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Dodge Charger R/T 5.7 L , Mustang GT Premium 5.0, or Wait for 2021 Acura TLX?

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Old 04-07-2020, 01:05 PM
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Dodge Charger R/T 5.7 L , Mustang GT Premium 5.0, or Wait for 2021 Acura TLX?

My 2008 TL-S is nearing the end. 190,000 miles, and expensive repairs every few months. Eyeing the Charger 5.7 R/T, Mustang GT Premium, or trying to have the patience (if my car lasts) to wait it out for the 2021 Acura TLX. Like to see comments, and points. Thanks.
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Mustang of the offered choices.

Stinger GT2 for an off-poll option.
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What are your requirements for a next car?
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Fast car and comfortable with leather seats.
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My vote goes towards the Mustang.

If you're looking for a 4 door .. 2013-2018 S4.

Can't really beat the reliability & aftermarket unless you spending F80+ M3 money.

Side thought .. I would never hold out for Acura making a performance car on time that meets expectations unless you're shopping for an NSX.
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I really want to say Acura but the TL has been disappointing since the 3G IMO
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How often do you use the back seat?
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Why not the Scat Pack with the 6.4L SRT Hemi? It's only an extra $4K (less with incentives) for an extra 115HP and Brembos. With the whole $10/HP factory cash incentive Dodge is offering, that $4K suddenly drops to less than $3K given the extra power the Scat Pack offers.

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If those are the choices I'd say get a Mustang but get one that's ever so slightly used. They depreciate like crazy unless you're into GT350 territory.
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Originally Posted by fiatlux
Why not the Scat Pack with the 6.4L SRT Hemi? It's only an extra $4K (less with incentives) for an extra 115HP and Brembos. With the whole $10/HP factory cash incentive Dodge is offering, that $4K suddenly drops to less than $3K given the extra power the Scat Pack offers.
This is the most Dodge thing I've ever heard.
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I can relate a bit as I also had an Acura sedan and was about to move to a '19 5.0 Premium. I believe it's confirmed that the new Type S will have a 3.5T or 3.5TT and the concept does look very good but I wanted a coupe so didn't have interest in a sedan and didn't want to wait till 2021/2022. I ended up in a TTS (https://acurazine.com/forums/car-tal...en-tts-982026/). I liked the 5.0 and was close to buying but wasn't sold on the build quality and the size of the car. I'd take a look at the TTS or if you need something bigger, a Golf R/S3. I just did Stage 2 but on Stage 1 the previous owner draggy'd a 3.5 0-60 and 11.8 1/4 time. I've tracked the car at MSR houston and did some very competitive lap times and it's very easy to manage with the size/weight. B9 S4s are also putting out 550tq on E85 with the new APR tunes and are starting to depreciate into the low 40s. My vote is for something European, but out of the 3 you listed I would do the 5.0.

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Out of curiosity I was checking and my local Ford dealer has a leftover 5.0 Premium for $8k off. There's a ton of Bullits listed for $43k. I'd definitely do a 2019 if you do a Mustang.
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Mustang of the 3 choices.

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This is the most Dodge thing I've ever heard.
After discounts, you can get almost 500hp for $35K. Can't get more MOPAR than that. The car sounds glorious, and it's eminently comfortable. Great highway cruiser, it's massive, and very quick. Mid-12s in a car that weighs over two tons and has the aerodynamics of brick.
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After discounts, you can get almost 500hp for $35K. Can't get more MOPAR than that. The car sounds glorious, and it's eminently comfortable. Great highway cruiser, it's massive, and very quick. Mid-12s in a car that weighs over two tons and has the aerodynamics of brick.
They also pack a lot of tech and the U-connect system is one of the best in the industry. Plus FCA is offering 0% right now.
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You could make a trip to Augusta, GA and pick up a used Audi S4. Sporty and good looking car to boot.

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They also pack a lot of tech and the U-connect system is one of the best in the industry. Plus FCA is offering 0% right now.
Insane. Dunno what models it applies to, but I saw Jeep and Dodge offering 0% for 84 months plus no payments for the first 90 days.

My brother loves his Charger R/T. My only gripe with the car is the weird texture they use on the dash panel. I liked driving it, felt much lighter than I imagined it would.
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How often do you use the back seat?
I have 2 kids, they live with their mom, but i see them once during the week and on different weekends. This is when i use the backseat, just for my kids. They have booster seats. Or if we travel , or drive to a basketball game....
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I have 2 kids, they live with their mom, but i see them once during the week and on different weekends. This is when i use the backseat, just for my kids. They have booster seats. Or if we travel , or drive to a basketball game....
Having been through that with a small(ish) 2-door coupe (with more space than the Mustang), I would strongly recommend a 4-door car. I will now vote for the Charger.
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Originally Posted by horseshoez
Having been through that with a small(ish) 2-door coupe (with more space than the Mustang), I would strongly recommend a 4-door car. I will now vote for the Charger.
This.

Maybe expand your search too, a used Chevy SS is also a great car and can be had with manual.
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I say this as a fan of the TLX concept....

Buy a Charger of the choices on your list. Enjoy V8 torque while you are awaiting the gremlins to be killed in the new TLX.

Also, Stinger GT should be on your radar even though it’s not on your list above. In GT2 format, it’s a fast, comfortable, luxurious car. I almost bought one recently, but ended up in a manual Accord 2.0t instead. Shocked the shit out of myself with the choice, but it’s been a good ride.
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I also have added the Camaro SS to the list. I love the new TLX, but cannot afford it new. I have to buy a used car , GT 5.0 Mustang, Dodge Charger, or Camaro SS. Will be 2018 or 2019 used.
No Visibility and no back seat in Camaro SS, but I still want to test drive....
Mustang GT has beautiful coyote engine, but I wish for a better interior and too many Mustangs on the road...
Dodge Charger too big a car....

Camaro SS, beautiful car, and ride, manual transmission...
Mustang GT, beautiful engine and sound, manual transmission...
Dodge Charger, fast as lightning, sounds great, very comfortable drive and suspension....automatic only
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Go test drive them. only you will be able to make the decision between those three cars...

for me; I'd pick a '15 Mustang GT. 6MT with the performance pack!
the Camaro SS 1LE would be my second pick...
and I would settle for the Dodge, if I couldnt get the Mustang or Camaro

Have you thought about the Malibu, I mean the Chevy SS? Comes in 6MT and has 4 doors.
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Can you squeeze a GT350 into your budget, before the production-end drives values upward?
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I still say Charger. It's really not too big.
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Neighbor has a mid-to-higher trim 300 in their driveway (dealer demo) in a dark-ish orange. Not a bad looking car, though I'd opt for the Charger over the 300.
Maybe wider than the Stinger, but possibly shorter in overall length.

Edit: Stinger is ~10" shorter in length.
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I have already test driven the 5.0 mustang and even test drove the 5.0 bullit (which I love!) but it is expensive. I also test drove the Charger 5.7 hemi, and the Scat Pack too! The Scat Pack is very fun to drive and sounds great. I still need to test drive the Camaro SS. I have it down to these 3, but always split. One thing I can say I would really enjoy staying with a manual transmission, so that would rule out the Charger.....
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Originally Posted by StealthTL-S
I also have added the Camaro SS to the list. I love the new TLX, but cannot afford it new. I have to buy a used car , GT 5.0 Mustang, Dodge Charger, or Camaro SS. Will be 2018 or 2019 used.
No Visibility and no back seat in Camaro SS, but I still want to test drive....
Mustang GT has beautiful coyote engine, but I wish for a better interior and too many Mustangs on the road...
Dodge Charger too big a car....

Camaro SS, beautiful car, and ride, manual transmission...
Mustang GT, beautiful engine and sound, manual transmission...
Dodge Charger, fast as lightning, sounds great, very comfortable drive and suspension....automatic only
If these are literally your only choices, I'd go with the Mustang IMO. Go drive these and see what you really like, they're all pretty different from one another. Also, why not Challenger which can be had in manual?
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I have already test driven the 5.0 mustang and even test drove the 5.0 bullit (which I love!) but it is expensive. I also test drove the Charger 5.7 hemi, and the Scat Pack too! The Scat Pack is very fun to drive and sounds great. I still need to test drive the Camaro SS. I have it down to these 3, but always split. One thing I can say I would really enjoy staying with a manual transmission, so that would rule out the Charger.....
Its no stick, but go drive again and use the paddles. That zf8 is the best auto on the market.
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If these are literally your only choices, I'd go with the Mustang IMO. Go drive these and see what you really like, they're all pretty different from one another. Also, why not Challenger which can be had in manual?
True, Challenger comes in stick and has an extremely usable rear seat.
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If these are literally your only choices, I'd go with the Mustang IMO. Go drive these and see what you really like, they're all pretty different from one another. Also, why not Challenger which can be had in manual?
I like that man, the challenger is a sweet ride, but I struggle with the Challenger being so big, it is a boat!
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I like that man, the challenger is a sweet ride, but I struggle with the Challenger being so big, it is a boat!
Eh, you might like it. Give it a go, not like you're obligated to buy it.
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The Challenger is big but that's what makes the ride quality so much better than the Mustang or Camaro. It's a muscle car while the other two are sports cars, or pony cars if you want to go old school.
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The reviews so far of the 4 banger are pretty meh. The Type S doesn't seem to be as exciting as we were expecting it to be either. Honestly the new Stinger will make more sense than this in almost every aspect. The 2021 G70 will be both more powerful and more luxurious than the TLX.

Off late the disconnect between Honda & Acura is amusing, The Accord has a better head unit and it the engine could be tuned to get same output as FWD TLX, makes no sense to pay extra except just for the Badge the worth of which also is debatable.
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So, I agree now, the new TLX is beautiful, but the engine is not quite what I want, after reading the reviews and test drives. I would wait for the Type S, but will not be able to afford anything brand new, so I can forget about that TLX, unfortunately. I have now decided the camaro is a fantastic engine and car, but the seat is too low for me, and the visibility is horrible, and there is no back seat at all. So, I'm down to the Mustang GT premium and the Charger R/T Hemi. Consumer Reports rates them about even - both very good ratings and test drives. I am very split with the two. I like leather seats (mustang), and I like manual trans (mustang). But, I like the comfortable ride of the Charger. I really want the car to be a daily driver, and they both seem good and practical for that. Both have very nice engines, that are powerful and fast. The mustang may be more nimble and is a bit lighter than the Charger. I don't like to be like everybody else, and I see plenty of mustang 5.0's and Charger on the road. I will look for a 2018-2019 Charger or Mustang soon, my 08 TL-S is with 200,000 miles, and is costing me too much money monthly for repairs.
Gas mileage is nearly identical in the charger 5.7 and mustang GT. There is more interior room in the Charger, but both seem to just have mediocre interiors, nothing like the TL or TLX. I have test drove both, and liked both.....
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costing too much in repairs is a copout excuse.

at most a few grand every year to maintain a vehicle.
while the used cars you're looking at is $27-32k PLUS maintenance.

seems like buying a $32k used car is the more expensive thing to do.
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costing too much in repairs is a copout excuse.

at most a few grand every year to maintain a vehicle.
while the used cars you're looking at is $27-32k PLUS maintenance.

seems like buying a $32k used car is the more expensive thing to do.
LOL, yeah, definitely a cop-out. I'm three and a half years into ownership of my 2006 TL and have spent roughly $8,000 on all types of maintenance (i.e. normal maintenance like oil changes, tires, and brakes, unscheduled maintenance like motor mounts and rear main oil seal, and "when" not "if" maintenance like the clutch). Over that same period of time my wife has spent roughly $15,000 in payments plus another $2,000 in maintenance on her Mazda3 (which was paid off last month). Long story short, if a car is still in good condition from a body and interior perspective, and you still enjoy driving it, then maintaining it is by far the better financial decision versus buying a new car. Said another way, if you really want a new car, then get a new car, but saying an old car costs too much to maintain is a straw-man argument.
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LOL, yeah, definitely a cop-out. I'm three and a half years into ownership of my 2006 TL and have spent roughly $8,000 on all types of maintenance (i.e. normal maintenance like oil changes, tires, and brakes, unscheduled maintenance like motor mounts and rear main oil seal, and "when" not "if" maintenance like the clutch). Over that same period of time my wife has spent roughly $15,000 in payments plus another $2,000 in maintenance on her Mazda3 (which was paid off last month). Long story short, if a car is still in good condition from a body and interior perspective, and you still enjoy driving it, then maintaining it is by far the better financial decision versus buying a new car. Said another way, if you really want a new car, then get a new car, but saying an old car costs too much to maintain is a straw-man argument.
it’s no cop out my car is now a fire hazard the power steering line and Pat rack has been giving me trouble for years smoke from the engine burning I need a new power steering line with fluid leaking nevertheless I’m tired of this car because I’m without a car for days it’s not just the money it’s the inconvenience of being without a car having to drive my wife’s car so I’m either getting the dodge charger 5.7 hemi and charcoal metallic gray or the mustang 50 premium GT and silver 2018 2019.....


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