dealer in Atlanta which was the cheapest in the country. $8,650 off MSRP for a C43 AMG built to order car.
I found, if you are flexible, willing to travel, and cast a huge net, you never know who gives the best deal. In our practice, two people bought new Cadillac ESV from a dealer in MT. He is offering $12,000 off MSRP, which our local dealers can't match.
When I have bought convertibles, I have found the cheapest to buy dead of winter in cold climates. I bought our 2010 PRHT Miata in Maryland, and had it shipped. It was a lot cheaper than here.
When my wife bought the WRX, Colorado and WA was most expensive. So I got a dallas dealer to give me the lowest quote, which a LA dealer matched, so that was easy. As far as luxury brands, I usually shop the whole country, and see if the local dealer will match. For BMW, the cheapest used to be in Santa Barbara (guy was on forums for 19 years), he just left. So I found the 2nd cheapest guy, and he after being shopped all over the US< was truly the cheapest. Of course, after all that negotiation, wife changed her mind, and is ordering the Benz Cabriolet. After shopping everywhere, I found a dealer in Atlanta which was the cheapest in the country. $8,650 off MSRP for a C43 AMG built to order car.
I found, if you are flexible, willing to travel, and cast a huge net, you never know who gives the best deal. In our practice, two people bought new Cadillac ESV from a dealer in MT. He is offering $12,000 off MSRP, which our local dealers can't match.
Awesome, thanks dude. Are you just hitting up every dealer in all the metro areas or how are you figuring out who to ping for quotes?
Awesome, thanks dude. Are you just hitting up every dealer in all the metro areas or how are you figuring out who to ping for quotes?
You are welcome.
Nah not every dealer.
I usually search inventory first. Then I know which dealer has tons of unsold glut. It also allows me to see what extra or port option most dealers saddle their cars with. Allows me to get rid of dealers that I don't want certain cars from. Lots of cars also allows me to see which dealer is getting good allocation and have some factory pull. If a dealer has ONE LC500, they thing its made out of gold, whereas here every dealer has 8 of them and they can't sell. So I usually target the whole country first. I look at inventory, then make a list of 20 dealers who I contact. Same email to all. See who will play ball. Get it down to 2 of the lowest amount, and then see who can beat each other. I use horseless carriage (if its an expensive car), I can get it home for about $1300. Most of time, I fly out, and drive it home. If its a car I don't care about, I use the $500-700 train or open transport shipping.
It is of course not a precise science. I got a 16 LC200 series for my dad from a dealer that literally got 2 allocation, in the boonies, and they couldn't even sell it, given their demographic. It broke all my rules, but for that particular car, I had to go to a small mom and pop place and the deal was phenomenal.
For Toyotas I ALWAYS as a rule stay away from SET/GST. They are the mob distributors and charge the most.
Where's typically the best place to look at for getting a car for cheaper in terms of geography? I understand that largely depends on the type of car but it seems that there are massive discounts to be had in the CA area that aren't available elsewhere. Is this specific to the luxury lines like Lexus and BMW or is it everything?
The cities have to most dealers and sold the most cars would usually have the best price because of the competitions (California)
But as 2012 said, you never know. There might be a dealer in the middle of nowhere will do some kind of insane blow out because there is not enough traffic.
I usually search inventory first. Then I know which dealer has tons of unsold glut. It also allows me to see what extra or port option most dealers saddle their cars with. Allows me to get rid of dealers that I don't want certain cars from. Lots of cars also allows me to see which dealer is getting good allocation and have some factory pull. If a dealer has ONE LC500, they thing its made out of gold, whereas here every dealer has 8 of them and they can't sell. So I usually target the whole country first. I look at inventory, then make a list of 20 dealers who I contact. Same email to all. See who will play ball. Get it down to 2 of the lowest amount, and then see who can beat each other. I use horseless carriage (if its an expensive car), I can get it home for about $1300. Most of time, I fly out, and drive it home. If its a car I don't care about, I use the $500-700 train or open transport shipping.
It is of course not a precise science. I got a 16 LC200 series for my dad from a dealer that literally got 2 allocation, in the boonies, and they couldn't even sell it, given their demographic. It broke all my rules, but for that particular car, I had to go to a small mom and pop place and the deal was phenomenal.
For Toyotas I ALWAYS as a rule stay away from SET/GST. They are the mob distributors and charge the most.
Also Edmund price paid forum and the specific car forum are good research sites for prices. You dont wanna get ripped off and you also dont want to offer unreasonable $s that just wastes everyone's time.
For Toyotas I ALWAYS as a rule stay away from SET/GST. They are the mob distributors and charge the most.
Your approach is almost exactly what I did for my last 2. Ended up buying a 4Runner from Colorado and having it shipped for a couple hundred using the dealer's shipper. Not only was it about the cheapest possible one in the country, but I also got to avoid GST, because as you mentioned, they are worse than receiving sodomy with a hot poker.
For my TSX, I found the cheapest in California but the local dealer matched and then beat it. But up until that point I was ready to buy and ship.
It's remarkable how good of a deal you can get if you don't need the interaction of haggling at a dealer. Some people like that, but I prefer doing some pre-work and then being done with no hassle. It's well worth the $500 - $800 to ship it.
After a lot of looking, I think my next car is going to be a B8.5 Allroad.
I've been looking to get a new car to replace my leased Passat. Since I sold the Mustang, I'm really not willing to compromise on my next car since it's the only one I'll have. From what I've seen at Audizine, the B8.5 Allroad is a pretty good and reliable car. They fixed all the oil consumption, the 8spd auto is pretty good, and overall it appears to be a solid choice even while there are the normal ridiculous German maintenance repairs to do.
They are pretty expensive though. I'm looking at a 2015-16 next summer and I can only guess they will be in the $32-35K range for a Premium Plus CPO.
Any regulars here have an Allroad? I know there's an Avant here (until it's replaced with a minivan) but I haven't seen much wagon content lately other than CTS-Vs.
It would probably be late 2019 before I could swing a B9 Allroad but if we could figure out how to swing one car for over a year, I'd consider doing it. The B9 is a huge step forward.
My E400 estate offer from dealer is now $5950 off MSRP. A bit more by DEC, and I can pull the trigger Tried to combine it with wife's car order this weekend, hoping to get a 2 car deal..and that is the best they offered
Went to the Emerald aisle today. I like to rent cars I haven't had the displeasure of driving before.
Tried a new Corolla, had to abort. Not anywhere near enough legroom for me to sit remotely comfortably.
Settled into a Chevy Cruze. What a car. It makes me think of freedom, American manufacturing, and is just like a BMW inside. Without te bow ties it would be hard to tell the difference. It's business in front with the stout 4 cylinder engine that feels like it could outrun a V, and party in the back with the swoopy good looks of a four door hatch like an Audi RS7, which I consider to be the Cruze's nearest competitor.
Went to the Emerald aisle today. I like to rent cars I haven't had the displeasure of driving before.
Tried a new Corolla, had to abort. Not anywhere near enough legroom for me to sit remotely comfortably.
Settled into a Chevy Cruze. What a car. It makes me think of freedom, American manufacturing, and is just like a BMW inside. Without te bow ties it would be hard to tell the difference. It's business in front with the stout 4 cylinder engine that feels like it could outrun a V, and party in the back with the swoopy good looks of a four door hatch like an Audi RS7, which I consider to be the Cruze's nearest competitor.
LOL. My mom has a new Corolla. It can be small if you're a tall dude, but the features weren't bad. Standard backup cam and HID lights are nice.
I should probably give a small review of the cars I've tried with my National EC membership. I'm on a work assignment in honolulu and have driven about 12 cars in the past 5 months or so. Just returned a BMW 430i over the weekend (was given a Z4 but switched it out to a 430i, they wanted extra money for a 740i). Currently my daily is a Audi Q3 (scored on a lucky evening at the airport location parked in the EC section...usually the Q3 is parked in the premier/upgrade section).
Definitely a great opportunity to try out various vehicles though. Camaro SS, 300C, Wrangler, Accord Sport, Yukon were some of the others.
locally great deals on panigale
buy no deals on scramblers
Thanks, doing a bit of looking & the local dealer knocked a gnat's ass off to get the OTD to an even number. Was just curious if there might be more there, or if accessories were more common to get into the deal than $$ off the MSRP.
Thanks, doing a bit of looking & the local dealer knocked a gnat's ass off to get the OTD to an even number. Was just curious if there might be more there, or if accessories were more common to get into the deal than $$ off the MSRP.
I have bought lots of bikes over the years. Only on my 07 GSX-R750 did I get accessories thrown in. I needed a new helmet, and a jacket, and we worked it into the deal. Personally, getting the $$$ knocked off is better, as dealers markup the accessories.
this is a 2010 Audi A4 Avant that is in like-new COSMETIC condition. It was purchased over my wife’s strong objection, as none of our four prior Audis has made it past 80,000 miles without suffering a complete and total meltdown. This one suffered an oil consumption meltdown at 65,000 and required a new set of pistons and rings – paid for by Audi! It now has 99,378 miles on it and a Blue Book trade value of $6,000.
The other day the check engine light came on. I correctly internet diagnosed a loose bypass valve on the turbocharger and was ready to write a $2,200 check to replace it. Not so fast said the Audi man! To get the light off it requires (1) a new turbo, (2) a new PCV valve, (3) a new cooling fan, (4) and some other new item at the back of the engine. On top of the typical A4 oil consumption and turbo failure issues, the Audi man says it has the third typical A4 issue – carbon valve build-up, which causes it to chug and spew vast amounts of smoke on startup periodically. Finally, it needs all new front end bushings. This is set to cost a grand total of about $6,000.
Yeah was getting sadder as I read it, for the owner
It's really fucked up because it's a textbook example of how a company made a bad product, knew it was bad, doubled down on it, and then finally fixed it and screwed a lot of people.
I haven't been to the Q5 board to see how bad they have it. I can only assume early 2.0T Q5s also have this issue. A5s as well, I would imagine. Perhaps even A6s (though I'm not sure of the timing of the 2.0T A6 release).
If I had one of those cars, I'd be absolutely furious at Audi. I had a 2005 S4 and it was a great car. I loved it and wish I had kept it.
But from what that guy and others like him went through, I'd never give that company another dollar again.
Yeah...... I can see people thinking exactly as you are .
I know when I am shopping for my new wagon, I didn't even step foot in the Audi dealer. As my wife is looking for a 4 seater vert, she didn't even want to go to A5/S5 (which I wanted her to look at, since she puts lot less miles on her cars than me)
After a lot of looking, I think my next car is going to be a B8.5 Allroad.
I've been looking to get a new car to replace my leased Passat. Since I sold the Mustang, I'm really not willing to compromise on my next car since it's the only one I'll have. From what I've seen at Audizine, the B8.5 Allroad is a pretty good and reliable car. They fixed all the oil consumption, the 8spd auto is pretty good, and overall it appears to be a solid choice even while there are the normal ridiculous German maintenance repairs to do.
They are pretty expensive though. I'm looking at a 2015-16 next summer and I can only guess they will be in the $32-35K range for a Premium Plus CPO.
Any regulars here have an Allroad? I know there's an Avant here (until it's replaced with a minivan) but I haven't seen much wagon content lately other than CTS-Vs.
I told you! I love my parents' Allroad and they have not had a single issue in the 60k+ miles on it. Also, they have the Moonlight Blue exterior. It really is a great car.
10-25-2017, 03:12 PM
i refuse to take the type of depreciation on a 80k car... it is scary...
Lowered Allroad w/ body color cladding.
