CLtotheTL32

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Damn you've gotten uglier than I remember.

JS + XES

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Congratsssssss! Car looks lovely in white!!!!

How did you like your MK7 GTi? I'm thinking of getting one for our second car next to Sienna. I don't really like GTi but there's not many automatic car that's decently practical and fun. I want wifey to drive around too sometimes. Looking to get a 17 Sport trim used for like $20K. If not, I can buy my friends CTR for $33k but his is red. Not in a hurry so trying to see what's really good.

CCColtsicehockey

Glad your doing well and glad to see you back man. Been a long long time. Now we need to draw you down this way for a visit again.

New R is beautiful. That paint is amazing.

civicdrivr

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I actually test drove a C6 Grand Sport two years ago. I loved the color combo, and it had the sports seats. I love the way they look, but...I wasn't a fan of the way they drove. I felt like I was sitting on the car, not in it, if that makes sense. The Cayman S felt soooo much better and much more accessible.

Love you too bud!

If your friends Type R is relatively low mileage and in good shape, I'd snatch that up at $33k. If red isn't your cup of tea though, I'd seriously look at the GTI. I highly suggest the Sport trim (or an older Performance Pack car, so you have the limited slip). They're torquey little cars, and get great mileage on the highway. I was averaging around 34mpg on roadtrips with mine, and around 27ish in town. The R is averaging around 24 in town and just about 31 on the highway.

TBH though, if you wait it out a few more months til Dec/Jan/Feb, you can grab a leftover 2018 model, that way, you get the 7yr warranty. Dealers near me regularly take $3-7k off previous model year GTIs when the new ones are getting ready to hit the lots.

Thanks man! And yes, I definitely need to travel down that way again sometime soon.

rockstar143

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I watched a video on awd vs 4wd systems last night in bed

SamDoe1

Buy my S2000, the R will feel like a rocket ship every time you get in it.

Nerd alert.

rockstar143

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It was an Engineering Explained video!
Okay, fun fact...after the grueling 2 year degree in business I tried to jump over to Mech Eng degree at FIU but the counselor said I'd basically have to start college over.
I was like, ok sounds like I'm getting a Business Degree then.

TacoBello

rockstar143

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In hindsight, another 2 years would have been pretty easy peasy lemon squeezy before having a kid.
Hindsight really is 20/20

JS + XES

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Yeah! He got his with 600 miles and CPO from a Honda dealership. He put less than 6k miles on it and has that crazy $3000 ceramic coat and clear bra package on it too. I did his interior so it is in a good shape. He has a Cayman GTS and R32 GTR too. He just gets bored of cars very fast. I seriously wish it wasn't red. I'm okay with Blue or Grey and first choice is Championship White. Will think about this!

Yeah I know GTi isn't really a track car or anything but I definitely want the trim with the LSD. All I want from GTi is the LSD, DSG and LED Headlights. hahaha

The new VW cars come with 7 year warranty??

SamDoe1

If you want those things, you need at least the GTI SE.

The new VW's come with a 6y/72k warranty. Which is why I bought a new one lol.

civicdrivr

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Yeah I mistyped - 6yr 72k mile warranty.

It was the main reason I went with a 2018 as well. But then I threw that all away with the tune

TacoBello

p.diddy

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back from the dead lol. good to see one of OG CL guys still around.

SamDoe1

Depending on how much it's worth it to you.

The custom color is a $2500 option to begin with so you're already looking at more money before even negotiating off MSRP. I'd probably pay MSRP for a green one but that's just me.

civicdrivr

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To me, depending on the color, yes. And it's dependent on your relationship with your dealer when it comes to haggling.

Had I known they were bringing the custom color option to the US for the 2019s, I would've held on to my lease until it expired (which was Dec 11 2018, then either drive the FRS for a few months or extend the lease on the GTI three months). But hindsight is 20-20. I'm still considering the trade, but it would have to be a favorable deal in order for me to pull the trigger. You're looking at about $44k for a DSG car with a Spektrum color, before taxes. Trade in on my car is around $34k right now. Private party is around $36-37k.. That's a pretty big hit for me to absorb when I have a bunch of house projects I want to tackle.

Being an adult sucks

00TL-P3.2

A 2018+ SE or higher, 2017 & older were still HID, IIRC.

rockstar143

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Lord have mercy...
45K still seems like a ton of money!

civicdrivr

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Good catch, that is correct. Only the 2018 SE and Autobahn GTI has LED headlights. The HIDs in the 2017s were not bad at all though - I had them on mine.

It is. Which is another reason I haven't done it yet Luckily mine 6MT was still in the 30s, but it was still the most I've ever spent on a car, and I was sweating bullets going into it.

rockstar143

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That's how I felt about the Caddy...
and even in selling it...I basically turned it into two other used cars.
I have a practical side that freaks when something is above XYZ dollar amount.

JS + XES

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I should have said HID headlight, not LED. haha I just despise the base halogen light. That thing does not belong in a GTi line.

I don't think 7 years warranty is worth it for me. I will likely tune it as soon as I get it. bahahaha 17 Sport trim gets me all I want.

Aman

Now there's a name I haven't seen in a while... . By the looks of ig you seem to be doing well! Glad to see you over here.

What are you doing with the FR-S these days? I thought you were talking about selling it a while back.

Costco

^what Aguy said

You and SWEIDIT-hyung were a big part in getting me to get my BRZ.

I always knew I liked the 86 when I saw it in concept photos. But following your threads pushed me to go and test drive one.

I haven't pulled the bumper off for anything, afraid of the tabs getting deformed and having the dreaded bumper gap.

Congrats on the new car! Good to hear about the shifter post-mods.

R-zine thoon. Who's next to get one?

civicdrivr

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@Aman The FR-S is currently sitting on jackstands in the garage. I've got the stock suspension back in - the coilovers, sway bars, LCAs, and StopTech BBK was sold to @MEKO this past summer. I still need to swap the header, over pipe and mid pipe back to stock, then pull the short shifter, then the car can go back on the ground and I can pull the interior trim, radio, seats, headlights and taillights. I had sold the driveshaft and diff (with 4.56 gears) to a buddy a while ago. I'll be taking some time off later this month to focus on that, so I can sell the car before the end of the year. I'd love to get the CRV and the R in the garage before the first snow storm.

And I love the chassis of the 86 - but the engine is, for lack of a better word, trash. And with all of the issues I had with it, it was really the low point of my obsession with cars, and it took a while to get back into them (which is also why I stayed away from forums for so long). The GTI started to pull me back in a bit, and the R made me realize how much I missed actually being passionate about cars. I haven't gotten that feeling from the FR-S since I first bought it. Anytime I do drive it, I just get more and more annoyed with it.

ttribe

Perhaps if you had just used some tire shine, you would have liked it more...

TacoBello

TylerT

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I've never been impressed with any Subaru Boxer engine in regards to reliability or durability especially when you throw forced induction at it. Tuned or not.

TacoBello

JS + XES

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Did you have the early build first model year one? The first 13 MY FRSs were literally trash with issues after issues. My BRZ was late build 13 and didn't have a single issue after 14 track days and hundreds of canyon drives. I miss it so much. Gonna get a used one when we upgrade to a house with garage and make it a track duty car.

civicdrivr

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I love the way the car looks and the handling characteristics. It's the lackluster engine that kills it for me. There are serious flaws with it's design, one of which Subaru has finally began recalling:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jensen/.../#44fbd3153d58

And then there are the oiling issues that these engines face...I thought about an engine swap, but it's just not worth it. I would rather spend the cash on an already well sorted from the factory Cayman or 911.

civicdrivr

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I forget the build date, but yes, I took delivery in May of 2012. They really didn't address some of the design flaws in the cylinder heads until the 2014MY. The sheer amount of failures in the 2013 models is astounding - and Subaru and Toyota haven't done a damn thing about it up until recently.

JS + XES

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Wow you really had like one of the first ones hahahaha Yeah it's unfortunate that they took 5 years to start recalling those POS engine issues the early build ones had. Sorry to hear man. I had a fantastic memory and taught me so much in terms of high performance track driving. I want to have another with flex fuel kit and upgrade to Greddy turbo later down the road. These cars are so cheap used.

CLtotheTL32

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When are we getting Sonny's?

oonowindoo

I think everyone here loved the car - the characteristic of the car.... but i dont recall ever seeing anyone saying its got a good engine...

rockstar143

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I've always heard that it's a great car that's well priced that makes you work for it.

Costco

Yeah, I'm always skeptical of the first model year of a new car. Especially with a completely new engine and everything. Mine is a 2014.

Even something like the J-series, which has been around forever has issues in 3.7L configuration (4G 6MT)

I love the chassis too, yes the engine is lacking. Met a guy who swapped in a 3.0L Synergy V8 in his BRZ. Rated at 500 hp(?), can keep up with a 997 Turbo on the track.

civicdrivr

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The flex fuel kit and header makes a big difference - especially paired with a higher final drive. With those three mods, the car was more useful in traffic. It sounded like shit though

Soon! Casey and I need to make a trip down to Charlotte soon - maybe in early December.

That's a $50k engine...

e30cabrio

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Nice Morgan. Looks like life is treating you well.

JS + XES

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Yeah, that puts the car at 200whp with fatter curve which is obviously much better than stock hahaha The car needs EL headers. UEL with that subie rumble I hate it hahaha

I know that guy. Hes the leader of Norcal 86CUP! Balling out of control haha

Flipster23

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