View Poll Results: do leave your car running while pumping gas?
yes
10
7.63%
no
121
92.37%
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do you leave your car running while pumping gas?
09-12-2010, 05:09 PM
#42
Again, to those who think it's so bad, name something that is so wrong if you're standing there and have the e-brake set. The car is not going to magically pop into gear or out of park and overpower the e-brake and take off down the street. It's not going to start shooting sparks out of the exhaust. At the rear of the car the exhaust is nowhere near the ignition temperature of gasoline vapors; it won't even burn your hand.
09-12-2010, 05:18 PM
#43
Pretty much, hahah. No, I'm kidding, its actually a pretty good school, and I just make a lot mistakes when it comes to typing in general.
Last I checked, I don't have to proofread my work on forums, which is always a plus compared to essays.
&Don't worry about it, because I didn't really take offensive to your comment.
Last I checked, I don't have to proofread my work on forums, which is always a plus compared to essays.
&Don't worry about it, because I didn't really take offensive to your comment.
09-12-2010, 05:27 PM
#44
Last edited by thelastaspec; 09-12-2010 at 05:29 PM.
09-12-2010, 05:34 PM
#45
^lmfao ... i love how the start sprayin gasoline all over the place, i knew it was going to be bad after that
anyway, no i just turn my car off, but thats because my dad told me if i dont when i was a kid that the car would explode, and it scared me to the point that if i see someone else doing it, makes me antsy
anyway, no i just turn my car off, but thats because my dad told me if i dont when i was a kid that the car would explode, and it scared me to the point that if i see someone else doing it, makes me antsy
09-12-2010, 05:34 PM
#46
Suzuka Master
No point of putting a gas cap there lolOhh and I've always been under the assumption that filling up the gas with the car one means...
09-12-2010, 05:38 PM
#47
forces you to stay there and not pay or whatever.
i go to a full serve station but they let me pump it myself.
09-12-2010, 06:19 PM
#49
Team Owner
the first problem is the fuel system depends on a sealed fuel tank
example:
If you drive off with the cap removed- or even less than tight,,the 3 clicks it says to right on the cap...
a CEL comes on!
now its going to take a few days of driving for the car to decide that all is well and clear the light
the 2nd problem is slight potential of fire,,
thats really more an issue if you answer your cell phone after walking around the car in nylon pants or jacket-generating a giant static charge on yourself, then fail to ground yourself to the pump (by touching the unpainted metal of the pump and it takes any charge off you) and grab the also charged pump nozzle (flowing fuel creates a static charge)
if you were electrically HOT- and fuel vapors are present,, and an electrical impulse goes thru the air = KABOOM--you have seen it on tv shows, even mythbusters got it to explode~ it happens
So, for your cars happiness, and the safety of those around you--
please turn the car OFF- in park- park brake set ON
manual trans use 1 or R
example:
If you drive off with the cap removed- or even less than tight,,the 3 clicks it says to right on the cap...
a CEL comes on!
now its going to take a few days of driving for the car to decide that all is well and clear the light
the 2nd problem is slight potential of fire,,
thats really more an issue if you answer your cell phone after walking around the car in nylon pants or jacket-generating a giant static charge on yourself, then fail to ground yourself to the pump (by touching the unpainted metal of the pump and it takes any charge off you) and grab the also charged pump nozzle (flowing fuel creates a static charge)
if you were electrically HOT- and fuel vapors are present,, and an electrical impulse goes thru the air = KABOOM--you have seen it on tv shows, even mythbusters got it to explode~ it happens
So, for your cars happiness, and the safety of those around you--
please turn the car OFF- in park- park brake set ON
manual trans use 1 or R
Again, I've been doing this since Dec '05 in my TL and this car has never once had a CEL come on.
People keep saying it's crazy to keep it running but no one can back up why it's dangerous. I can see why they put the law in place, it makes sense. You don't want the average crack head to leave the car runing with the gas pumping and walk away for several minutes without the brake set. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with leaving the car running while you pump the gas standing there while the AC is keeping the interior cool and the e-brake set.
Please explain how it's going to magically explode because the engine is running.
09-12-2010, 06:31 PM
#50
Team Owner
I once saw an old, very old lady driving down the highway with the nozzle and about 6' of hose still in the car. It was hysterical. She obviously did not know it was there.
09-12-2010, 08:58 PM
#52
Fahrvergnügen'd
Static electricity is static electricity. It makes no difference if the car is on or running. None whatsoever.
Again, I've been doing this since Dec '05 in my TL and this car has never once had a CEL come on.
I guess you missed post #35 above.
People keep saying it's crazy to keep it running but no one can back up why it's dangerous. I can see why they put the law in place, it makes sense. You don't want the average crack head to leave the car runing with the gas pumping and walk away for several minutes without the brake set. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with leaving the car running while you pump the gas standing there while the AC is keeping the interior cool and the e-brake set.
Please explain how it's going to magically explode because the engine is running.
Again, I've been doing this since Dec '05 in my TL and this car has never once had a CEL come on.
I guess you missed post #35 above.
People keep saying it's crazy to keep it running but no one can back up why it's dangerous. I can see why they put the law in place, it makes sense. You don't want the average crack head to leave the car runing with the gas pumping and walk away for several minutes without the brake set. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with leaving the car running while you pump the gas standing there while the AC is keeping the interior cool and the e-brake set.
Please explain how it's going to magically explode because the engine is running.
It's illegal but even more, it's just being lazy.
09-12-2010, 09:09 PM
#53
Team Owner
Winter- Keep the heater running.
Summer- Keep the AC running.
I do this more when there are passengers in the car that would like to stay comfortable.
It has nothing to do with lazy but that's a nice assumption.
Aside from any temperature extremes I turn it off.
Explain to me what it hurts to leave it running.
09-12-2010, 09:19 PM
#54
I guess you missed post #35 above.
People keep saying it's crazy to keep it running but no one can back up why it's dangerous. I can see why they put the law in place, it makes sense. You don't want the average crack head to leave the car runing with the gas pumping and walk away for several minutes without the brake set. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with leaving the car running while you pump the gas standing there while the AC is keeping the interior cool and the e-brake set.
Please explain how it's going to magically explode because the engine is running.
And again, post #22 explained it.
09-12-2010, 10:41 PM
#55
Safety Car
I purchase gasoline every weekday (5 times per week). As part of my TL Diet, I purchase just enough fuel for a single day commute. My engine is never turned-off while fueling. Been doing this for 5 years.
I can think of one huge disadvantage. It is a known issue. THEFT. Especially during winter when someone (thieve) can see the water vapor (fog) coming from the tailpipes. It is obvious that the engine is running unattended. Golden opportunity for thieves to steal your car.
I keep a keen eye while I am fueling mine.
5 days per week x 50 weeks per year x 5 years = 1250 times I have pumped fuel WITH engine running
I can think of one huge disadvantage. It is a known issue. THEFT. Especially during winter when someone (thieve) can see the water vapor (fog) coming from the tailpipes. It is obvious that the engine is running unattended. Golden opportunity for thieves to steal your car.
I keep a keen eye while I am fueling mine.
5 days per week x 50 weeks per year x 5 years = 1250 times I have pumped fuel WITH engine running
Last edited by Inaccurate; 09-12-2010 at 10:49 PM.
09-12-2010, 10:52 PM
#56
Team Owner
the first problem is the fuel system depends on a sealed fuel tank
example:
If you drive off with the cap removed- or even less than tight,,the 3 clicks it says to right on the cap...
a CEL comes on!
now its going to take a few days of driving for the car to decide that all is well and clear the light
the 2nd problem is slight potential of fire,,
thats really more an issue if you answer your cell phone after walking around the car in nylon pants or jacket-generating a giant static charge on yourself, then fail to ground yourself to the pump (by touching the unpainted metal of the pump and it takes any charge off you) and grab the also charged pump nozzle (flowing fuel creates a static charge)
if you were electrically HOT- and fuel vapors are present,, and an electrical impulse goes thru the air = KABOOM--you have seen it on tv shows, even mythbusters got it to explode~ it happens
So, for your cars happiness, and the safety of those around you--
please turn the car OFF- in park- park brake set ON
manual trans use 1 or R
example:
If you drive off with the cap removed- or even less than tight,,the 3 clicks it says to right on the cap...
a CEL comes on!
now its going to take a few days of driving for the car to decide that all is well and clear the light
the 2nd problem is slight potential of fire,,
thats really more an issue if you answer your cell phone after walking around the car in nylon pants or jacket-generating a giant static charge on yourself, then fail to ground yourself to the pump (by touching the unpainted metal of the pump and it takes any charge off you) and grab the also charged pump nozzle (flowing fuel creates a static charge)
if you were electrically HOT- and fuel vapors are present,, and an electrical impulse goes thru the air = KABOOM--you have seen it on tv shows, even mythbusters got it to explode~ it happens
So, for your cars happiness, and the safety of those around you--
please turn the car OFF- in park- park brake set ON
manual trans use 1 or R
This is nothing against 01tl4tl, just trying to clarify a very simple matter.
09-12-2010, 10:58 PM
#57
Team Owner
I purchase gasoline every weekday (5 times per week). As part of my TL Diet, I purchase just enough fuel for a single day commute. My engine is never turned-off while fueling. Been doing this for 5 years.
I can think of one huge disadvantage. It is a known issue. THEFT. Especially during winter when someone (thieve) can see the water vapor (fog) coming from the tailpipes. It is obvious that the engine is running unattended. Golden opportunity for thieves to steal your car.
I keep a keen eye while I am fueling mine.
5 days per week x 50 weeks per year x 5 years = 1250 times I have pumped fuel WITH engine running
I can think of one huge disadvantage. It is a known issue. THEFT. Especially during winter when someone (thieve) can see the water vapor (fog) coming from the tailpipes. It is obvious that the engine is running unattended. Golden opportunity for thieves to steal your car.
I keep a keen eye while I am fueling mine.
5 days per week x 50 weeks per year x 5 years = 1250 times I have pumped fuel WITH engine running
Certain circumstances call for shutting the car off. I got lost in Watts and was past 0 miles to empty and had no choice but to stop for fuel. I shut the car off that time. Some of the "characters" looked like they may be willing to take a shot at getting the car.
09-12-2010, 11:13 PM
#59
I shoot people
I purchase gasoline every weekday (5 times per week). As part of my TL Diet, I purchase just enough fuel for a single day commute. My engine is never turned-off while fueling. Been doing this for 5 years.
I can think of one huge disadvantage. It is a known issue. THEFT. Especially during winter when someone (thieve) can see the water vapor (fog) coming from the tailpipes. It is obvious that the engine is running unattended. Golden opportunity for thieves to steal your car.
I keep a keen eye while I am fueling mine.
5 days per week x 50 weeks per year x 5 years = 1250 times I have pumped fuel WITH engine running
I can think of one huge disadvantage. It is a known issue. THEFT. Especially during winter when someone (thieve) can see the water vapor (fog) coming from the tailpipes. It is obvious that the engine is running unattended. Golden opportunity for thieves to steal your car.
I keep a keen eye while I am fueling mine.
5 days per week x 50 weeks per year x 5 years = 1250 times I have pumped fuel WITH engine running
that's like saying... instead of using 4 squares of toilet paper per ass wipe, I'll start using 3 from now on, and since I take a dump at least twice a day... and I average 3 wipes per dump, 365x6=2,190 squares which equals xxxxx amount of rolls of toilet paper over 5 years...
except, the difference is... it's NOT against the law for me to use less toilet paper
09-12-2010, 11:16 PM
#60
Team Owner
why would you buy gas just enough for a day's commute? And you're factoring something over 5 years? lol oh please...
that's like saying... instead of using 4 squares of toilet paper per ass wipe, I'll start using 3 from now on, and since I take a dump at least twice a day... and I average 3 wipes per dump, 365x6=2,190 squares which equals xxxxx amount of rolls of toilet paper over 5 years...
except, the difference is... it's NOT against the law for me to use less toilet paper
that's like saying... instead of using 4 squares of toilet paper per ass wipe, I'll start using 3 from now on, and since I take a dump at least twice a day... and I average 3 wipes per dump, 365x6=2,190 squares which equals xxxxx amount of rolls of toilet paper over 5 years...
except, the difference is... it's NOT against the law for me to use less toilet paper
09-12-2010, 11:18 PM
#61
I shoot people
because a 2,700 lbs TL with less gas in the tank will beat more cars off the line? 
09-12-2010, 11:27 PM
#62
Team Owner
09-12-2010, 11:53 PM
#63
So you don't get the CEL...big whoop. that's anecdotal evidence, meanwhile facts are being explained to you and you are disregarding it.
Re-read #22 again - that is why you should not leave your car running. There's your answer.
09-13-2010, 12:15 AM
#64
I don't. It's not about whether or not it's a definite risk, but more to minimize the risk.
I use a tremendous amount of fuel for my business, and throughout the years have seen either a pump or a nozzle shut-off problem where gasoline has been spilled. Anything to minimize a risk is, at least to me, using proper judgment. Most of my vehicles are fueled by personally owned storage tanks, and I certainly wouldn't want to risk fire or explosion.
Incidentally, the very rare instance I have fueled while leaving the vehicle running, usually in -35 degree weather, some of my vehicles have thrown a code as the computer has incorrectly identified the fumes as a problem with the emissions. In fact my Ford trucks will not reset the fuel gauge until the ignition has been turned off if they have been refueled while running.
Terry
I use a tremendous amount of fuel for my business, and throughout the years have seen either a pump or a nozzle shut-off problem where gasoline has been spilled. Anything to minimize a risk is, at least to me, using proper judgment. Most of my vehicles are fueled by personally owned storage tanks, and I certainly wouldn't want to risk fire or explosion.
Incidentally, the very rare instance I have fueled while leaving the vehicle running, usually in -35 degree weather, some of my vehicles have thrown a code as the computer has incorrectly identified the fumes as a problem with the emissions. In fact my Ford trucks will not reset the fuel gauge until the ignition has been turned off if they have been refueled while running.
Terry
Last edited by teranfon; 09-13-2010 at 12:22 AM.
09-13-2010, 02:42 AM
#65
Even if you get a CEL or Message, it'll just go away after a drive cycle or less.
I don't see anything wrong with it but I'd rather not do it.
09-13-2010, 04:22 AM
#66
Drifting
I think the biggest disadvantage is everyone else at the pump thinking you're a complete asshole for breaking the law, possibly creating a dangerous situation and wasting gas using gas while getting gas.
To go back to bathroom analogies, that's like taking a dump while eating a sandwich.
Not to mention the certain person that not only leaves the car running while pumping but also gets gas everyday. That's like 5min. x 0 mpg x 7 days a week x 52 weeks a year= 0.... to save weight... to save gas.
In all seriousness I just think it's a waste of gas period. Getting the proper air/fuel ratio for an explosion is tough, but than again 7 x 52 x yrs fueling while running is a good way to test the explosion question through pure statical probability.
and lmao at zoolander, I didn't even need to watch the clip to bust out laughing.
To go back to bathroom analogies, that's like taking a dump while eating a sandwich.
Not to mention the certain person that not only leaves the car running while pumping but also gets gas everyday. That's like 5min. x 0 mpg x 7 days a week x 52 weeks a year= 0.... to save weight... to save gas.
In all seriousness I just think it's a waste of gas period. Getting the proper air/fuel ratio for an explosion is tough, but than again 7 x 52 x yrs fueling while running is a good way to test the explosion question through pure statical probability.
and lmao at zoolander, I didn't even need to watch the clip to bust out laughing.
09-13-2010, 07:03 AM
#67
Team Owner
The simple fact is, you're (for whatever reason) so against turning off the car during fill ups. you want to know the reasons against it, it's been explained to you, and you go off on another tangent to try to refute it.
So you don't get the CEL...big whoop. that's anecdotal evidence, meanwhile facts are being explained to you and you are disregarding it.
Re-read #22 again - that is why you should not leave your car running. There's your answer.
So you don't get the CEL...big whoop. that's anecdotal evidence, meanwhile facts are being explained to you and you are disregarding it.
Re-read #22 again - that is why you should not leave your car running. There's your answer.
09-13-2010, 07:06 AM
#68
Team Owner
I think the biggest disadvantage is everyone else at the pump thinking you're a complete asshole for breaking the law, possibly creating a dangerous situation and wasting gas using gas while getting gas.
To go back to bathroom analogies, that's like taking a dump while eating a sandwich.
Not to mention the certain person that not only leaves the car running while pumping but also gets gas everyday. That's like 5min. x 0 mpg x 7 days a week x 52 weeks a year= 0.... to save weight... to save gas.
In all seriousness I just think it's a waste of gas period. Getting the proper air/fuel ratio for an explosion is tough, but than again 7 x 52 x yrs fueling while running is a good way to test the explosion question through pure statical probability.
and lmao at zoolander, I didn't even need to watch the clip to bust out laughing.
To go back to bathroom analogies, that's like taking a dump while eating a sandwich.
Not to mention the certain person that not only leaves the car running while pumping but also gets gas everyday. That's like 5min. x 0 mpg x 7 days a week x 52 weeks a year= 0.... to save weight... to save gas.
In all seriousness I just think it's a waste of gas period. Getting the proper air/fuel ratio for an explosion is tough, but than again 7 x 52 x yrs fueling while running is a good way to test the explosion question through pure statical probability.
and lmao at zoolander, I didn't even need to watch the clip to bust out laughing.
Most will never know the car is running.I figured the two drops of gasoline wasted during the 5 minute fillup would be brought up eventually. Unless you shut your engine off at every stop light don't bother with this argument.
Again, what is this "potentially dangerous situation" you're talking about? Someone explain how the engine running is going to create an explosion.
09-13-2010, 07:13 AM
#69
That's a terrible argument. Ok, I'll start turning my car off so I don't get this imaginary CEL that has never happened in 5 years. You keep saying "refer to post 22". I've stated why it's meaningless yet you just keep saying the same thing. Use your own words here and explain it yourself. The "facts" are I've been doing it for 5 years, no CEL.
this is pretty much the extent of what you've been asking:
-You: tell me what's so bad about leaving the car on
-post #22 tells you
-You: well I've been doing it for 5 yrs and nothing like that's happened to me, so tell me why I shouldn't do this.
-again post #22 tells you
-You: well it still doesn't apply to me, so tell me why I shouldn't leave the car running.
09-13-2010, 07:16 AM
#70
the first problem is the fuel system depends on a sealed fuel tank
example:
If you drive off with the cap removed- or even less than tight,,the 3 clicks it says to right on the cap...
a CEL comes on!
now its going to take a few days of driving for the car to decide that all is well and clear the light
the 2nd problem is slight potential of fire,,
thats really more an issue if you answer your cell phone after walking around the car in nylon pants or jacket-generating a giant static charge on yourself, then fail to ground yourself to the pump (by touching the unpainted metal of the pump and it takes any charge off you) and grab the also charged pump nozzle (flowing fuel creates a static charge)
if you were electrically HOT- and fuel vapors are present,, and an electrical impulse goes thru the air = KABOOM--you have seen it on tv shows, even mythbusters got it to explode~ it happens
So, for your cars happiness, and the safety of those around you--
please turn the car OFF- in park- park brake set ON
manual trans use 1 or R
example:
If you drive off with the cap removed- or even less than tight,,the 3 clicks it says to right on the cap...
a CEL comes on!
now its going to take a few days of driving for the car to decide that all is well and clear the light
the 2nd problem is slight potential of fire,,
thats really more an issue if you answer your cell phone after walking around the car in nylon pants or jacket-generating a giant static charge on yourself, then fail to ground yourself to the pump (by touching the unpainted metal of the pump and it takes any charge off you) and grab the also charged pump nozzle (flowing fuel creates a static charge)
if you were electrically HOT- and fuel vapors are present,, and an electrical impulse goes thru the air = KABOOM--you have seen it on tv shows, even mythbusters got it to explode~ it happens
So, for your cars happiness, and the safety of those around you--
please turn the car OFF- in park- park brake set ON
manual trans use 1 or R
09-13-2010, 08:27 AM
#71
Team Owner
That's static fucking electricity. It makes no difference if the car is running or it is off. It's also talking about cell phone use. The only part of his post that had to do with the engine running was the CEL coming on.
09-13-2010, 10:21 AM
#72
That's what you've been running your mouth about? I've addressed it several times, you just don't read.
That's static fucking electricity. It makes no difference if the car is running or it is off. It's also talking about cell phone use. The only part of his post that had to do with the engine running was the CEL coming on.
That's static fucking electricity. It makes no difference if the car is running or it is off. It's also talking about cell phone use. The only part of his post that had to do with the engine running was the CEL coming on.
Everything that was mentioned has everything to do with the engine running.
09-13-2010, 10:54 AM
#73
Fahrvergnügen'd
Bottom line here is the guys that are doing this, I hope you get a ticket. And for those of you living in California, that ticket is probably going to be a bazillion dollars and you're probably going to get your car impounded.
09-13-2010, 11:05 AM
#74
Senior Moderator
Um, heck no.
09-13-2010, 11:11 AM
#75
Senior Moderator
Okay, knock off the name-calling and let's keep it civil...
09-13-2010, 02:53 PM
#76
Needs more Lemon Pledge
So THIS is where all the stupid went lately...
09-13-2010, 03:07 PM
#77
I shoot people
09-13-2010, 03:20 PM
#78
Senior Moderator
^ 
09-13-2010, 03:42 PM
#79
Needs more Lemon Pledge
Wait... From the back is no good? Even for guys?
09-13-2010, 05:16 PM
#80
Team Owner
You wish bad things on people yet you probably don't have a reason why.